[*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] - page 165.

8-bit-Party

legendary

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STEP 5
RESTART DEVELOPMENT

level 1

build dev team - architects, programmers, designers, testers, geeks, grumberls
launch testnet (cpuminer only PLEASE)
create build enviroment

This is one of most complex tasks so far. First we need people. Even if noone will sign up I will act as architect, programmer and tester. Most needed role ATM is tester.
Then I will setup testnet. Please don't use ASIC nor GPU. Get https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer. Once we finish testnet PoW it will no longer matters.
My everyday development enviroment is textmode Linux. I don't use QT wallets, I am happy with RPC calls - getinfo, getbalance, getnewaddres, sendtoaddress etc. Since most of you prefer Windows GUI wallets I have to setup enviroment allowing me to create such builds. Following options are available:

manually create build enviroments on each target platform
manually create cross-compilation build enviroments for each target platform
use GITIAN

I personally prefer gitian. Why? Read https://gitian.org/ It will require a bit more work with setup, however this how Bitcoin and top alts likes DASH are built. 8BIT aims to deliver long-term, reliable, mature product, not scam coin. So we should follow mature coins not scamcoins philosophy in every aspect including software building and distrubution.
Note: ATM my a bit old Mac is broken and I am not gonna invest to repair it nor buy another one. So we will need someone to create Mac builds. How many Mac users we have here now? Mac users, please reply.

8-bit-Party

legendary

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Yes, you can also download bootstrap what will speed up sync process
http://www.8-bit.party/#download

download boostrap.dat-20150628_91334.7z
uncompress it (7ZIP)
rename uncompressed file to bootstrap.dat
move bootstrap.dat to your data directory (where wallet.dat lives)

blooding_sorrow

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Quote from: 8-bit-Party on July 10, 2015, 01:22:18 PM

Try all of those

39.55.166.152:28348
58.160.130.189:18888
92.12.58.90:18888
94.23.213.47:10192
84.193.211.3:9999
101.165.90.37:18888
104.207.158.77:9998
123.243.223.20:18888
130.180.65.30:18888
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18888
151.224.69.76:9999

I open the 8bit.conf and inside file paste:

addnode=39.55.166.152:28348
addnode=58.160.130.189:18888
addnode=92.12.58.90:18888
addnode=94.23.213.47:10192
addnode=84.193.211.3:9999
addnode=101.165.90.37:18888
addnode=104.207.158.77:9998
addnode=123.243.223.20:18888
addnode=130.180.65.30:18888
addnode=146.0.32.101:18992
addnode=146.0.32.101:18992
addnode=146.0.32.101:18888
addnode=151.224.69.76:9999

Is it correct for synchronize and stake? Should it work?

8-bit-Party

legendary

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Thanks, any support is welcome. At first we will need testers. Are you able to build Windows QT binary?

pinemool

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since its begin I hold a bit of 8bit also I bought more today let me know if I can help you development - Java, C++, PHP, Python

tbh I forgot about this coin and now I found that's alive with active community

I can also setup an independent / secondary block explorer, host seednodes if you wish

that's great 8bit spirit is alive and kicking

8-bit-Party

legendary

Activity: 1036

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8b 16b DEMOSCENE FTW

Try all of those

39.55.166.152:28348
58.160.130.189:18888
92.12.58.90:18888
94.23.213.47:10192
84.193.211.3:9999
101.165.90.37:18888
104.207.158.77:9998
123.243.223.20:18888
130.180.65.30:18888
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18888
151.224.69.76:9999

blooding_sorrow

newbie

Activity: 37

Merit: 0

Guys I have big problem with my wallet (I both try version 2.0qt and 2.1qt)and it doesn't synchronize. I have no connection. Can someone send me working addnodes? Then I will try create 8bit.config file and paste working addnodes and start synchronize.

skidog

legendary

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Moving forward. Things are looking up...

8-bit-Party

legendary

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Brief summary of where we are to see what's next. We definetely need new thread with up-to-date ANN.

STEP 1
Increase community confidence

intro

All deadlines we give will be met.
Accept 8BIT donations only
Offer 8BIT donations only
Show, don't tell - as often as possible
Gather all folks interested in supporting 8BIT, haters may stay, haters may move on
Let community talk. Polls will decide
In demoscene we trust

STEP 2
RESTORE MISSING INFRASTRUCTURE

level 1
level complete

Buy a domain
Rent and configure servers
Set up anti-DDoS shield
Launch first, basic version of Block Explorer

level 2
level complete

create temporary website - backup of current coin state: links, downloads
create new github repository with current codebase as initial commit
create and publish blockchain boostrap - allow newcomers to run their masternodes faster

level 3
level complete

Rich List - how rich are owners of TOP 100 (do we need more? tell me) addresses?
Distribution - how total coin supply looks compared to top10, top20... top 100 addresses, funds frozen for masternodes, Bittrex exchange orderbook and top50 accounts?
Masternode Profitability Calculator - how much masternode operators earn, is it profitable to fund one, what is ROI here?

level 5 4

gaming faucet

STEP 3
SOCIAL MEDIA

level 1
progress: 50%

Twitter
Facebook

STEP 4
ADJUST COIN ECONOMY

level 1
level complete

brainstorm and collecting options for incoming vote

level 2
no formal level announce

voting

New level TBA today (UTC). No, not related to new thread on BCT.

soco

member

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Cryptsy.com now shows in my balances the 8bit I purchased and sent to myself some time ago. It did not "disappear." This is good.

I am hopeful for 8bit's future, and thankful for all who are participating in this community.

-soco

8-bit-Party

legendary

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Quote from: blackyblack on July 10, 2015, 03:12:41 AM

2. 8bit requires older version of secp256k1: git checkout 729badff148a00aebedce663e4ebb5a039170d9b

Note this is temporary step. I will update 8bit code to use latest version of secp256k1.

blackyblack

sr. member

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Building 8bit from source on Debian. Some notes:
1. 8bit depends on secp256k1: https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1.
2. 8bit requires older version of secp256k1: git checkout 729badff148a00aebedce663e4ebb5a039170d9b
3. sec256k1 requires autotools and libtool:
apt-get install autoconf
apt-get install libtool
4. miniupnp headers cannot be found. Set USE_UPNP:=- in makefile.unix
5. sha256 not found. Create directory for it: mkdir obj/crypto
6. leveldb not compiled. Looks like execute priviledge on build_detect_platform is not set:
cd leveldb
chmod +x build_detect_platform
./build_detect_platform build_config.mk ./
cd ..
make -f makefile.unix

8-bit-Party

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Quote from: niki25 on July 09, 2015, 03:45:33 PM

Staking is also essential for the network, as the blocks are generated by this.

I agree, that's why I consider solution that affects staking addresses as drawback.

niki25

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Quote from: 8-bit-Party on July 09, 2015, 12:35:58 PM

Yes, 3k for masternode is not a part of incoming fork, there was no proposal for it, we can't vote for it, it's just simulation for future.

How to efficiently lock masternode? For instance by creating kinda MN-PoS hybrid system, although hybrids are cool as long as they don't bring extra security problems that I see here. But I am open for suggestions.
I have been already talking about it, to soft-lock masternode we can increase required number of confirmation from 15 (~16 minutes) to higher value. If masternode operator will have to wait for few hours (or days) for it, (s)he will not cash it out two days later.
Other way would be increasing coin maturity time what would make masternode operator wait longer for profit and this way dumping profits would be naturally delayed. However, it would also affect PoS-minted coins.

Staking is also essential for the network, as the blocks are generated by this. Maybe in the middle, increasing the maturity a bit but not getting up to some days.
Otherwise increasing the required confirmations may be a good path to follow.

8-bit-Party

legendary

Activity: 1036

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Yes, 3k for masternode is not a part of incoming fork, there was no proposal for it, we can't vote for it, it's just simulation for future.

How to efficiently lock masternode? For instance by creating kinda MN-PoS hybrid system, although hybrids are cool as long as they don't bring extra security problems that I see here. But I am open for suggestions.
I have been already talking about it, to soft-lock masternode we can increase required number of confirmation from 15 (~16 minutes) to higher value. If masternode operator will have to wait for few hours (or days) for it, (s)he will not cash it out two days later.
Other way would be increasing coin maturity time what would make masternode operator wait longer for profit and this way dumping profits would be naturally delayed. However, it would also affect PoS-minted coins.

skidog

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Quote from: mastertrader777 on July 09, 2015, 11:25:48 AM

Hey guys,

I have read over what 8BitParty has posted in regards to Masternode Price Vs. ROI Terms.

This is why I proposed this:

Code:

| H |   888 |  0.8880 |  0.4840 |   39 |   0.23088000 |  16.60425824|  0.00431711|  53d | -  26.00 % |

It's right in the middle of the road, in comparison to the subject matter we seem to be getting stuck on.

3K per MasterNode is kinda insane.

888 8bit per masternode, with a masternode payout of .4840 is 53 day ROI.

Not too soon, not too late.

It would be cool, if there was a way that we could LOCK the coins into the Masternode placements.

It would create even more buy pressure, and prevent the sell pressure associated with the possibility of selling profits early.

Just my 2 cents,

MasterTrader777

This is what i voted for. I think 8bit party was just talking about the future...Good to see you around Mastertrader777.

mastertrader777

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Hey guys,

I have read over what 8BitParty has posted in regards to Masternode Price Vs. ROI Terms.

This is why I proposed this:

Code:

| H |   888 |  0.8880 |  0.4840 |   39 |   0.23088000 |  16.60425824|  0.00431711|  53d | -  26.00 % |

It's right in the middle of the road, in comparison to the subject matter we seem to be getting stuck on.

3K per MasterNode is kinda insane.

888 8bit per masternode, with a masternode payout of .4840 is 53 day ROI.

Not too soon, not too late.

It would be cool, if there was a way that we could LOCK the coins into the Masternode placements.

It would create even more buy pressure, and prevent the sell pressure associated with the possibility of selling profits early.

Just my 2 cents,

MasterTrader777

niki25

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Quote from: 8-bit-Party on July 09, 2015, 05:20:35 AM

It's always about speculation! Investors should be attracted when services will start because they believe IT WILL bump the price or because they believe others will follow such beliving. Not because services affect market price automatically.
That's why marketing and product development are different things. Sure they have same origin (product), they play in same team and they can't achieve success without each other. But their activities need to be run in parallel, otherwise either finished product will be useless since noone will wait for it as people will go elsewhere, or product will be never accepted because of too aggressive marketing, slow development and unmet expectations. Everything has to be balanced, each part should support other one without pointless looking and saying I am waiting for you. Many well-promising coins were fcked up this way. Many are going down. Good, fresh examples of still alive but ATL priced are AERO and BURST. First with great ideas, enormous expectations and lack of working product. Second, absolutely innovative technology and proven devs proficiency and lack of marketing.

3K is just an example, it's not even available in voting. Point to discuss for next-next hardfork.

It is not all about believing, if there is a product which people use, the userbase will grow. Also what people believe determines market price and so on.
Im with you, marketing is apart, there must be a product (service) to run marketing of it.
Everything must be balanced in order to achieve the success.

8-bit-Party

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It's always about speculation! Investors should be attracted when services will start because they believe IT WILL bump the price or because they believe others will follow such beliving. Not because services affect market price automatically.
That's why marketing and product development are different things. Sure they have same origin (product), they play in same team and they can't achieve success without each other. But their activities need to be run in parallel, otherwise either finished product will be useless since noone will wait for it as people will go elsewhere, or product will be never accepted because of too aggressive marketing, slow development and unmet expectations. Everything has to be balanced, each part should support other one without pointless looking and saying I am waiting for you. Many well-promising coins were fcked up this way. Many are going down. Good, fresh examples of still alive but ATL priced are AERO and BURST. First with great ideas, enormous expectations and lack of working product. Second, absolutely innovative technology and proven devs proficiency and lack of marketing.

3K is just an example, it's not even available in voting. Point to discuss for next-next hardfork.

niki25

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Investors should be attracted when services are delivered through mn, right now, without services, newcomers will just come to speculate, most of them, not all.
Other ones will stake, and some of them will be converted into mn.
By the way, i think 3k 8bit is really really high.

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