I'm sure Goat and Rpietila are one of them 
hmm... yeah I am one of them.
Weirdly, that doesn't sound like all that much. I am kind of surprised that only 927 addresses have at least 1k bitcoins in them.
Topic: 927 People Own Half of All Bitcions - page 2. (Read 5923 times)
hmm... yeah I am one of them.
Weirdly, that doesn't sound like all that much. I am kind of surprised that only 927 addresses have at least 1k bitcoins in them.
I'm sure Goat and Rpietila are one of them
hmm... yeah I am one of them.
Weirdly, that doesn't sound like all that much. I am kind of surprised that only 927 addresses have at least 1k bitcoins in them.
These articles miss the point. They're calling addresses people. This would be the equivalent of saying 90+% of all US dollars are owned by 100 people (probably fewer), because BANKS are the ones holding the dollars for the vast majority of all currency.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
this.
please stop posting these bullshit articles that don't understand bitcoins.
addresses != people
that said, the central point of "a few people own most of bitcoin" is still true, it just needs to be stated intelligently.
edit: I lol'ed at this comment:
nope on Dec 11, 6:00 PM said:
Please stop posting these utterly incorrect articles. Do you understand the difference between an ADDRESS and an INDIVIDUAL? I will break it down:
1. an individual can have multiple ADDRESSES.
2. exchanges and other investment platforms hold COINS FOR MANY PEOPLE in a SMALL NUMBER OF ADDRESSES, aka, A SINGLE ADDRESS can be holding the coins for MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
There is this amazing technology called "database" which uses magical math and electro-shocks to store who actually owns what! It's a weird old trick!
You want to sound so matter of fact about your claims, but you don't even understand the basic facts. You should delete this article to save face.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/927-people-own-half-of-the-bitcoins-2013-12#ixzz2nD5uj8JZ
These articles miss the point. They're calling addresses people. This would be the equivalent of saying 90+% of all US dollars are owned by 100 people (probably fewer), because BANKS are the ones holding the dollars for the vast majority of all currency.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
I agree with this. Exchanges and other bitcoin businesses don't usually have 1,000 addresses for holding their bitcoin, but a few hot wallets and maybe a few cold storage wallets.
I personally think that those 927 people do contribute to the volatility
1. A buy & hold/hoard strategy (ironically used by people that think they are supporting BTC) manipulates the volatilty of BTC to the upside. (It removes those BTC from the actively traded BTC amount.) BTC is volatile enough as it is with a small market cap but even worse if only a small % of coins are actively traded as small $ or BTC inflows/outflows drastically move the market.
2.Their unintentional strategy manipulates the price of BTC to the downside
(Once hoarded/held - their BTC don't contribute to the future buying pressure only additional selling pressure whenever they choose to sell. I think it would help if some of them sell a few BTC into large rises and buy on dips with profits, that way I think they will help stabilize rising markets and supporting falling ones.
1. A buy & hold/hoard strategy (ironically used by people that think they are supporting BTC) manipulates the volatilty of BTC to the upside. (It removes those BTC from the actively traded BTC amount.) BTC is volatile enough as it is with a small market cap but even worse if only a small % of coins are actively traded as small $ or BTC inflows/outflows drastically move the market.
2.Their unintentional strategy manipulates the price of BTC to the downside
(Once hoarded/held - their BTC don't contribute to the future buying pressure only additional selling pressure whenever they choose to sell. I think it would help if some of them sell a few BTC into large rises and buy on dips with profits, that way I think they will help stabilize rising markets and supporting falling ones.
How many per cent of all USD is held by the 900 richest people in USA?
The richest 1% (somewhere around 2 to 3 million people) hold 42% of the wealth in the USA. So should be somewhere around 10-20%.
Source? See this: Walmart Heirs Worth Same Amount As Bottom 40 Percent Of Americans In 2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/waltons-net-worth_n_1680642.html
When gold appeared did they evenly distribute it amongst the population? Noo....
This is how currency work's a few wont he majority, hell The american dollar is 99% owned by 1% of the population...
This is how currency work's a few wont he majority, hell The american dollar is 99% owned by 1% of the population...
Not that the stat is correct, but if it were its 3.1million people, so quite different.
This doesn't have too much bearing on the volatility as I don't believe those holders are necessarily active. The volatility is because there's little to base a value on so the slightest news or a unexpected movement up or down quickly gains focus and runs away. Add to this speculators either pumping or dumping and you have a recipe for large swings.
How many per cent of all USD is held by the 900 richest people in USA?
Definitely not 50%. Should be much less than that amount. The richest 1% (somewhere around 2 to 3 million people) hold 42% of the wealth in the USA. So should be somewhere around 10-20%.
How many per cent of all USD is held by the 900 richest people in USA?
In a way it's a good thing. People putting so much trust and Millions of their money into Bitcoin.
Good until they decide to cash out....
Good until they decide to cash out....
But when you've got 50% of the coins in existence being hoarded and played with by only 900 people .... you're going to get volatility.
as was gold.
but then the hoarders sold off and began circulating. EG Dubai/airport vending machines selling gold, pawn shops specialising in gold. 20 years ago you couldnt simply walk up to a snack machine or a town/mall store and buy gold bars (unless it was in the form of jewellery)
same will happen with bitcoin.
its still young, allow bitcoin to grow up before judging its future
Only 2 people max can own half of all bitcoins.
wrong. i know your being sarcastic, but for those that dont get the joke.
a "bitcoin" can be owned by upto 10,000,000 people, if they all hold 1 satoshi each.
so there is plenty of scope to cover the world population, and eventually those that own the most will eventually sell out and put their hoards into circulation
I'm sure Goat and Rpietila are one of them
And yet people complain fiat is unevenly distributed 
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
But conversely, many of those addresses are likely owned by single owners.
Only 2 people max can own half of all bitcoins.
Um, Huh?
It's referring to a certain "pool of people" who collectively own half of all bitcoins that have currently been mined.
Only 2 people max can own half of all bitcoins.
The 'hoarding' argument has been argued to death.
These articles miss the point. They're calling addresses people. This would be the equivalent of saying 90+% of all US dollars are owned by 100 people (probably fewer), because BANKS are the ones holding the dollars for the vast majority of all currency.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
Good point, that really obscures everthing.
There is some legitimacy to the claim that once there are more coins floating around, the fluctuations won't be so intense.
But when you've got 50% of the coins in existence being hoarded and played with by only 900 people .... you're going to get volatility.
That's why Bitcion is so "volatile" (to all you "journalists" out there) ... its not because Bitcoin sucks.
You're out of your mind if you think those a substantial amount of those 47 are trading on the exchanges. Anyway, for all of the bitcoins that they "hoard", it just increases the purchasing power of the rest of our coins.
Notice that the average mega-rich bitcoiner is different from the average person. They aren't exactly the undeserving lottery winners; they were the only true believers when this thing was in its prenatal stage.
The initial distribution of BTC doesn't matter. It will increasingly flow to the productive people, especially because governments can't as easily forcibly redistribute it.
These articles miss the point. They're calling addresses people. This would be the equivalent of saying 90+% of all US dollars are owned by 100 people (probably fewer), because BANKS are the ones holding the dollars for the vast majority of all currency.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
A huge number of those stockpiles are likely wallets for exchanges.
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