9 Years Before He finally claim his lotto rewards - page 6.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

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Almost nine years ago – on October 2, 2014 – Mendoza placed three bets for the Lotto 6/42 through lucky pick in an outlet in Batangas. A day later, he found out he won. The problem was his granddaughter crumpled his winning ticket.

In an attempt to straighten the ticket, Mendoza’s daughter ironed the ticket with a piece of cloth covering it. However, the ticket was blackened instead. The only remaining visible details were:
The first two digits of the three bet combinations
The outlet from which the ticket was bought
Draw date
Date of purchase
Partially, the time the ticket was purchased

In these 9 years, the winner did not lose hope and summoned the help of lawmakers and lawyers to help him win the case he even worked as an overseas worker and just came home just to attend hearings and follow with his case and he even sold some of his properties so he can sustain the battle.

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

https://www.rappler.com/nation/give-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-million-prize-supreme-court-orders-pcso/
https://news.abs-cbn.com/lifestyle/classified-odd/10/10/14/winning-lotto-ticket-burned-flat-iron
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2023/10/26/pcso-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-12-million-prize.html

In my country, if you buy lottery in bank, they save your personal information and if you lose ticket, you'll still be able to claim your winning but if you buy them in lottery boxes in the street, then you have to keep ticket undamaged with you. In overall, many company wants to don't give away prize if they have legal right to keep it but in this case, I can't blame company for what they did because ticket was really damaged and this is something that ticket owner has to take care. Btw I am happy that ticket owner won it finally. Yes, nine 9 years have passed and inflation has eaten some of his money but still it's better than nothing. This lesson will teach ticket owner to take care of everything that he holds.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:38:39 AM

Quote from: Yogee on November 20, 2023, 08:33:00 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

We need more details about the case but if the winner didn't give up even after selling properties then the money must have been worth it. There's probably compensations other than the jackpot + interests that are not being disclosed.

What I want to know is will they pay the equivalent amount of that 12 million pesos in today's money? The value is no longer the same if you include inflation. I key in the data to an inflation calculator and it's saying the current value is around 16.3 million pesos.

I have provided all the articles to complete the details I cannot just copy paste all the articles here, all you need to do is spend a minute or two to read the article
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First I would like to clarify that this is a true story, it was covered by reputable media in the Philippines and there are articles provided in this thread you can also Google this story.

At the beginning of my thread so how can you miss it? Sad

I read the article from CNN and nothing was mentioned about how much the winner spent for the legal process so how would I know if it was worth it? The article also did not mention anything about the effect of inflation that I am asking. You were not curious at all if the 12 million+ from 9 years ago is the same as today?

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter

Since the person won the case and is now be able to claim his winnings, no matter how long the trial is, it is worth the wait. A normal employee can't earn Php12m in 10 years. The rift with his daughter has been established when they won the lottery, so whether they pursue the case or not, the rift had already been established.

Quote from: Yogee on November 20, 2023, 08:33:00 AM

The value of ₱12,391,600 in 2014 was equivalent to ₱16,341,048.582 in 2023.

This means that what costs ₱12,391,600 in 2014 would have cost ₱16,341,048.582 in 2023.
The purchasing power of the peso has depreciated by 31.87% from 2014 to 2023.

@OP stated that the person will be given a 6% interest per annum, for 9 years, I think they are giving the person way more than the inflation rate depreciation.

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Quote from: Yogee on November 20, 2023, 08:33:00 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

We need more details about the case but if the winner didn't give up even after selling properties then the money must have been worth it. There's probably compensations other than the jackpot + interests that are not being disclosed.

What I want to know is will they pay the equivalent amount of that 12 million pesos in today's money? The value is no longer the same if you include inflation. I key in the data to an inflation calculator and it's saying the current value is around 16.3 million pesos.

I have provided all the articles to complete the details I cannot just copy paste all the articles here, all you need to do is spend a minute or two to read the article
I also posted

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First I would like to clarify that this is a true story, it was covered by reputable media in the Philippines and there are articles provided in this thread you can also Google this story.

At the beginning of my thread so how can you miss it? Sad

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

We need more details about the case but if the winner didn't give up even after selling properties then the money must have been worth it. There's probably compensations other than the jackpot + interests that are not being disclosed.

What I want to know is will they pay the equivalent amount of that 12 million pesos in today's money? The value is no longer the same if you include inflation. I key in the data to an inflation calculator and it's saying the current value is around 16.3 million pesos.

https://filgit.com/philippine-inflation-calculator

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The value of ₱12,391,600 in 2014 was equivalent to ₱16,341,048.582 in 2023.

This means that what costs ₱12,391,600 in 2014 would have cost ₱16,341,048.582 in 2023.
The purchasing power of the peso has depreciated by 31.87% from 2014 to 2023.

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Quote from: stadus on November 20, 2023, 08:20:20 AM

The good thing is that the court has honored his winnings. I thought when a ticket is already destroyed, it's automatically non-acceptable, but the ruling of the court favors him but the sad part is after nine long years. What kind of justice system is that?

I have followed this story and the high court is right in presenting the decision to award the prize based on the article provided by OP

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The High Court also explained that the circumstances surrounding the fact that Mendoza won the lotto were clearly established. Despite the RTC and CA’s characterization of Mendoza’s evidence as secondary, the SC said “secondary evidence may be resorted to when the original document is unavailable.”

Hence the secondary evidence pointed him to be the winner and besides no other came forward to claim the prize only him, It is a total injustice if he is deprived of the prize when there is a piece of physical evidence presented although partly damaged, this is a landmark case and the court have uphold justice that the winner deserves his prize, the winner suffers a lot and its not good to go to another hardship all through his life by having his appeal denied.

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It's worth the wait and it's a good lesson for everyone who is playing the national lotto in our country.
I suddenly remembered my grandfather and I know where he is keeping his lottery tickets. They are all in good condition, not even a fold, even the lottery tickets from somewhere 3-5 months ago (if I remember correctly) were all in good condition, even the numbers are still visible.
I always keep his taxi cab clean that's why I know it all and I am also the one who went to the lotto outlet to place a bet when I was young.
A mistake was made by ironing the ticket but if the other details are still intact then I bet the PCSO could still track that it's a legitimate winning ticket from their records.
Sometimes it's just a matter of fixing it in a different way but it seems like PCSO doesn't really want to give the prize money to him. He still has the ticket and it should be enough proof that he made the bet and PCSO would just need to confirm it by searching their system.
I think it's also worth it because even though it took long, at least now we know there will be people who are willing to help out to solve the case.

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What I can say as lesson learnt from this true life story is that we shouldn't carelessly misplace our gambling tickets or lose it because the gambling house won't accept any explanation you might want to give even when they know you are not a stone throw away from the truth as the true winner of the said game.

The man fought what can be described as a good legal battle, a battle of almost a decade, only God knows the agony he must have passed through all those years in this legal battle with the bet outlet. He was so lucky to still have some details left uncleaned on his ticket after his daughter had ironed it with the intention to straighten the rumple ticket, if it was a complete blank ticket there wouldn't have been any evidence substantial to win this battle. Congratulations to him.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 20, 2023, 08:12:09 AM

Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter

He fought to claim his winnings, and I think it's worth the wait. Twelve million pesos is still a lot of money; he's now one of the millionaires in the Philippines, so he should be happy with that. The 6% interest per annum is another bonus, so I guess he'll now live a good life with the money he won from the lottery.

The good thing is that the court has honored his winnings. I thought when a ticket is already destroyed, it's automatically non-acceptable, but the ruling of the court favors him but the sad part is after nine long years. What kind of justice system is that?

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First I would like to clarify that this is a true story, it was covered by reputable media in the Philippines and there are articles provided in this thread you can also Google this story.

A lotto winner in the Philippines who won 12 million pesos in 2014 worth $217k now, can finally claim his lotto winning and this is after 9 years of legal battle

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On Oct. 5, 2014, Mendoza went to the PCSO Main Office in Mandaluyong City where he submitted a handwritten account of the incident to the legal department.

But because the damaged ticket could not be validated, Mendoza was told by the PCSO on Oct. 20, 2014 that he could not claim the prize. This was based on the PCSO’s prevailing conditions on claiming/payment of winnings.

This prompted him to seek relief from the SC and after nine years of legal battle, the high court ruled that the circumstances surrounding the fact that Mendoza won the lottery were established and that the testimonies of Mendoza and his family were admissible.

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Almost nine years ago – on October 2, 2014 – Mendoza placed three bets for the Lotto 6/42 through lucky pick in an outlet in Batangas. A day later, he found out he won. The problem was his granddaughter crumpled his winning ticket.

In an attempt to straighten the ticket, Mendoza’s daughter ironed the ticket with a piece of cloth covering it. However, the ticket was blackened instead. The only remaining visible details were:
The first two digits of the three bet combinations
The outlet from which the ticket was bought
Draw date
Date of purchase
Partially, the time the ticket was purchased

In these 9 years, the winner did not lose hope and summoned the help of lawmakers and lawyers to help him win the case he even worked as an overseas worker and just came home just to attend hearings and follow with his case and he even sold some of his properties so he can sustain the battle.

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

https://www.rappler.com/nation/give-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-million-prize-supreme-court-orders-pcso/
https://news.abs-cbn.com/lifestyle/classified-odd/10/10/14/winning-lotto-ticket-burned-flat-iron
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2023/10/26/pcso-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-12-million-prize.html

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