A case of the pandemic changing the score and affecting sports betting

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Quote from: tabas on October 26, 2020, 05:46:58 PM

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And relating to the topic, if a player didn't play for certain matches I think it will affect their salary and contracts. I'm not so sure about how it works but there's also some incentives and as well as deductions basing on their performances.
It could possibly be or someone who knows how contract works can explain more of it.

There will be no deduction of salary based on their performance as that is already in the contract, but if they will not perform well, they might be traded or they will not be re-signed when the contract expires. However for incentives, it's possible as that's additional compensation for the player, no one would complain that as it does not violate a contract.

There can be a condition that's saying, "right to terminate or modify the said terms". I guess we have signed a job contract and I think it's not that much different from these contract signing of these professional basketball players.
Obviously, there's an expiry for the contract and it can be renewed if the management and the player agrees.

They probably include the incentive in the contract but separate from "main salary". Maybe only such incentive is modified when a player performs, doesn't perform well or is absent from matches without good reasons. Maybe the salary is basic and guaranteed while the incentive is used to reward/"punish" them for their performance.

This model could work really well in encouraging good performance in other areas of life and it's kind of fair. If I'm an employer, I would offer 60% main/basic salary and 40% incentives in my contract with employees. The incentive will be adjustable, based on their performances

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There are lots of factors we need to look at in any sports games considering this pandemic that hits some of the players which have a huge effect on their team performance.

Some of these factors are how would it affect the team if a lead player couldn't show up because they are infected by the virus and how the remaining players who could make it to the game but still will hold them back to perform well because of the anxiety that they are going through since none of them don't know who else among them has the virus but doesn't show any symptoms yet.

Furthermore, these factors will definitely affect the result of the games, a little on who will win but on the scoring, there is a change that is obvious and different from what it is supposed to be. I guess for bettors like me who take betting for entertainment, it is perfectly fine since it gives us more twist and excitement as it became more unpredictable now.

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Quote from: tabas on October 26, 2020, 05:46:58 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 26, 2020, 05:42:43 PM

Quote from: tabas on October 24, 2020, 05:56:59 PM

And relating to the topic, if a player didn't play for certain matches I think it will affect their salary and contracts. I'm not so sure about how it works but there's also some incentives and as well as deductions basing on their performances.
It could possibly be or someone who knows how contract works can explain more of it.

There will be no deduction of salary based on their performance as that is already in the contract, but if they will not perform well, they might be traded or they will not be re-signed when the contract expires. However for incentives, it's possible as that's additional compensation for the player, no one would complain that as it does not violate a contract.

There can be a condition that's saying, "right to terminate or modify the said terms". I guess we have signed a job contract and I think it's not that much different from these contract signing of these professional basketball players.
Obviously, there's an expiry for the contract and it can be renewed if the management and the player agrees.

Terminate or modify, I think it would only possible under a certain circumstances, maybe like the covid-19 as this is considered as an event that cannot be foreseen, and it's destroying us now which affects businesses profitability.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 26, 2020, 05:42:43 PM

Quote from: tabas on October 24, 2020, 05:56:59 PM

And relating to the topic, if a player didn't play for certain matches I think it will affect their salary and contracts. I'm not so sure about how it works but there's also some incentives and as well as deductions basing on their performances.
It could possibly be or someone who knows how contract works can explain more of it.

There will be no deduction of salary based on their performance as that is already in the contract, but if they will not perform well, they might be traded or they will not be re-signed when the contract expires. However for incentives, it's possible as that's additional compensation for the player, no one would complain that as it does not violate a contract.

There can be a condition that's saying, "right to terminate or modify the said terms". I guess we have signed a job contract and I think it's not that much different from these contract signing of these professional basketball players.
Obviously, there's an expiry for the contract and it can be renewed if the management and the player agrees.

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Quote from: tabas on October 24, 2020, 05:56:59 PM

And relating to the topic, if a player didn't play for certain matches I think it will affect their salary and contracts. I'm not so sure about how it works but there's also some incentives and as well as deductions basing on their performances.
It could possibly be or someone who knows how contract works can explain more of it.

There will be no deduction of salary based on their performance as that is already in the contract, but if they will not perform well, they might be traded or they will not be re-signed when the contract expires. However for incentives, it's possible as that's additional compensation for the player, no one would complain that as it does not violate a contract.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on October 24, 2020, 02:37:16 AM

Quote from: tabas on October 23, 2020, 06:45:58 PM

Yes, it's part of the plan. They get a salary based on their contracts and if they wouldn't follow the agreements, they'll receive no salary.
The protocols are their utmost priority to be followed to continue the events. We saw them how they've come up with an idea and I guess most of us didn't thought of it.

It is why the organization and sports association have managed to continue their sports events for the fans and sports bettors, even we are in the middle of a pandemic, as long as players, managers, staff members, and fans are following the safety protocols. Their salary truly depends on their contracts, whether they lose or win, so if there will be no games or events, they definitely won't get paid.

And relating to the topic, if a player didn't play for certain matches I think it will affect their salary and contracts. I'm not so sure about how it works but there's also some incentives and as well as deductions basing on their performances.
It could possibly be or someone who knows how contract works can explain more of it.

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The good thing that their managements have come up with a strategy which they can still play and continue whichever league or sports they are playing.
The consideration and resolution that they have for these players and their organizations made us, the fans really happy.

And the team needs to do it because they also needs to be paid and if the game wont progress then there should be a chance that the management will give them up so things must go to proper place again.
But yeah fans like us will be very happy now that action is back though we wanted to go in real watching and not just Via Online that sometimes making me Bore as i use to watch my Fav Team in live gaming.

Yes, it's part of the plan. They get a salary based on their contracts and if they wouldn't follow the agreements, they'll receive no salary.
The protocols are their utmost priority to be followed to continue the events. We saw them how they've come up with an idea and I guess most of us didn't thought of it.

It is why the organization and sports association have managed to continue their sports events for the fans and sports bettors, even we are in the middle of a pandemic, as long as players, managers, staff members, and fans are following the safety protocols. Their salary truly depends on their contracts, whether they lose or win, so if there will be no games or events, they definitely won't get paid.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 21, 2020, 09:41:16 PM

Quote from: tabas on October 19, 2020, 05:13:08 PM

The good thing that their managements have come up with a strategy which they can still play and continue whichever league or sports they are playing.
The consideration and resolution that they have for these players and their organizations made us, the fans really happy.

And the team needs to do it because they also needs to be paid and if the game wont progress then there should be a chance that the management will give them up so things must go to proper place again.
But yeah fans like us will be very happy now that action is back though we wanted to go in real watching and not just Via Online that sometimes making me Bore as i use to watch my Fav Team in live gaming.

Yes, it's part of the plan. They get a salary based on their contracts and if they wouldn't follow the agreements, they'll receive no salary.
The protocols are their utmost priority to be followed to continue the events. We saw them how they've come up with an idea and I guess most of us didn't thought of it.

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Quote from: dimonstration on October 19, 2020, 07:28:45 AM

Internet connection is a big problem now since many started to use Internet every seconds now during these Pandemic new normal since many are into online activities now might be for online schooling, Work from home jobs, online businesses and etc.that will affects also the online gambling and betting especially those live ones. Dota2 and Mobile Legends Tournament can have Internet problem and issue if Internet provider been having a connection problem due to bulk users and these games or any live casino or betting games is really in need to find a stable Internet provider to solve these issues.

I can relate, I have to change to two internet providers and check who can give the best speed in my location, people who wants a good speed here in my location should not opt to broadband and instead go for Fiber, I've been using broadband for the past six years and when many people now are online it reduced my speed I have no choice but to switch to Fiber, now I'm back to my old desired speed I can bet in ral time without lagging and do my online works and finish it on time.

Interesting.
Mine is fair except for few short outages I experienced few days ago. I used another isp during the period and it worked fine. I'm not sure about speed though. I watch videos or listen to audios occasionally and their download speeds are fair.

I guess in this situation what is important is that those who don't do very useful things with the internet reduce the amount of time they spend on the internet doing those things,so that those who do very useful things can spend more time doing them well.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on October 22, 2020, 08:01:04 AM

I think even if players are afraid of getting a virus, they have no choice but to take a risk than to starve to death since they also need income. Also, I think we are mostly just afraid at the beginning of this pandemic but now, we are slowly adapting and continue living with a new normal setup.

We can see sports events are now starting to reopen and players just need to be extra careful with their health and to prevent getting a virus especially if they are already scheduled to have a match.

With the new normal, many people, not just the player adapt to a new habit, always follow every health protocol from the government. We are afraid of the virus, but we need to do something if we want to survive. If the players can protect themselves in the field or the public area, they don't have to worry.

If they can take care of themselves, we will see the number of players who get infected will reduce because they can know how to adapt to the new normal, and they must do.

Soon, many sports will re-open, and even if there is no audience, it doesn't matter because after the vaccine can distribute to people and the Covid-19 end, the audience can come to the stadium and watch their favorite teams or players.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 21, 2020, 09:53:52 PM

The pandemic surely has a huge effect on the whole sports industry. You have mentioned most of the key points, home-court advantage plays a huge role when playing, audiences have a huge impact on players. Most athletes are hesitant to go back to playing due to the risk of getting infected even with careful screening the risk is still present. The fear of corona hits the sports industry real hard. Some athletes gamble on playing on leagues since they also have to earn money.

Some sports and matches had been affected due to it and many events had got cancelled as well. Good thing is that slowly it is back, and people can watch their live sports, teams or players and enjoy the game. Risk still exists, and players may be little stressed about it, but the show must go on and with some changes it is being conducted.

I think even if players are afraid of getting a virus, they have no choice but to take a risk than to starve to death since they also need income.

That's more likely the reason. Players of different sports are believed to be rich especially those who are being broadcasted in televisions and other means of platforms but sad to say, not all players do earn that much. It has been more than seven months since the pandemic. And everyone should continue their career. If almost everything is trying to move forward, those who will choose not to will be more likely left behind. Despite of the risks everyone should continue.
But I wonder, will organization of different leagues I think be held responsible if they would pursue continuation, if players are endangered, or not? Hoping things won't be worsen from now.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 21, 2020, 09:53:52 PM

The pandemic surely has a huge effect on the whole sports industry. You have mentioned most of the key points, home-court advantage plays a huge role when playing, audiences have a huge impact on players. Most athletes are hesitant to go back to playing due to the risk of getting infected even with careful screening the risk is still present. The fear of corona hits the sports industry real hard. Some athletes gamble on playing on leagues since they also have to earn money.

Some sports and matches had been affected due to it and many events had got cancelled as well. Good thing is that slowly it is back, and people can watch their live sports, teams or players and enjoy the game. Risk still exists, and players may be little stressed about it, but the show must go on and with some changes it is being conducted.

I think even if players are afraid of getting a virus, they have no choice but to take a risk than to starve to death since they also need income. Also, I think we are mostly just afraid at the beginning of this pandemic but now, we are slowly adapting and continue living with a new normal setup.

We can see sports events are now starting to reopen and players just need to be extra careful with their health and to prevent getting a virus especially if they are already scheduled to have a match.

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Quote from: sempak on October 19, 2020, 01:04:46 AM

Yes the case in pandemic might change the score and affect the game play of the team. Just like your example with the only goal keeper left which could really affect the game since he would likely forced to play throughout the game and without any rest this might change his performance and so would affect the score and will affect the sports betting.

It worked well with NBA, I don't know if it works with other sports but if that is the case I think that would be really hard. But it is the pandemic and I don't think it would resume completely with these kinds of handicaps. It might be something that happened because of coincidence or maybe we can say tha this pandemic really affected the sports.

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Quote from: ice098 on October 22, 2020, 06:31:42 AM

This pandemic affects almost all aspects of life of people from career, financial aspects and even economic growth of each every nation were totally affected. So not impossible even in the world of gambling and sports. For the seek to stop the spread of virus, we have required by our own government to stay at home being in quarantine, distance ourselves from other to keep us safe from infections of virus but this also left sporty people no choice but to stop their training and we all know how important training was for an athlete. The worst case if an sports was made of a team, then one of the player being tested positive this well probably affect the game of the team.

There's no reason to stop gambling at this point, we have been developing various techniques to the point that online gambling casinos are now prevalent these days. Though instead of going outside and watching live casino games particularly sports betting, it is better to use your computer or device to bet online. I can say, there are sports betting game that is available to be streamed, in addition, Esports is also easy to watch. If we don't like sports betting, then try to search for provably fair casinos that use cryptocurrencies. I can say, gambling in this generation is way better than physical gambling in terms of reliability because the underlying logic or codes for the game is transparent and verifiable. Lastly, it could lessen the transmission of the virus to 0%.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 21, 2020, 11:27:54 PM

We can't take it from what is happening mate because this pandemic really affects everything in Life and not only in gambling world.

Players are being infected or afraid being one so they tend to go for quarantine and the best players sometimes are the one who are missing the game.

But this not talks generally because scores in other sportsbetting does not affected in this case like Boxing .

On the contrary though, this pandemic as also affected boxing as athletes can't train fully because of so many hurdles due to it and that's why boxing upsets could happen? I just think of this situation, although physically they are tough as nails, but inside they might be suffering and it will just manifest when they fight and loss specially if they are the favorites.

This pandemic affects almost all aspects of life of people from career, financial aspects and even economic growth of each every nation were totally affected. So not impossible even in the world of gambling and sports. For the seek to stop the spread of virus, we have required by our own government to stay at home being in quarantine, distance ourselves from other to keep us safe from infections of virus but this also left sporty people no choice but to stop their training and we all know how important training was for an athlete. The worst case if an sports was made of a team, then one of the player being tested positive this well probably affect the game of the team.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 21, 2020, 11:27:54 PM

We can't take it from what is happening mate because this pandemic really affects everything in Life and not only in gambling world.

Players are being infected or afraid being one so they tend to go for quarantine and the best players sometimes are the one who are missing the game.

But this not talks generally because scores in other sportsbetting does not affected in this case like Boxing .

On the contrary though, this pandemic as also affected boxing as athletes can't train fully because of so many hurdles due to it and that's why boxing upsets could happen? I just think of this situation, although physically they are tough as nails, but inside they might be suffering and it will just manifest when they fight and loss specially if they are the favorites.

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There's been lots of discussion on the pandemic here, thanks for that! I wanted to raise another question which is of interest to me, but apparently not to the forum moderators because when I created a topic about it, it got deleted. The question is about the pandemic and predictability. I believe the pandemic makes matches less predictable, and thus betting is riskier. Some others, however, mentioned that perhaps the matches are more predictable and that the bets are safer (this was arguable the case I described in the original post in this thread, since Ukraine was probably going to lose, but with a weaker team it was definitely going to lose). So at least the outcome was more predictable. Do you think there's a tendency with predictability, or is there no significant difference?

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Quote from: dimonstration on October 19, 2020, 07:28:45 AM

Internet connection is a big problem now since many started to use Internet every seconds now during these Pandemic new normal since many are into online activities now might be for online schooling, Work from home jobs, online businesses and etc.that will affects also the online gambling and betting especially those live ones. Dota2 and Mobile Legends Tournament can have Internet problem and issue if Internet provider been having a connection problem due to bulk users and these games or any live casino or betting games is really in need to find a stable Internet provider to solve these issues.

I can relate, I have to change to two internet providers and check who can give the best speed in my location, people who wants a good speed here in my location should not opt to broadband and instead go for Fiber, I've been using broadband for the past six years and when many people now are online it reduced my speed I have no choice but to switch to Fiber, now I'm back to my old desired speed I can bet in ral time without lagging and do my online works and finish it on time.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 21, 2020, 09:53:52 PM

The pandemic surely has a huge effect on the whole sports industry. You have mentioned most of the key points, home-court advantage plays a huge role when playing, audiences have a huge impact on players. Most athletes are hesitant to go back to playing due to the risk of getting infected even with careful screening the risk is still present. The fear of corona hits the sports industry real hard. Some athletes gamble on playing on leagues since they also have to earn money.

This is part of the problem. Sometimes I wonder if they are taking the risk to entertain their fan or it's for the sake of the money or both. I wouldnt mind if they are taking the risk for the sake of the fans, as long as they follow the safety rules/protocol.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 21, 2020, 09:53:52 PM

The pandemic surely has a huge effect on the whole sports industry. You have mentioned most of the key points, home-court advantage plays a huge role when playing, audiences have a huge impact on players. Most athletes are hesitant to go back to playing due to the risk of getting infected even with careful screening the risk is still present. The fear of corona hits the sports industry real hard. Some athletes gamble on playing on leagues since they also have to earn money.

Well life must go on even with different way.

This kind pandemic occurred once in a century, noone can expect this coming though.
The most affected sports for me personally it's football where a lot surprises happened, the one who usually had 1.5 multiplier gets more than 50% to win now dropped to 40 even 30% due the unexpected results that too often hit the market.
It's a benefit for me who in daily routine eyeing an odds more than 3x , it's like i had 50/50 chance now lol.

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