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Quote from: 8bethub on July 02, 2022, 04:21:00 PM

Website is not the same, intention was definitely not to copy. Changed everything that was needed. But you keep talking about my clients's funds buddy, go get your own hobby or platfrom rather than accussing me of something you have no clue about. We had people winning already, we got no problems or people coming here to complain we did not pay up. We pay, simply because of those problems that you have and keep raising that does not make us thiefs or scammers and you keep raising the same point. We got it, we changed everything needed, that does not mean we are terrible people. Have a good day.

The point is you stole Bustadice's source code, and it's not something anyone should take lightly, especially if you are going to be the custodian of their funds. The practice is mostly done by scammers here because they have no long term goals.

I am not even falsely accusing you because the owners have already confirmed that you stole their source code. Instead of telling me to find a hobby, maybe it's you who needs it more.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 02, 2022, 04:16:54 PM

Quote from: rakeslash on July 02, 2022, 01:53:45 PM

not everyone see a point in purchasing something if they are not trying to do the same website

I know your account is part of 8bethub, but what's the point of copying another site's source code if the intention was never to try to do the same website?

If you can still the source code without permission, then what else are you not cable of doing to clients' funds?

Website is not the same, intention was definitely not to copy. Changed everything that was needed. But you keep talking about my clients's funds buddy, go get your own hobby or platfrom rather than accussing me of something you have no clue about. We had people winning already, we got no problems or people coming here to complain we did not pay up. We pay, simply because of those problems that you have and keep raising that does not make us thiefs or scammers and you keep raising the same point. We got it, we changed everything needed, that does not mean we are terrible people. Have a good day.

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Quote from: rakeslash on July 02, 2022, 01:53:45 PM

not everyone see a point in purchasing something if they are not trying to do the same website

I know your account is part of 8bethub, but what's the point of copying another site's source code if the intention was never to try to do the same website?

If you can steal the source code without permission, then what else are you not cable of doing to clients' funds?

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 08:55:01 PM

Got some copper too, so let's hope that we will win your trust and loyalty over the coming years with our platform!

Copper membership has not impact on one's trust ratings in this forum.

You really started off on a bad note. Why didn't you just purchase the source code and make a clean and transparent launch here?
I do lots of reputable and successful casinos that purchased their previous versions of source code like Roobet, Bitsler, nanogames etc

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 08:55:01 PM

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Got some copper too, so let's hope that we will win your trust and loyalty over the coming years with our platform!

In the manual on your site there is a mention of some independent administrator, if this is really the case, then it would be nice to indicate the document of the conclusion of such a check, besides, apparently 8betshub was indicated in the name of the project whose verification was carried out for some reason.

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Yesterday when I tried to join this thread, there was no red flag for the OP yet, and now I see it. It would probably be nice and ideally, the OP would make the authenticity of the site the only thing that differentiates this casino from other casinos. When you copy and do things that should be avoided, you end up doing them again and again. I don't really have a broad understanding of the issues associated with copying code that you may find inconvenient. I definitely recommend authenticity where you can claim it on behalf of your casino.

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 07:31:32 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on June 27, 2022, 07:13:15 PM

Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 06:45:50 PM

However, the website interface is fully different, and it was definitely not lazy, therefore such accussations should remain unspoken or I shall report to the mod, because our IT expert and designer did work hard. Inspired yes, but the phrase "next generation dice" applies to our website too, because in fact, that is what it is.

What i said is the UI is different only different I commend your UI dev for not copying the whole bustadice looks. But look at those content, your features:

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Instant deposits
Don't like waiting? Have your eligible deposit credited immediately for a small fee.

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Enhanced privacy
We use a sophisticated coin selection algorithm tailored to 8bethub when handling payments in order to offer our players and investors industry-leading privacy. Not everyone needs to know you're gambling!

Since it also significantly lowers our transaction costs, we are able to pass those savings onto you, making our withdrawal fees some of the lowest around!

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!

And many more
https://archive.is/btGQ4

Just like that. Feel free to report my post to moderator, and it will bounce to you even more.
I understand you may have the same unique idea from bustadice which was built too many years already but tried not to copy the whole content written on their website make your own so it will not look like copied — this is a friendly advice.

Buddy you show a very outdated version that we had for starter whilst the IT expert was coding for us, it was changed before we released or promoted anywhere! All that text is being changed, and was changed anyway but now upon request we are talking all feedback in and doing all changes. Of course we were inspired, but we did by no means take us of their name, their platform in our own good to steal players or give anyone a bad name. We are improving by the hour and taking all information in, we need some patience and understanding too.

Got some copper too, so let's hope that we will win your trust and loyalty over the coming years with our platform!

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 07:31:32 PM

Buddy you show a very outdated version that we had for starter whilst the IT expert was coding for us, it was changed before we released or promoted anywhere! All that text is being changed, and was changed anyway but now upon request we are talking all feedback in and doing all changes. Of course we were inspired, but we did by no means take us of their name, their platform in our own good to steal players or give anyone a bad name. We are improving by the hour and taking all information in, we need some patience and understanding too.

Those quoted phrase were from the current website's look/content.

Well, that's good. That's what all matters. Although the site's reputation were tinted already expect it wont disappear for a matter of time as other members will see this site/thread soon.
But it's a good move to change what you need to change. Well, good luck.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 27, 2022, 07:13:15 PM

Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 06:45:50 PM

However, the website interface is fully different, and it was definitely not lazy, therefore such accussations should remain unspoken or I shall report to the mod, because our IT expert and designer did work hard. Inspired yes, but the phrase "next generation dice" applies to our website too, because in fact, that is what it is.

What i said is the UI is different only different I commend your UI dev for not copying the whole bustadice looks. But look at those content, your features:

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Instant deposits
Don't like waiting? Have your eligible deposit credited immediately for a small fee.

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Enhanced privacy
We use a sophisticated coin selection algorithm tailored to 8bethub when handling payments in order to offer our players and investors industry-leading privacy. Not everyone needs to know you're gambling!

Since it also significantly lowers our transaction costs, we are able to pass those savings onto you, making our withdrawal fees some of the lowest around!

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!

And many more
https://archive.is/btGQ4

Just like that. Feel free to report my post to moderator, and it will bounce to you even more.
I understand you may have the same unique idea from bustadice which was built too many years already but tried not to copy the whole content written on their website make your own so it will not look like copied — this is a friendly advice.

Buddy you show a very outdated version that we had for starter whilst the IT expert was coding for us, it was changed before we released or promoted anywhere! All that text is being changed, and was changed anyway but now upon request we are talking all feedback in and doing all changes. Of course we were inspired, but we did by no means take us of their name, their platform in our own good to steal players or give anyone a bad name. We are improving by the hour and taking all information in, we need some patience and understanding too.

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Maybe i don't get something but i really don't understand what is the issue here. New website opens, pays everyone , offers a good deal and overall doesn't seem to be doing anything shady. It is undeniable that they have being inspired or however you would like to say it, by already existing projects. I don't see them claiming to be that project, stealing their players, scamming or doing anything to hurt that project. Everything in this world has already being created so do we not start any business now, to me it seems like the issue is in Bustabit not getting their money for selling their license and people jsut being overly judgemental and righteous. Look around you there is a million "inspired projects" does it make them bad?

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 06:45:50 PM

However, the website interface is fully different, and it was definitely not lazy, therefore such accussations should remain unspoken or I shall report to the mod, because our IT expert and designer did work hard. Inspired yes, but the phrase "next generation dice" applies to our website too, because in fact, that is what it is.

What i said is the UI is different only different I commend your UI dev for not copying the whole bustadice looks. But look at those content, your features:

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Instant deposits
Don't like waiting? Have your eligible deposit credited immediately for a small fee.

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Enhanced privacy
We use a sophisticated coin selection algorithm tailored to 8bethub when handling payments in order to offer our players and investors industry-leading privacy. Not everyone needs to know you're gambling!

Since it also significantly lowers our transaction costs, we are able to pass those savings onto you, making our withdrawal fees some of the lowest around!

Quote from: https://8bethub.com/

Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!Advanced provable fairness system
8betHub improved the industry-standard provably fair system to provide additional guarantees to players, investors, and the house itself:

For players: In the event of a dispute with the casino it's no longer your word against theirs. 8bethub's auditor independently verifies all rolls and has your back.
Assuming you trust the auditor to be independent of 8bethub, you can be sure all bets were made without knowledge of the outcome.
The house gains confidence that all wins are legitimate. Stressful withdrawal delays due to security reviews become a thing of the past!

And many more
https://archive.is/btGQ4

Just like that. Feel free to report my post to moderator, and it will bounce to you even more.
I understand you may have the same unique idea from bustadice which was built too many years already but tried not to copy the whole content written on their website make your own so it will not look like copied — this is a friendly advice.

8bethub

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 27, 2022, 06:39:42 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on June 27, 2022, 05:43:21 PM

i believe, one way to resolve this situation is to have your own content in terms of FAQ, ToS and others. you can have your reference like bustadice but don't copy word for word. maybe, in your own words, create content for your site. we know that no one starts from scratch, they definitely got their content from somewhere, but you need to avoid the plagiarism issue and make your own. if 8bethub is serious of staying long in this field, you will do the right thing to avoid issues.

But it seems like it's not about the plagiarising of the those content pages but also the scripts of bustadice without their permission. Well, even the content of their features/text/paragraphs even the phrase "Next generation dice" is copied lolcrime. It looks like it was lazy copied almost 90%, just the UI was different. And its a serious crime.

Everything mentioned above was changed, all T&C and FAQs modified completely. The scripts supported bustadice therefore we got in contact with them not to fully verify it, them being open source helped. However, the website interface is fully different, and it was definitely not lazy, therefore such accussations should remain unspoken or I shall report to the mod, because our IT expert and designer did work hard. Inspired yes, but the phrase "next generation dice" applies to our website too, because in fact, that is what it is.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on June 27, 2022, 05:43:21 PM

i believe, one way to resolve this situation is to have your own content in terms of FAQ, ToS and others. you can have your reference like bustadice but don't copy word for word. maybe, in your own words, create content for your site. we know that no one starts from scratch, they definitely got their content from somewhere, but you need to avoid the plagiarism issue and make your own. if 8bethub is serious of staying long in this field, you will do the right thing to avoid issues.

But it seems like it's not about the plagiarising of the those content pages but also the scripts of bustadice without their permission. Well, even the content of their features/text/paragraphs even the phrase "Next generation dice" is copied lol. It looks like it was lazy copied almost 90%, just the UI was different. And its a serious crime.

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Quote from: 8bethub on June 27, 2022, 08:49:33 AM

Quote from: devans on June 27, 2022, 05:28:55 AM

8bethub.com is plagiarizing large parts of bustadice including its landing page, its FAQ section, its terms of service and even its code (bustadice's original script editor documentation and sample scripts vs the plagiarized copy, bustadice's original verifier code vs the plagiarized copy).

I strongly recommend that players steer clear of shady fly-by-night casinos like this and stick with reputable operators. If a casino is willing to steal from its competitors it's reasonable to assume that it's willing to steal from its players as well.

I have contacted you directly. We do not wish to have a bad relation with anyone and I think i included everything in the message sent, but we surely will not steal or attempt to steal from any of our players, and the current winners may vouch for that as we already payed out quite a bit!

i believe, one way to resolve this situation is to have your own content in terms of FAQ, ToS and others. you can have your reference like bustadice but don't copy word for word. maybe, in your own words, create content for your site. we know that no one starts from scratch, they definitely got their content from somewhere, but you need to avoid the plagiarism issue and make your own. if 8bethub is serious of staying long in this field, you will do the right thing to avoid issues.

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Quote from: devans on June 27, 2022, 05:28:55 AM

8bethub.com is plagiarizing large parts of bustadice including its landing page, its FAQ section, its terms of service and even its code (bustadice's original script editor documentation and sample scripts vs the plagiarized copy, bustadice's original verifier code vs the plagiarized copy).

I strongly recommend that players steer clear of shady fly-by-night casinos like this and stick with reputable operators. If a casino is willing to steal from its competitors it's reasonable to assume that it's willing to steal from its players as well.

I have contacted you directly. We do not wish to have a bad relation with anyone and I think i included everything in the message sent, but we surely will not steal or attempt to steal from any of our players, and the current winners may vouch for that as we already payed out quite a bit!

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8bethub.com is plagiarizing large parts of bustadice including its landing page, its FAQ section, its terms of service and even its code (bustadice's original script editor documentation and sample scripts vs the plagiarized copy, bustadice's original verifier code vs the plagiarized copy).

I strongly recommend that players steer clear of shady fly-by-night casinos like this and stick with reputable operators. If a casino is willing to steal from its competitors it's reasonable to assume that it's willing to steal from its players as well.

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Copper membership doesn't increase trust or level of confidence here in the forum per se. It is just use to bypass the ranking system and immediately post the image. If what you are saying is true, It only means that trust here can be paid since sopper membership fee just cost a few satoshis. But the OP really needs so that he can already post an image for a more encouraging visual representation about 8bethub feature. Reading a pure text description in thread is pretty boring due to small text and a lot of technical terms which will be easy to express in graphical representation.

Maybe not but at least buying a copper membership can show us that they are serious about their business and follow our advice. But to gain more trust from us, they have to work hard by providing the latest updates about their casino site because after buying a copper membership, their work has not stopped. That's what they have to do if they want to promote on this forum and the @OP really needs to prove it to us. Hopefully @OP is serious about his work and continues to promote his site.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 26, 2022, 05:30:34 PM

Quote from: robelneo on June 26, 2022, 05:03:29 PM

Quote from: logfiles on June 26, 2022, 04:24:39 PM

Hey 8bethub, I still feel you need to thoroughly review your terms and conditions. They just seem to be copied from somewhere, perhaps from here and yet the two casinos are different.

Just copying and pasting terms of service with a few editions is a recipe for disaster

Look at this part for example
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The casino existed only from last month. How is that rule going to apply?

They should know better, with the many issues about KYC and TOS they should go through it, check double check they should have a very good proofreader, obviously, they don't have a good proofreader, this is clearly a copy-paste job, if not they should have a good explanation to this, a casino that copy-pastes their TOS are not really serious on their implementation.

Whenever you do launch a new site and tend to copy some terms and conditions from other site then they should really be that mindful nor being meticulous when it comes to certain copy-paste
errors which if the community would able to find out then it wont really be that appealing or something that will really be pleasing into their eyes.

And if it do leaved unfixed then it would surely be creating that kind of bad impression which is something not really good for the business itself.

We've seen lots of sites do share up or copy on the same terms and conditions area but making out some alteration at least to make it not really 100% copy pasted.

Yes, in all honesty we did have permission from the original creators as we got in touch with their IT support which helped us on some aspects of the site. However we were not told that other websites like the one mentioned has used the same one. Thank you for bringing that up to my attention. I have already drafted a full new T&C for the site and bonuses which will be uploaded shortly so this does not persist as a problem.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 26, 2022, 05:03:29 PM

Quote from: logfiles on June 26, 2022, 04:24:39 PM

Hey 8bethub, I still feel you need to thoroughly review your terms and conditions. They just seem to be copied from somewhere, perhaps from here and yet the two casinos are different.

Just copying and pasting terms of service with a few editions is a recipe for disaster

Look at this part for example
~

The casino existed only from last month. How is that rule going to apply?

They should know better, with the many issues about KYC and TOS they should go through it, check double check they should have a very good proofreader, obviously, they don't have a good proofreader, this is clearly a copy-paste job, if not they should have a good explanation to this, a casino that copy-pastes their TOS are not really serious on their implementation.

Whenever you do launch a new site and tend to copy some terms and conditions from other site then they should really be that mindful nor being meticulous when it comes to certain copy-paste
errors which if the community would able to find out then it wont really be that appealing or something that will really be pleasing into their eyes.

And if it do leaved unfixed then it would surely be creating that kind of bad impression which is something not really good for the business itself.

We've seen lots of sites do share up or copy on the same terms and conditions area but making out some alteration at least to make it not really 100% copy pasted.

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