95% of Bounties Are Bullshit For Everyone Involved - page 8.

dio1715

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Quote from: presduterte on November 04, 2018, 04:37:44 AM

Bounty hunters have become so useless that they now offer an ICO nothing. All their Facebook friends, Twitter followers, YouTube subscribers, whatever -- its all fake numbers and they always do the bare minimum to promote an ICO. Even ranks on this forum are faked. Merits are bought and sold, accounts can be farmed, purchased, for absolutely no purpose other than to spam this forum with useless information.

And what kind of traffic do they end up driving to an ICO website? Almost nothing. Most bounty campaigns literally have more participants than they will ever receive hits to their website, meaning the average traffic driven to a website by today's bounty hunter is less than 1 visit per month. Again, its because of all the fudged numbers. Everything is faked, nothing is real. There is no quality control whatsoever.

I really don't understand why anybody does social media bounty campaigns any more. Translations, graphic designers, website builders, app developers -- those are the real bounty hunters. Social media bounty hunters are just scum sucking parasites. They root through garbage trying to collect digital specs of nothing, leaving a trail of trash behind them.

Nobody wants to learn a thing about anything -- they just want "free money" as easily as possible, which usually ends up being worthless anyway. Would most of you just be sitting around doing nothing if you didn't consider this to be a means of "employment"? My guess is the answer is "yes." Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Bounty campaigns is an element of marketing. The projects do not spend anything. They pay for the work their own coins, not real money. This gives a certain effect. Perhaps it does not attract large investors, but it makes the project more famous. This is aggressive marketing, which gives a certain result.

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I think the reality is more than 95%, even if you choose a good project to join you are still more likely to receive nothing, or a small amount of money than effort spent.

Tasiril

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”Decentralized Digital Billboards”

I agree with some of your option but not with all. These traditional bounty campaigns were useful but with increasing number of participants people try to increasing their amount of friends and subscribers. But in option this traditional bounty rules must be updated. I believe social media is good place to promote anything but it should be used with proper plan.

cryptario

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Nearly all the ICOs are hot garbage so it's little wonder that the bounties and signature campaigns do little to make them successful. Real projects with technical merit easily just get lost in the noise, so this bounty BS will continue. That said we are looking for a manager to bring awareness to our project, which will not be doing an ICO.

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Quote from: pranazzs on November 04, 2018, 05:12:11 AM

Currently there are many bounty hunters who only use a Newbie account. Which means they have created a new account, maybe not just one.
Lots of people who have multiple accounts.
better in the future, allowed to join the Bounty is a minimum Jr.Member account.

I also often find people who intentionally use my account username to follow the bounty.

Most of those types of newbies are bots with autoposting software connected with bitcointalk making bounty reports for social media especially. You can detect them easily - just watch those topics where bounty campaign has been closed and topic was not closed - you can see those guys posting reports over and over again.
And you are right.

presduterte

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Quote from: cryptic4000 on November 04, 2018, 06:00:13 AM

It seems you do not understand the crowd law. When you are an investor, you see a lot of advertising on a project, you will definitely pay attention and will want to learn about it. The purpose here is to crowd effect. The more it appears, the more it will affect your psychology. I think you have a very wrong view about marketing.

you're missing the point: most bounty hunters use fake followers, friends, subscribers, etc. therefore they are not really creating a "crowd effect" at all, but simply whispering into the wind. I recently had access to the Google Analytics data of an ICO and saw that in a 1 month bounty campaign, with 20 bitcointalk members wearing signatures, it drove exactly 3 hits to the project website. A complete waste of time for both parties involved.

Twitter, Google, Facebook are just as bad. A lot of bounty hunters complain about ICOs being scams but really they are equally as bad a scammer themselves by pretending to have influence they don't actually have, therefore both parties lose and nobody wins. I just don't understand how anybody makes money this way.

Do you guys really make money being a social media bounty person? How much? Like $30 a month? I'm genuinely curious.

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Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 04, 2018, 09:56:58 AM

I have the opposite story to tell, as a part-time bounty hunter doing videos and blog reviews mainly and signature campaigns, I have always put my utmost care and attention into doing my jobs with conscientiousness, but you tell me if in the last few months I have earned even enough to pay my internet and not getting hardly any tokens or payments from bounties in the last six months, almost made me homeless just before Xmas, I will have to say most of the ICOS in 2018 have been BS since the crash of the market in January and although I still do some bounties in the HOPE some MIGHT actually pay out, I have stopped thinking of bounties as a way to work and earn a living. Now I just look at them as something I MIGHT earn as an extra side thing IF I am lucky. I am tired of chasing and requesting payment for jobs rendered, only to have those ICOS scam, or the tokens never reach an exchange.

Imagine some bounties locking payouts for many months without paying. Even the supposedly good projects don't have good token economics. The tokens don't rise in value as the project becomes more popular . I must say it's kinda frustrating, but I'll still keep on with them in the hope that things change.

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A portion may be considered correct. The current market is so difficult for ICOs to succeed, when they can not call up the required amount they can pay to the bounty hunter very little, seemingly insignificant.

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Quote from: presduterte on November 04, 2018, 04:37:44 AM

Bounty hunters have become so useless that they now offer an ICO nothing. All their Facebook friends, Twitter followers, YouTube subscribers, whatever -- its all fake numbers and they always do the bare minimum to promote an ICO. Even ranks on this forum are faked. Merits are bought and sold, accounts can be farmed, purchased, for absolutely no purpose other than to spam this forum with useless information.

Fake accounts are not new to bounties especially for the participants in facebook, twitter and telegram. Since there are thousand participants in some campaign, the shit participants are using this time to register but does not do anything to help promote campaign. If the campaign succeeded they will receive stakes. But this time, legit projects mostly does not meeting its softcap or hardcap even though there are so many participants because these are fake accounts. Sometimes, there are multiple accounts in one campaign.

fempat

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Quote from: pranazzs on November 04, 2018, 05:12:11 AM

Currently there are many bounty hunters who only use a Newbie account. Which means they have created a new account, maybe not just one.
Lots of people who have multiple accounts.
better in the future, allowed to join the Bounty is a minimum Jr.Member account.

I also often find people who intentionally use my account username to follow the bounty.

Funny as it is, I was once a victim of hack. Someone hacked my bitcointalk account and changed my details. Apparently he intended to sell it, but it was later useless for both of us.
As the op has said, bounties are not what they were intended to be anymore. Imagine twitter for instance, my timeline is usually filled with many useless tweets and retweets which say little or nothing about the project. It's time the whole bounty thing is reshuffled.

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Quote from: presduterte on November 04, 2018, 04:37:44 AM

Nobody wants to learn a thing about anything -- they just want "free money" as easily as possible, which usually ends up being worthless anyway. Would most of you just be sitting around doing nothing if you didn't consider this to be a means of "employment"? My guess is the answer is "yes." Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The fact was like that, every bounty hunter especially comes to this place or spend money to invests in cryptocurrency just following what someone else has done. They only did if someone else has done it, without realizing and that it was a useless act. I do not mind if someone is looking for money in cryptocurrency only as an additional income, because I am sure that cryptocurrency is worthy of being used as such. But usually those who aim for it are not very concerned about the aspects they will do, they should do what they have known beforehand either from the method or the research they have done.

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I think it's morely on the hype side that's why the more bounty hunters then the better.

qiwoman2

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I have the opposite story to tell, as a part-time bounty hunter doing videos and blog reviews mainly and signature campaigns, I have always put my utmost care and attention into doing my jobs with conscientiousness, but you tell me if in the last few months I have earned even enough to pay my internet and not getting hardly any tokens or payments from bounties in the last six months, almost made me homeless just before Xmas, I will have to say most of the ICOS in 2018 have been BS since the crash of the market in January and although I still do some bounties in the HOPE some MIGHT actually pay out, I have stopped thinking of bounties as a way to work and earn a living. Now I just look at them as something I MIGHT earn as an extra side thing IF I am lucky. I am tired of chasing and requesting payment for jobs rendered, only to have those ICOS scam, or the tokens never reach an exchange.

alrose

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Indeed, many hunters get tokens for useless work. Many people do not even study projects, but simply do it for the sake of quantity and "suddenly get lucky." Personally, I do a video review of projects. And before making it, I carefully study the project, consider all the positive and negative qualities of the project.

Sendi blackspade team

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for people who don't believe in bounty really pay definitely say that. but for me who followed the bounty and got a lot of benefits from the bounty campaign I would say there was no nonsense with bounties. indeed, for a lot of bounties lately that ended badly, even many did not get paid, but that did not make me afraid, I just needed to be more careful.

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Don't take seriously Bro ! all Bounty is not Bullshit, but there is a part of Bullshit ICO, we have to analyze every ICO that has great potential for success. minimum ICO sales reach Softcap.

You must learn to choose a good ICO, there are many things you have to analyze such as vision and mission, team, advisor, partner, features, and future prospects.

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Quote from: Ibas samara on November 04, 2018, 08:46:27 AM

Your opinion is not entirely correct. One of purpose of opening a bounty program is to grow the community. They hope the existing community will help in achieving their goals. Of course the work orders given to bounty hunters are to promote the projects they are developing. So in my opinion the bounty hunter also has a role in it.

Well said, on one comes here to make fool they desperately work hard to make their project success. But unfortunately they fail bounty hunters try their best to develop their project well time matters for everyone.

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That's President Duterte talking. Yes we all know the straight talking tough guy is famous among any other leader in the world. But I bet he knows nothing about marketing in the forum which works than any SEO and advertising company who will still end up hiring a bounty manager here in bitcointalk for signature campaign.

Is the EOS and ETH part of that 95%?

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I have a lot of disagreements with your post and I would love specified proofs

Firstly, what proof do you have that 95% of bounties are bullshit when 95% of icos are not bullshit or scam

Secondly, what do you mean by social media campaigns section does not serve purpose for an ico project
I can guarantee you that participants from close to over 100countries participates in bounties making over 2 million post during the course of the campaign

Are you sure social media campaigns are irrevelant ?
What purpose does translation serves ? Only specified countries and highest translation campaign is 8 counties

But social media campaigns comprises of both Europe, America, Asia and Africa, so please explain your points sir

Finally, you mentioned that bounty hunters dump ?
Wow, investors buy over 45% of total supply and you blame over 100,000 people who splitter just 1%

Please make a review and provide answers

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I think you're completely wrong with your assertion that bounty hunters are worthless and didn't offer ICOs anything, yes there are fake bounty hunters that are cutting corners but truth be told, there are so many bounty hunters that do their task diligently and mind you, you can never underestimate the power of crowd force bounty hunters are generating a lot of traffics to ICO websites

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