It depends on the amount you've won and the amount you will have to spend on the expenses of the case and everything. If you have won a significantly high amount and you know that only a small percentage of that will be the cost of doing a case and trying to prove that you are the winner then I guess it's obviously worth it because if you get the money at the end of the day, you will have your life changed if the amount is life-changing for you.
However, if the reward isn't high enough and you might even have to spend about 50% of the total reward in all these expenses then I guess it's not worth the running here and there and attending all the hearings and stuff because even if you manage to win the case, you won't be getting much out of it.
Topic: 9 Years Before He finally claim his lotto rewards - page 3. (Read 572 times)
If you are the winner.
It's always worth ~XD because he was the winner and won the battle case. People in US will think he winning small meanwhile on third country like PH is life changer because the life style are quite small comparing to them.
Shout out to lawyer who are helping him.
It's always worth ~XD because he was the winner and won the battle case. People in US will think he winning small meanwhile on third country like PH is life changer because the life style are quite small comparing to them.
Shout out to lawyer who are helping him.
Given the lengthy trial, it's possible that he incurred significant expenses on legal fees, especially since he's up against the PCSO, a government agency. The government might not have provided him with a public lawyer, which typically offers more affordable or free legal services. However, what's done is done, and it has ended with a huge victory which he can already enjoy his lottery winning.
If you are the winner.
It's always worth ~XD because he was the winner and won the battle case. People in US will think he winning small meanwhile on third country like PH is life changer because the life style are quite small comparing to them.
Shout out to lawyer who are helping him.
It's always worth ~XD because he was the winner and won the battle case. People in US will think he winning small meanwhile on third country like PH is life changer because the life style are quite small comparing to them.
Shout out to lawyer who are helping him.
9 years of wait is pretty long but what can I do? The only issue I see here is if I need to spend money. Imagine if I will also pay regularly just to continue the ball/case rolling, what will be left just in case I am still get lucky to get my winnings?
Maybe what you said there is true that he is only fighting for his rights, and the prize isn't really that important. The guy can be really frustrated or annoyed on how strict that lotto company was and he thinks on his own that he can be able to claim his winnings as some details on the ticket was still clear and can be used to authenticate the bets that was that was placed. There are always people who are like that.
Maybe what you said there is true that he is only fighting for his rights, and the prize isn't really that important. The guy can be really frustrated or annoyed on how strict that lotto company was and he thinks on his own that he can be able to claim his winnings as some details on the ticket was still clear and can be used to authenticate the bets that was that was placed. There are always people who are like that.
My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize
I'm sorry, but I'm going to write here without being aware of the whole subject...
I'm not sure if this case dragged on for so long because it was not possible to prove the authenticity of the winning ticket or if there really was a lack of will and effort to recognize the winning ticket by other means.
Here in my country the law is very clear: the winning ticket cannot have erasures, tears or any defect that prevents the recognition of all the registered bet information. This is enough to result in the loss of a case for anyone trying to take legal action against the Brazilian lottery.
Anyway... apart from this case of "merit", I see that this bettor was indeed very persistent and audacious in betting a lot of what he still had in the hope of being able to win this case.
I'm happy for him and I hope he can make up for every penny and lost time, because 9 years of waiting is a long time.
even though I almost never bet on this type of lottery bet, I understand your question a little and see the figure $217k is a large amount for me and if this amount is also considered a large amount by the winner there is no harm in waiting to be able to claim the $217 but In fact, I have other questions, such as if it really took 9 years, how could the case be resolved in such a long period of time and on the one hand, would not it cost a lot of money to pay lawyers and other agents to win the trial?
sometimes its a little strange, but the fact is that he was able to win the lottery, but this gives a little inspiration to lottery gamblers that actually it is possible to get big win in the lottery, but there are always problems if you get a big win.
sometimes its a little strange, but the fact is that he was able to win the lottery, but this gives a little inspiration to lottery gamblers that actually it is possible to get big win in the lottery, but there are always problems if you get a big win.
It's only natural that this person fights for his rights. Twelve million pesos is a large amount of money that he bet in the hope of winning and in the end he can win it and it may also be a once in a lifetime luck so he deserves to fight for it even if he has to wait for 9 years but at least his struggle It's not in vain that he can claim his prize happily. In my opinion, his sacrifice is worth the money he has earned so far.
if that happened to me, I would definitely do the same thing that person did even if I had to sell some property to go to court and ask for justice for the rights that are due.
if that happened to me, I would definitely do the same thing that person did even if I had to sell some property to go to court and ask for justice for the rights that are due.
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However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.
The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.
I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.
That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.
But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.
It appears that the PCSO is unwilling to assist the winner, despite him having all the necessary evidence to prove his win. While I understand that it's a substantial amount of money, the PCSO generates significant daily revenue from the lottery. It would be more than fair to award the rightful winner, not only as a matter of justice but also to inspire bettors who consistently place bets in the hopes of winning the jackpot prize one day.
Justice system in the Philippines is rubbish, if you are innocent and get jailed I think if the opposition is rich and hired a good lawyer then good luck you might end up suffering long long years of prison before proven innocent. Same with what had happened to the lottery winner though he accidentally altered the ticket but still 9 years is for me a very long wait though it is still worth the wait of course since the court finally recognized him as the lucky winner for that jackpot.
I am sure the lotto operators are aware that he won the game but they wanted to cheat him because of the mistake his daughter made. His winning could have been confirmed since it was just a part of the ticket that was erased. Justice delayed is indeed justice denied but at least this gambler got his reward. The Philippine legal system is even not too bad because the judgment favored the citizen. Nine years is a long time but this gambler will now enjoy his labour. $217,000 is a lot of money in the Philippines and I am sure he will still have a substantial amount after paying his bills that can make him live a good life for a greater part of his life if the win is well utilized. 
I'm sure he will value every cent of the prize because it is blood and sweat just to get it, and also this is a big lesson not to do anything with a winning ticket to avoid the same scenario.
Value is an understatement because over the 9 years he would have spent money close to the winning prize so except he goes after damages and expenses on the case against the lottery company, if he didn't succeed on that it means he only succeeded in making the headlines. However, he and more people have learnt their lessons on the reason to safeguard gambling tickets because you never know the ticket that will be declared winner. There is a native saying that you don't know the foetus that will be crown king, meaning every child is important. Likewise, every ticket is important.
Of course, in order for the trial to last for nine years, no matter how big or small, the man has to spend a certain amount of money to find a legal authority who can help him resolve this case, as well as conduct the trial. And I don't know how many lawyers or advocates this man met and invited to work with, but to pay for a lawyer or advocate, the price was quite hefty.
In my opinion, if for example the condition of the ticket can still be read and verified, that is not a problem. And I think that the damage to the lottery ticket was just an alibi and trick to thwart the man's winnings, because the bookie didn't want to lose.
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A lotto winner in the Philippines who won 12 million pesos in 2014 worth $217k now, can finally claim his lotto winning and this is after 9 years of legal battle
That is a long battle to win a lottery and i wonder how much he paid in lawyer fees for all these years to get $217k in return. Hope it is worth the battle because it does not sound like a lot of money to battle for 9 years considering how much legal fees you will be paying in a situation like this. A lotto winner in the Philippines who won 12 million pesos in 2014 worth $217k now, can finally claim his lotto winning and this is after 9 years of legal battle
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I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.
How would you fight tooth and nail if you are not having the ticket ? You lost the ticket, you do not get the win, end of story !!! I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
He fought to claim his winnings, and I think it's worth the wait. Twelve million pesos is still a lot of money; he's now one of the millionaires in the Philippines, so he should be happy with that. The 6% interest per annum is another bonus, so I guess he'll now live a good life with the money he won from the lottery.
The good thing is that the court has honored his winnings. I thought when a ticket is already destroyed, it's automatically non-acceptable, but the ruling of the court favors him but the sad part is after nine long years. What kind of justice system is that?
$217K is a whole lot of money mate, so if you're asking if the wait, the struggle, the sacrifices was worth the wait, hell yeah it was. This only proves that you gotta make huge sacrifices and give up stuffs before you get what you want, sometimes even before you get what you truly deserve. I can only imagine the frustration the dude must have been through tryna fight for what's really his. Prove that sometimes life just wanna screw you over lol.
I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.
I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.
it was worth it to wait that long and win the case in the end. $217k is still a lot of money in the philippines and with that money he can build his life for the better. i salute the court and the lawyers who fought for him to be able to give him justice. and it is very rare to be able to win against a gambling platform in court because you know that the gambling platform has the resources and influence that they can use to fight, and it seems that the courts there still have integrity and dignity that cannot be bought.
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I will do the same as him and fight for that right to win, especially if there is evidence that confirms that I have the right to receive the winnings. And now that there is the internet, we can ask for support from people while showing the accurate evidence that we have. If they all support what we are doing, it doesn't seem like it will take long to get the winning money.
He deserved this winning, especially since he had fought for 9 years to resolve the case. Even though he has lost a lot from solving the case, he still has his winnings so he can start his life, and maybe he can even open his business with the winnings.
He deserved this winning, especially since he had fought for 9 years to resolve the case. Even though he has lost a lot from solving the case, he still has his winnings so he can start his life, and maybe he can even open his business with the winnings.
It's been a long time, but it's been validated. Right, the ticket has an expiration date of 6 months; how come the duration of claiming his lottery winnings was extended?
But even so, almost a decade later, the owner of the ticket still fought. That means the wait is still worth it, and the lottery winner has not lost hope. Maybe the son who paid some part of the ticket seems like he can't forgive himself because of what happened. I'm just wondering if I'm the one in the child's situation that caused the problem with the ticket.
But even so, almost a decade later, the owner of the ticket still fought. That means the wait is still worth it, and the lottery winner has not lost hope. Maybe the son who paid some part of the ticket seems like he can't forgive himself because of what happened. I'm just wondering if I'm the one in the child's situation that caused the problem with the ticket.
I don't think that it's not about the PCSO being unwilling to assist the winner.
As per this post from ;
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.
The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.
The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.
The holder of the ticket had already won all the trials but it's the PCSO who keeps appealing, that was in 3 court, RTC, COP and SC, all of them favored the holder of the ticket that wasn't honored, so that's the reason why the winnings was release. So if PCSO was willing to give, they should have not appealed after the RTC already made a decision.
Were there no records of the bet beforehand in the lottery system in the first place? Though idrk how it works so they may not even have that kind of system, or even if they did, they never save stuff in the first place. Anyway, I reckon 200k usd is pretty big once converted into php. It might be a different thing depending on the costs he had though, considering it was a 9 year fight and lawyers are by no means cheap. I reckon they had no choice but to proceed though after a certain point so it just lasted till 9 years. I'd say still worth it though, as I said, it's still a lot of money if you consider the cost of living in the PH.
My mother used to work for a lottery house back then and I think they do have a system that records it so either the lottery teller was bad at her job or that the person behind it was just plain stupid that they've got this problem. 9 years of his life was wasted on this, I think that any sane person would just go for it because that amount money I think is still worth a lot even after all those fees for the case, and we can't forget that he was also a expatriate worker which means that he's got the money at the least in all of this, definitely worth it as you've said I live in the Philippines so I know what you are talking about in terms of cost of living and it's damn expensive especially if you are a breadwinner for the family and you don't really have a big salary for your work. 
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However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.
The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.
I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.
That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.
But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.
It appears that the PCSO is unwilling to assist the winner, despite him having all the necessary evidence to prove his win. While I understand that it's a substantial amount of money, the PCSO generates significant daily revenue from the lottery. It would be more than fair to award the rightful winner, not only as a matter of justice but also to inspire bettors who consistently place bets in the hopes of winning the jackpot prize one day.
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However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.
The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.
I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.
That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.
But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.
It appears that the PCSO is unwilling to assist the winner, despite him having all the necessary evidence to prove his win. While I understand that it's a substantial amount of money, the PCSO generates significant daily revenue from the lottery. It would be more than fair to award the rightful winner, not only as a matter of justice but also to inspire bettors who consistently place bets in the hopes of winning the jackpot prize one day.
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