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legendary
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loving what you are doing here chrysophylax, I think having a thread for this is great. keep it up man  Smiley

much appreciated for the kudos ...

we will grow this as we can ...

its all about the devs this time - and the community at large can show their appreciation of the hard work that devs have done ...

end of the coming week - we should have the servers running if our supplier has the servers ready ...

we will also have a donation link for us - so that we can at least try and get some support for the costs of all the systems ...

but for the moment - its on us Wink ...

#crysx
full member
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loving what you are doing here chrysophylax, I think having a thread for this is great. keep it up man  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1091
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yes i use different btc addresses per project to understand better the source when i get something... Wink i guess you can check the block chain to see there was not a lot...

1AJdfCpLWPNoAMDfHF1wD5y8VgKSSTHxPo - possibly Wink ...

so would you like me to add this address as your donation address - or the address in your sig? ...

up to you mate ...

and your name actually is tanguy pruvot? ...

ill put that also if this is correct ...

tanx ...

#crysx
legendary
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ccminer/cpuminer developer
yes i use different btc addresses per project to understand better the source when i get something... Wink i guess you can check the block chain to see there was not a lot...
legendary
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i dont need to think much the miners i have are fewble for this i mean only sha 256 miners and good mhs scrypt miners can do the job im a bit out for this but i consider this porpuse good if done 1 year ago for scrypt was like aGPU profitable

we believe quite the opposite ...

we believe that it is STILL a good thing to donate to the devs that are STILL making a difference to the community ...

ALL of them ...

we couldnt do what we are doing in the mining community without them - period! ...

a great deal of the algos that are STILL in use and are STILL being used for mining ( with some being a lot more profitable to that end ) with these devs developing and optimizing for the community ( and it is a HUGE community ) of gpu miners ...

thank you for the positive comment on it being a good purpose - but we believe these devs need all the help they can get NOW - not just a year ago ...

unless of course you are saying that YOU would have been better to have donated via mining donation a year ago Wink ...

tanx ...

#crysx
sr. member
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i dont need to think much the miners i have are fewble for this i mean only sha 256 miners and good mhs scrypt miners can do the job im a bit out for this but i consider this porpuse good if done 1 year ago for scrypt was like aGPU profitable
legendary
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Merit: 1091
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oh, i finally see my name :p but no incoming transactions Wink

hehehe ... the servers have yet to be commissioned - but i have been given the go ahead for them on or after the 30th ...

and as stated - the supplier can only allow another two servers by the the 30th ...

but it will only be a matter of time when they move their vps system to a new datacenter - and thats probably when they can commission a few more servers for us ...

tpruvot is epsylon3 - yes? ...

is there any info we can access from you - that would help a great deal ...

in your sig is your donation btc address - now for your thread here on bct ( if you have a unique one specifically for your fork of ccminer ) and / or website and git ( we already have your git address if you are tpruvot ) ...

i personally used your miner when i first started in mining with cpu - yes cpu - and then ccminer for older nvidia cards ... have grown a lot more than that now Wink ...

which is one of the main reasons we wanted to give back - or at least do our part to give back - to the devs that have helped us and the community in general ...

without you guys - we would have mediocre miners and mediocre algos with mediocre results ...

good times ahead Smiley ...

tanx ...

#crysx
legendary
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ccminer/cpuminer developer
oh, i finally see my name :p but no incoming transactions Wink
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
hi all ...

a little update ...

we have been notified a couple of days ago that only two new servers can be commissioned for now by the supplier ...

this is still quite good news as this means we can now commission a total of 3 servers for the donation mining systems - while we wait for the rest to go online ...

the news that we have received is that the migration to the new datacenter is going slowly but surely - and so the two new vps systems can be online about 30th june 2015 ... we are definitely looking forward to this ...

in the meanwhile - there is no particular order to the developers with which we will be placing on the donation list ...

our farm comprises of two parts - amd and nvidia ...

as stated - the nvidia side uses ccminer-spmod as the dominant miner ... the amd side uses sgminer with wolfs x11 binaries ( due to the fact that granitecoin is x11 based ) ...

from time to time there are others that are used - but those are the main miners ...

we did start with sp as the test donation links - as we use ccminer spmod with the nvidia part of the the farm - and so we believe it would be fair to say that sp will be on the first server ( which was originally the test server - so he is already setup - just port changes will be required ) ...

so ...

the first server we would like to commission the donation system to sp ...
the second second server wolf0 ...
the third to djm34 ...

as the fourth and fifth ( and so on ) servers come online - we would like have the systems commissioned by the vote of the community ...

the first three will happen this week - which means the servers will be online and the op updated with all the details we can gather about the devs by the end of the week coming ( ie - sunday 5th july 2015 adelaide australia time ) ...

if you ( the user - the miner - the viewer ) have a preference to a developer ( or developers ) that you would like to see for the donation links ( and also on the website when it eventually comes online ) - please comment your suggestions with the links to the developers bitcointalk thread and github link and their btc donation address ... any and all details would be welcome ...

please let us know your preference to the algorithms that you would like to mine as a donation also ...

currently we have active - x11 x13 x15 neoscrypt lyra2re quark ... all on different ports ...

depending on the community suggestions - we can change and / or make permanent the different algos - keeping in mind that a maximum of 7 algos on the one server will be the limit ...

we do have a list of devs that we would like to add - but we can only go so fast and spend so much on servers for the project ... which means it will happen on a slower basis than we would like ... but it will happen ...

if any of the devs have any input - it would be very much appreciated ... please comment here - or pm me - or email me at [email protected] - or irc #granitecoin ...

tanx ...

#crysx
legendary
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hi all ...

apologies for the downtime ...

a little system issue with the current vps for the donation links caused the links to stop working ...

the vps seemed to have a spat and locked the java threads that run the proxies ...

all good now ...

will look more indepth at them tomorrow - and figure a workaround for the automatic reset of the stratum proxies for such an event...

we are also running through these donation links ... and had mining idle for a short while also ...

afterall - this is a test system that needs a few bugs worked out Smiley ...

#crysx
legendary
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x15 seems a little flaky lately on the US stratum - which seems a little odd and will notify nicehash soon ...

so far - all of the other links are currently functional as far as we can see ...

will keep an eye on them ...

#crysx

Connection to X15 will be terminated, if there are no orders to work on. Check here https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders&a=6

if the only issue is simply that there are no orders - why does it drop the connection altogether to the proxy? ... why does it not keep it alive and wait for the next order to come in? ...


Stratum protocol does not support connections with no work. Miners would behave unexpectedly if there was no work provided, some may even just idle. We cannot provide work, if there are no orders, because we get work from orders.


yes - i understand that ... and i appreciate the explanation ...

so simply put - dont panic if the connection drops as its going to be due to lack of work Smiley ...

tanx again for clearing that up ...

btw ... the stratum proxy is still on the test stratum for x15 - just for your benefit if you needed it for the hour Smiley ...

#crysx
hero member
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x15 seems a little flaky lately on the US stratum - which seems a little odd and will notify nicehash soon ...

so far - all of the other links are currently functional as far as we can see ...

will keep an eye on them ...

#crysx

Connection to X15 will be terminated, if there are no orders to work on. Check here https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders&a=6

if the only issue is simply that there are no orders - why does it drop the connection altogether to the proxy? ... why does it not keep it alive and wait for the next order to come in? ...


Stratum protocol does not support connections with no work. Miners would behave unexpectedly if there was no work provided, some may even just idle. We cannot provide work, if there are no orders, because we get work from orders.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
x15 seems a little flaky lately on the US stratum - which seems a little odd and will notify nicehash soon ...

so far - all of the other links are currently functional as far as we can see ...

will keep an eye on them ...

#crysx

Connection to X15 will be terminated, if there are no orders to work on. Check here https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders&a=6

tanx ...

i received the instructions for the debug - and i have just finished setting it up as per the instructions ...

it seems the connection is alive and have directed our test miner ( 2 x gigabyte 750ti oc lp ) to mine x15 for the hour using the 2stratum ...

if the only issue is simply that there are no orders - why does it drop the connection altogether to the proxy? ... why does it not keep it alive and wait for the next order to come in? ...

x15 isnt as widely used as others - so its not a be all and end all ... but if these issues do actually exist - then i would have thought that trying to find a resolve would be preferable ...

i hope it is just as simple as you say it is ... that would be such a relief on our end ... Smiley ...

#crysx
hero member
Activity: 588
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x15 seems a little flaky lately on the US stratum - which seems a little odd and will notify nicehash soon ...

so far - all of the other links are currently functional as far as we can see ...

will keep an eye on them ...

#crysx

Connection to X15 will be terminated, if there are no orders to work on. Check here https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders&a=6
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1091
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hi all ...

a small update with regards to the vps systems / servers ...

the company responsible for the provision of the servers have been in touch - and will hear from them again shortly regarding the new vps's ...

which means we will have our own donation links setup soon ... and hopefully have the other servers setup for the donation links to the devs also ...

please do give generously to the awesome devs - whether direct btc or mining ... when the servers come online - or using their btc addresses ...

all this information will be available on the OP in the coming days ... we require all the information we can about each of the devs ...

so if anyone knows ( the dev themselves provide the info please ) their links to - btc address - github - bct thread - social media ( facebook - twitter - etc ) then please pass it on to us here - or pm me direct ...

we also would like to ask which of the devs you would like to see on the list of donation links on the site ...

so far - we have a few in the list - and they are in no specific order ...

- sp
- djm34
- wolf0
- tpruvot
- tsiv
- pallas
- kbomba
- klaust

if there are some devs that anyone would like to see on here - let me know ... and if we can implement the donation links with the systems we currently have ordered - we will put them on also ...

tanx ...

#crysx
legendary
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chrysophylax I personally really appreciate the effort into doing this,....but have some question's / sugesstions

How does this differ at the moment as if you use MinerControl and set it with sp btc adress,...that's the way I've currently chosen to contribute/donate my one gpu, that i'm not using it full time?

will you expand it to all the other devs? and how will it be implemented? If the donator has to change the server address from donate-sp.granitecoin.com to donate-tpruvot .granitecoin.com, then,...we'll nobody is going to use it,...

maybe a solution would be a customized API to pull the correct "price" and let MinerControl do the rest. In order to do that you would need also a web site with a "dev pool" of where donators could vote which dev gets more "votes" and the one with more votes gets the higher price in the API, and offcourse the API has to be time limited according to the votes,...so the adresses of devs are switched fair and square according to the dev pool site,... It's a little bit of complicated but I think it can be done,...by someone who has that kind of experience...and what's even more interesting is if it takes really off then even devs get a direct feedback from the community about their work and therefore also more beer for them Wink

really appreciate your kind words and suggestions and questions ...

just to clarify ... there is no difference to setting the address up in the miner itself ( or through miner control - or any other mining software for that matter ) than setting the btc donation address itself ... except for two main points ( which i suppose DO make it a difference ) ...

1 - when using the donation links - it is completely anonymous to the general public as to who is mining ...
2 - the hashrate is aggregated and as such will produce a larger hashrate on a single miner than many many small miners ...

with this - it allows reduced load on the stratum servers at the pool that you mining at - and creates a single anonymous miner for donation using this aggregated hashrate ...

also - i have found that the idea that even the smallest miner can 'add' to the hashrate and help alongside the medium to larger miners - is something that a lot of people prefer to do ...

its the same analogy as the drop of water in the ocean ... it really means little - unless you realize that billions of drops make that body of water ...

so no matter how small your miner - it is beneficial ( and in some cases - more enticing ... as some miners dont think that their contribution would be much - until it is added to all the others ) to mine with others ...

as for the other devs - YES! ... definitely ...

we would not have the size of farm that we have currently ( apart from my personal investment ) had it not been for the likes of devs - sp - djm34 - wolf0 - tsiv and a few others ...

the issue is more time and money - than facilities ... all this does cost in terms of finances as well as time ... we have the facilities - now to get the hardware / cloud services purchased and active ... which leads us on to the reason the donation link was broken up to names ...

if you mine on the link donate.granitecoin.com with the same ports as above - you will find that it mines at exactly the same place ...

the reason is that the original donation link ( donate.granitecoinx.com - which changed to donate.granitecoin.com when we finally got the domain ) was simply donate.granitecoin.com combined with port of the donation algo ...

the issues that arose with this is two fold ...

1 - the ports were numbered to algo and dev accordingly - but became quite confusing ...
eg - donate.granitecoin.com:7898 and donate.granitecoin.com:7989 for donation to djm34 and sp respectively using x13 and x11 ... it is much easier to remember donate-sp or donate-djm34 or donate-wolf0 than to remember which port each one belongs to on which algo ...

2 - the servers themselves were running out of working space as each stratum proxy takes its chunk of RAM ...
so unless there was a HUGE server running HUGE cores ( 12 would suffice for a large server - with multiple cpu's ) and MASSIVE amounts of RAM - there would be no way of redirecting the link to the right server ...

as a separate server and separate donation link - its easier to manage - as nicehash is also finding out with their new dns reshuffle ...

it also makes it easier for separate servers to use the same ports so that x11 is one port - x13 is another - and so forth - on each of the servers ...

if there is a way to have the ONE donation link - and redirect it to the various ip's of the various servers - then i would be more than happy to implement ...

your idea of an API that supplies the info to the miner is a good one ...

same with the website - though i think the website would be a damn site easier to produce than the api Smiley ...

though the idea sounds like it would be complicated to implement - i think the simpler that we make this ( for the time being anyway ) - the better ... at least until it can be used as a standard - if it ever does ...

so if i understand this correctly ... a voting system via the website that determines which dev - that determines which algo - that mines according to an API that points the miner to the donation address based on the original vote ... wow Smiley ...

a nice algorithm that would be Smiley ... but one which alas - i cannot implement without the help of a dev that can do that ...

as a start though - would anyone know how ( or know anyone that knows how ) to redirect an address based on port? ... ie - single address ( donation.granitecoin.com ) where pot 9797 goes to server xxx.xxx.xxx.1 and port 9897 goes to server xxx.xxx.xxx.2 ...

at the moment they are a-record redirections to server ip's ( the one vps at the moment - until the others come on line )  ...

tanx for you feedback - its much appreciated Smiley ...

#crysx
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chrysophylax I personally really appreciate the effort into doing this,....but have some question's / sugesstions

How does this differ at the moment as if you use MinerControl and set it with sp btc adress,...that's the way I've currently chosen to contribute/donate my one gpu, that i'm not using it full time?

will you expand it to all the other devs? and how will it be implemented? If the donator has to change the server address from donate-sp.granitecoin.com to donate-tpruvot .granitecoin.com, then,...we'll nobody is going to use it,...

maybe a solution would be a customized API to pull the correct "price" and let MinerControl do the rest. In order to do that you would need also a web site with a "dev pool" of where donators could vote which dev gets more "votes" and the one with more votes gets the higher price in the API, and offcourse the API has to be time limited according to the votes,...so the adresses of devs are switched fair and square according to the dev pool site,... It's a little bit of complicated but I think it can be done,...by someone who has that kind of experience...and what's even more interesting is if it takes really off then even devs get a direct feedback from the community about their work and therefore also more beer for them Wink
legendary
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"the devs on the list for implementation on the new servers as they come online are those that have an active interest in the community - and are active within the community ... these links are currently for sp"

yeah you are right... me, epsylon3, Schleicher have absolutely no interest in the community  Roll Eyes

you are definitely one of the ones that is next here djm ...

tpruvot - wolf0 - klaust - just to name a few others ... all the links have been set ( donate-xxx.granitecoin.com ) but are all dedicated and pointed to this one server ( as there is no way of just 'parking' the names ) - which is currently directed to the setup for sp ...

the issue is that the setup of these donation links are dependent on the availability and setup of the servers to hold the stratum proxies ...

i personally have been testing a few here - but there is only so much a single server can hold ( and 6 proxies is currently the max for the servers until the others come through ) ...

which means for every test stratum proxy - i have to knock one off and reset a new one for the test ... that has become something more of a nuisance than a test environment ...

so the new servers are on order and we are hoping to have them on-line by this coming weeks end ...

i can only personally do so much also - with the procurement and setup and organization of all that is necessary to implement these systems ...

with some personal issues that i have needed to take care of immediately - which is why i basically had to go away for two days - it becomes a load that i personally need to take care of a little at a time ... especially on a financial basis ... even though it is self inflicted - i really want to have a system setup to all those ( like you and sp and the others ) that have helped so much ...

so dont worry mate - you are one of the devs that have contributed a great deal to the community and your server has been on order for a few days now ... our farm and those miners that belong great deal of the community have been mining with the developments you have all made FOR the community ... which is what was iterated ...

CURRENTLY - its the sp server ... if you actually highlighted ( and re-iterated them in this post ) the more important parts about this being 'initial' and a 'testing' period - and took note of all that was said in the op djm - it was about setting more donation links for the devs that have helped the community and that are active in the community ... those devs in the opinion of the community as well as myself ... which definitely mean you and the others ...

we really dont mean any disrespect to anyone ... especially the devs ...

i just need to collate the details of the developer addresses and git and bct thread ( if they exist ) ... so your help in that way would be more than beneficial ... as well as the pseudo-names that everyone uses ( i know epsylon3 is tpruvot - but dont know anyone elses pseudo ... like Schleicher - not familiar with the name or pseudo ) ...

but without the servers - nothing can be setup ... and that takes time - especially since its my project and on my shoulders ...

so a little patience - and all will be sorted Smiley ...

im actually quite glad you took notice of this setup ...

we hope it will bring to light to the community at large that devs require support from us all ... the community of miners and the users of the tools that you devs all create - to continue the development of these optimizations and tools ...

in any case - i can do little now - as its very late and i need rest ... im completely worn out unfortunately ...

have a good night mate ...

#crysx
legendary
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"the devs on the list for implementation on the new servers as they come online are those that have an active interest in the community - and are active within the community ... these links are currently for sp"

yeah you are right... me, epsylon3, Schleicher have absolutely no interest in the community  Roll Eyes
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
x15 seems a little flaky lately on the US stratum - which seems a little odd and will notify nicehash soon ...

so far - all of the other links are currently functional as far as we can see ...

will keep an eye on them ...

#crysx
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