Topic: 800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight - page 2. (Read 711 times)

Do you have any original thoughts of your own, or do you just have to wait for me to have one so you can repeat it back to me as if it was clever? Good for you, I am sure you don't use any fossil fuels as you preach to the rest of the world right? Riiiiiight... You probably drive a Hummer with one of those "COEXIST" bumper stickers on it.

No one said that captain strawman.  I simply pointed out the fact that california electricity wasn't coming from coal.   

The discussion wasn't even about cars but if you're interested in my position, here . it is..  The greenest trip is one taken on foot, then bike, and mass transit if those aren't appropriate.   I think personal vehicle ownership is too resource intense no matter how "green" your car is. 

I was being a smart-ass.  Using a DIESEL generator to recharge the "oh no, fossil fuels are bad" eco-friendly car

I am not saying they don't have advantages, but they are actually LESS environmentally friendly than a classic fossil fuel based vehicle.

But they can recharge them with a diesel generator in a pinch

Yes, lets all pretend the massive amounts of resources required to mine all those rare Earth materials for the batteries are not expended, not to mention that electric cars are less efficient.

Thought fossil fuels were verboten to those folks

No coal in California.  Natural gas though which is still bad but not nearly as bad as coal.

I live in the suburbs and power outages happen from time to time especially during big storms, but we can have solar panels, generators and whatever we like. The power company policy is that everything between the power station and your meter belongs to them and whatever is on the other side of the meter is up to you. You can even feed power into the grid if you like as long as you don't damage anything. Many people run solar panels in the summer that make the meter go backwards
I hope this gets resolved for good. They should at least let you generate your own electricity if they can't supply it.

I have seen some interesting theories about this situation floating about the interwebs. People  have long suspected that many of these fires were cased by or exacerbated by arson. In theory, the poorly maintained power lines could be used as cover for the arson and excused away that way. In a power outage though, how do you explain the cause of the fires? The speculation is this power outage was intended to demonstrate that it is in fact arson and not the power lines causing most if not all of these fires.

Very green of them.  With the Lithium pit mines, and recharging those batteries with juice from coal burning power plants.

I’m guessing we’ll be seeing a wave of Tesla Powerwall advertisements in California in the near future.

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/did-not-go-well-pges-rolling-blackout-sparked-chaos-bay-area

Not bad, a better view to watch the stars and smoke some pot under the moonlight. Maybe do a candlelit collective meditation, that would be really cool.

Left ideology and corruption are synonymous.That's exactly the point of this entire situation. Left wingers use poor people, the downtrodden and racism to further their controls on public tax money. Which they then use to further their power and in turn allows them greater control of the public tax revenue purses.

About time that somebody admits that they like a million Californians losing power!

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It's official. But with all the 3rd world trouble in Sacrament, San Francisco, LA, and San Diego, it's surprising that it took this long to be official. Listen to the audio, about 20 minutes.


California Officially Slips Into 3rd World Status

I don't really like the unwarranted attack on leftist ideologies here, what happened to Venezuela was a result of a corrupt regime, not what ideology this regime theoretically followed

You are completely disingenuous in your posts and intentionally misleading people.  You know by now that I do not support these policies or advocate for anything like USSR/China/North Korea.  You know by now that I am on the opposite end of the spectrum ideologically from these big government, authoritarian countries yet you continue to say I advocate for their policies.  Even if you think that is what communism is, then any honest person would stop calling me a communist and just acknowledge that I have the wrong definition but not you, you want to use the semantic argument to attribute an ideology to me which I am clearly against.  

Back to topic...How many seats do communists hold in California?  Is the governor communist?  How many communist party members hold mayor offices or make up town councils?

California is in the late stages of capitalism just like the rest of the USA.  This thread is about PG&E, a PRIVATELY OWNED utility.  Private ownership is literally capitalism yet somehow you think its socialism when private owners decide to chase profits at the expense of the people.  

Corporations use their capital to drive profits in every way possible.  This includes buying government legislations an regulating their competition out of business.  This always happens in capitalism as long as you have privately funded campaigns. PG&E has a heavy presence is Sacramento.  

Since you've already checked how many of California's politicians are socialist, now go back and follow the money.  How many of California's politicians have accepted corporate donations?  How many have gone from the private sector to the public sector and back to the private sector?

The revolving door and corporate lobbying in government is undeniably a function of capitalism no matter how much you scream government regulation is socialism.

Socialism would be community/worker created regulations.

 Communism is the absence of both state and market forces.  California is literally the opposite where everything is being dictated by very strong market force as well as very strong state forces.  

This is the first time I've heard power having to be shut off outside of a hurricane threat. And freakin 5 days! That's ridiculously long. Is California as dry as a tinder?


My country had power outages in the early 90s (more like supply can't keep up with demand) and experienced using generators and yes can't keep them running for that long. We only used them for a few hours at night for light and then turn them off.

Let's see how Californians would cope with this. Even my 3rd world bum haven't experienced 5-day blackouts.

Kalifornia appears to be the living example of the latest edition of " Communism/Socialism ( same thing) For Dummies". Thankfully we have this dynamic, real time example in our midst, to give living proof of how these places consume themselves with toxic ineptitude on all levels.