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Quote from: deslok on October 15, 2013, 09:51:07 AM

*yawn*
X Kw in any room is possible with proper wiring, upgrading your breakers at the panel won't let you run 8kw from those miners all on one line however. lets work it backwards from your existing setup
you have 8kw worth of mining equipment, you need ~67AMPS available to you, without having one of these to check it's inrush current i'm going to say you actually need 80 insted. if your house is wired with 12gauge wire(as opposed to 14, how cheap was your electrician) you could use 4 20 amp breakers. Assuming your electrican used 15 amp outlets you'll need to replace them as well, then it's just 3/line(so 2 lines per outlet)

or as mentioned instead of rewiring a room and running 80/200 amps residential get them hosted

Not if you run at 240, see my post above.

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Since you are asking this question, I suggest asking a electrician to check your house for you.

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Quote from: bobsag3 on October 15, 2013, 06:19:07 PM

Quote from: deslok on October 15, 2013, 09:51:07 AM

*yawn*
X Kw in any room is possible with proper wiring, upgrading your breakers at the panel won't let you run 8kw from those miners all on one line however. lets work it backwards from your existing setup
you have 8kw worth of mining equipment, you need ~67AMPS available to you, without having one of these to check it's inrush current i'm going to say you actually need 80 insted. if your house is wired with 12gauge wire(as opposed to 14, how cheap was your electrician) you could use 4 20 amp breakers. Assuming your electrican used 15 amp outlets you'll need to replace them as well, then it's just 3/line(so 2 lines per outlet)

or as mentioned instead of rewiring a room and running 80/200 amps residential get them hosted

The cost of the electrician alone, atleast based on local numbers here, would be greater than 2 months of hosting for them.

The cost decision is up to him, myself? I'd do the wiring(as opposed to an electrician), but I know the difference between 12 and 14 gauge wire but considering what copper wire costs on it's own some days(yay shitty economy and commodities market) plus the cost of electricity and cooling(yes you'd probably want a window AC unit to cool that room so add another line just for that) hosting does certainly look attractive

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Quote from: deslok on October 15, 2013, 09:51:07 AM

*yawn*
X Kw in any room is possible with proper wiring, upgrading your breakers at the panel won't let you run 8kw from those miners all on one line however. lets work it backwards from your existing setup
you have 8kw worth of mining equipment, you need ~67AMPS available to you, without having one of these to check it's inrush current i'm going to say you actually need 80 insted. if your house is wired with 12gauge wire(as opposed to 14, how cheap was your electrician) you could use 4 20 amp breakers. Assuming your electrican used 15 amp outlets you'll need to replace them as well, then it's just 3/line(so 2 lines per outlet)

or as mentioned instead of rewiring a room and running 80/200 amps residential get them hosted

The cost of the electrician alone, atleast based on local numbers here, would be greater than 2 months of hosting for them.

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*yawn*
X Kw in any room is possible with proper wiring, upgrading your breakers at the panel won't let you run 8kw from those miners all on one line however. lets work it backwards from your existing setup
you have 8kw worth of mining equipment, you need ~67AMPS available to you, without having one of these to check it's inrush current i'm going to say you actually need 80 insted. if your house is wired with 12gauge wire(as opposed to 14, how cheap was your electrician) you could use 4 20 amp breakers. Assuming your electrican used 15 amp outlets you'll need to replace them as well, then it's just 3/line(so 2 lines per outlet)

or as mentioned instead of rewiring a room and running 80/200 amps residential get them hosted

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Quote from: crudpuppy on October 12, 2013, 10:27:34 PM

Wow this was all informative and also humbling for 1 the amount of combined knowledge on these forums and 2 that a guy that seems to only have 1 room in a house can afford that many asics and I can't...lol.

If you want to see raw mathematical knowlege check out, read and try to follow this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nsa-and-ecc-289795

It is one of my favorites of all time and really does show the level of crypto knowlege that we have here in the Bitcoin community.

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Wow this was all informative and also humbling for 1 the amount of combined knowledge on these forums and 2 that a guy that seems to only have 1 room in a house can afford that many asics and I can't...lol.

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Be sure to know what your doing, you don't wanna burn something.

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You need to map out the breakers in the house.

1. Go to circuit breaker box, turn ALL the breakers off except the main one.
2. Number the breakers. One two three four etc.
3. Turn on ONE breaker. Go through the entire house with a small light or something, plug it into every outlet, and see which outlets have power. Leave all light switches on so you can see which lights are on which breakers.
4. Write on the wall cover plates of each power outlet which breaker number feeds them.
5. Repeat until every breaker is mapped out.
6. Then, AND ONLY THEN will you be able to split the load properly and safely.

If you don't do this, YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

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Quote from: BurtW on October 10, 2013, 06:40:32 AM

Quote from: fattypig on October 09, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

It all depends on the socket wire diameter and the ampere of it. A heavy duty socket can go up to 10kwh.

Like fingernails on a chalkboard to an EE.

"the ampere of it" Arrrggghhhhhhh! Ouch.

kWh = units of energy

kW = units of power

It's a disposable socket. Change after every 10 kWh.

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Quote from: surebet on October 09, 2013, 10:07:04 PM

Quote from: fattypig on October 09, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

Quote from: joshv06 on October 07, 2013, 08:57:25 PM

Hey guys,

I am a total electricity noob. I know a bit, but could use some help.

I bought 12 HashFast Babyjets, that use 350 Watts each. (4.2Kw/hr total)

I wanted to know if it was possible to pull that much electricity out of 2 wall outlets (2 with 2 ports each).

Right now, the breaker trips at ~1400 Watts. (15A breaker)

I have 3 locations I can host these at, but would prefer them to be all in my room.

I know I am going to have to upgrade the breaker (calling electrician tomorrow), but is this possible? Is there a limit?
Would anything have to be done to the wiring?
Would this cause any problems throughout the house?

Thanks!

It all depends on the socket wire diameter and the ampere of it. A heavy duty socket can go up to 10kwh.

The wiring behind the socket is massively more important.

I am actually referring to that. The wiring diameter. Calculator here http://www.csgnetwork.com/wiresizecalc.html

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Quote from: fattypig on October 09, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

It all depends on the socket wire diameter and the ampere of it. A heavy duty socket can go up to 10kwh.

Like fingernails on a chalkboard to an EE.

"the ampere of it" Arrrggghhhhhhh! Ouch.

kWh = units of energy

kW = units of power

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If you're thinking of having an electrician come in, have them install a 220V line with a 30A breaker. That should handle the majority of your load, and be a little more efficient at the same time.

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Quote from: fattypig on October 09, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

Quote from: joshv06 on October 07, 2013, 08:57:25 PM

Hey guys,

I am a total electricity noob. I know a bit, but could use some help.

I bought 12 HashFast Babyjets, that use 350 Watts each. (4.2Kw/hr total)

I wanted to know if it was possible to pull that much electricity out of 2 wall outlets (2 with 2 ports each).

Right now, the breaker trips at ~1400 Watts. (15A breaker)

I have 3 locations I can host these at, but would prefer them to be all in my room.

I know I am going to have to upgrade the breaker (calling electrician tomorrow), but is this possible? Is there a limit?
Would anything have to be done to the wiring?
Would this cause any problems throughout the house?

Thanks!

It all depends on the socket wire diameter and the ampere of it. A heavy duty socket can go up to 10kwh.

The wiring behind the socket is massively more important.

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Quote from: joshv06 on October 07, 2013, 08:57:25 PM

Hey guys,

I am a total electricity noob. I know a bit, but could use some help.

I bought 12 HashFast Babyjets, that use 350 Watts each. (4.2Kw/hr total)

I wanted to know if it was possible to pull that much electricity out of 2 wall outlets (2 with 2 ports each).

Right now, the breaker trips at ~1400 Watts. (15A breaker)

I have 3 locations I can host these at, but would prefer them to be all in my room.

I know I am going to have to upgrade the breaker (calling electrician tomorrow), but is this possible? Is there a limit?
Would anything have to be done to the wiring?
Would this cause any problems throughout the house?

Thanks!

It all depends on the socket wire diameter and the ampere of it. A heavy duty socket can go up to 10kwh.

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Jeesh, I had enough problems with heat running 4xGPUs. Small, timber frame, very well insulated house. The 4 GPUs were raising the temp of the back bedroom by 5C compared to the rest of the house. The noise was shocking too, and the GPUs were in quiet cases (Fractal Design Define XL).

Even in the winter, that room had the radiator turned off and the window open, and it was still too warm.

Those things would be best run in a garage or a shed in the garden. Not in your house.

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Quote from: joshv06 on October 07, 2013, 08:57:25 PM

I bought 12 HashFast Babyjets, that use 350 Watts each. (4.2Kw/hr total)

Do you need 4.2 kW or 8 kW like it says in the title?

4.2 kW is easy, that's less than an electric oven or an air conditioner. You just need to get an electrician to run 240V @ 40 A. You can do 50A if you want 8 kW.

If you have anything else electric (dryer, oven, AC) you'll probably need 200A service.

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Quote from: joshv06 on October 07, 2013, 11:07:38 PM

Can someone tell me the the phrase to search to find places to host physical rigs? I forgot what it was called.

I can help you out with hosting, check the link in my sig.

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Can someone tell me the the phrase to search to find places to host physical rigs? I forgot what it was called.

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Yeah my 4x 7970s were water cooled. Loved it. Just low speed fans.

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