Topic: A great idea that is worth to be realized (Read 2287 times)
Please try to describe your idea. Maybe via PM
I am willing to learn to code, and like I said from what I understand our ideas are similar. At the very least I could do promotion marketing graphic design etc...
Ponzi schemes are quite well defined (paying interest/profit from user deposits) - shouldn't be too hard to identify.
Yes and therefore it is not a ponzi scheme.
And it is not meant to be against the users in any sense.
The contact from this thread wasn't me by the way, sad to hear it worked out that way.
Yes it was not you. Haha the point is. He complained about that several coders left him before. Now I know why. OMG. He was nice at first and I was about to create a serious project with him, but then he started to tell me how I have to be. What the hell.. ok that is why the other coders left him too.
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Whether you know it or not you just described a ponzi scheme, but I don't think that is what you intended.
Yes. And if I really described a ponzi scheme, I did not describe my idea correctly.
Ponzi schemes are quite well defined (paying interest/profit from user deposits) - shouldn't be too hard to identify.
You maybe mean that you are potentially acting fraudulent or negligent towards your users or risk running fractional reserve. This by itself is not a Ponzi scheme.
The contact from this thread wasn't me by the way, sad to hear it worked out that way.
You maybe mean that you are potentially acting fraudulent or negligent towards your users or risk running fractional reserve. This by itself is not a Ponzi scheme.
The contact from this thread wasn't me by the way, sad to hear it worked out that way.
Whether you know it or not you just described a ponzi scheme, but I don't think that is what you intended. Actually, I know exactly what you were trying to convey and you are right it is best kept to yourself. I had an idea last night similar to your's and I am still not sure that it is not a ponzi scheme.
Nothing new here?
I got in contact with a user that answered to this thread and we started some projects. Then he literally f...cked me, leaving me loosing yet again and I wasted too much time with him, well I got more smart than before again. So I am back to my idea. But if nobody reacts on this anymore I will take it back to the underground and will develop it to a later point.
I got in contact with a user that answered to this thread and we started some projects. Then he literally f...cked me, leaving me loosing yet again and I wasted too much time with him, well I got more smart than before again. So I am back to my idea. But if nobody reacts on this anymore I will take it back to the underground and will develop it to a later point.
Can you PM the idea to me? I'm interested
I have it as a document on hostedredmine (see post). It is too long for a private message, I think.
Can you PM the idea to me? I'm interested
I am still searching more people and got positive feedback about the idea details so far.
One of them is developing a first version or draft.
I can not be in this every day, but I feel this will be a very good project.
One of them is developing a first version or draft.
I can not be in this every day, but I feel this will be a very good project.
I have published the idea.
Well you have to sign up for project management too, the idea explanation is the first document there.
I did and do not think that these existing solutions are fitable to have such a shared wallet.
Well you have to sign up for project management too, the idea explanation is the first document there.
I did and do not think that these existing solutions are fitable to have such a shared wallet.
Or at least share it (no, I'm not going to sign up somewhere just to read something about it that might or might not be comprehensive...) so people can tell you if it exists already.
You wanted for example this kind of "shared wallet" thingie from the OP - this would have even possible with shares from GLBSE 1.0, which was released in 2011. Right now there are several unregulated stock exchanges denominated in BTC that also offer this possibility and a few decentralized options too to do this (Colored coins, Mastercoins probably soonish, OpenTransactions, Ripple...). The fact that you didn't know about them or at least didn't mention why these are not an option to you seems to me like you don't know your way around bitcoinland that much.
Tl;dr: Show me the money or lurk moar!
You wanted for example this kind of "shared wallet" thingie from the OP - this would have even possible with shares from GLBSE 1.0, which was released in 2011. Right now there are several unregulated stock exchanges denominated in BTC that also offer this possibility and a few decentralized options too to do this (Colored coins, Mastercoins probably soonish, OpenTransactions, Ripple...). The fact that you didn't know about them or at least didn't mention why these are not an option to you seems to me like you don't know your way around bitcoinland that much.
Tl;dr: Show me the money or lurk moar!
Then code it. Once people see working code maybe they will believe you are not just another bullshit pie in the sky idea-person/marketer trying to get other people to work for free on some crazy crap idea you think is so great.
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
Well.. no further reactions so far? I should enjoy the sun today but the idea is not getting out of my head.
I will tell you my idea and you get 100 years of free mind hosting in the blockchain and you tell me your idea and give me 10% share.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/futuristic-project-upload-your-brain-in-a-blockchain-291020
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/futuristic-project-upload-your-brain-in-a-blockchain-291020
lol. Nice idea, but I do not think "mind uploading" would work at all as I think the mind is not restricted or enclosed by the brain organ. They are talking about saving the information that is stored in brain cells. This is only a part of what we call mind or consciousness. The pure information of what was in this part of the mind would not be very functional without "us", the spirit of that mind information. Sure, we might be able to copy some information that are stored in the brain cells, but I can not call this mind.
All interested users, please register at https://www.hostedredmine.com/account/register and tell me (better as a private message) the username or your real name so I can add you to the members list of the project management. Then you can access the first document in the project which tells about the idea in some detail (about 7 kB text).
Since you supposedly can program, how about programming your actual real what it does part yourself and worry about all the marketing and distracting images and fonts and window dressing and wallpaper stuff later? If your fundamental concept is actually good and useful you will get a dedicated core group of users who find it indispensible enough that they won't care that it is ugly as sin and extremely hard to use and full of bugs because they need it now and/or they see its potential.
I am just giving the change to participate from day one on and I listed what will be needed as far as a can imagine or know. For sure the packaging and fluffy stuff comes at the end.So far it sounds like you don't even have the skills to operate a simple "have and manage users" membership site so seem to think such things do not exist so need to be created from scratch just for you; other than not being able to operate any existing membership site or adapt one all you are about seems to be flim flam window-dressing marketing no actual underlying core algortihms or data processing or even business model or business process at all...
So it sounds like yet another "if you get them to come it will somehow then be possible to build it" idea-person bullshit.
So it sounds like yet another "if you get them to come it will somehow then be possible to build it" idea-person bullshit.
No. It is not. I just mentioned what needs to be done first. You are right things need to be done from scratch. It did not write any line of code yet, because I will not be able to create this project alone and by myself. It is going to be too big.
Since you supposedly can program, how about programming your actual real what it does part yourself and worry about all the marketing and distracting images and fonts and window dressing and wallpaper stuff later? If your fundamental concept is actually good and useful you will get a dedicated core group of users who find it indispensible enough that they won't care that it is ugly as sin and extremely hard to use and full of bugs because they need it now and/or they see its potential.
So far it sounds like you don't even have the skills to operate a simple "have and manage users" membership site so seem to think such things do not exist so need to be created from scratch just for you; other than not being able to operate any existing membership site or adapt one all you are about seems to be flim flam window-dressing marketing no actual underlying core algortihms or data processing or even business model or business process at all...
So it sounds like yet another "if you get them to come it will somehow then be possible to build it" idea-person bullshit.
-MarkM-
So far it sounds like you don't even have the skills to operate a simple "have and manage users" membership site so seem to think such things do not exist so need to be created from scratch just for you; other than not being able to operate any existing membership site or adapt one all you are about seems to be flim flam window-dressing marketing no actual underlying core algortihms or data processing or even business model or business process at all...
So it sounds like yet another "if you get them to come it will somehow then be possible to build it" idea-person bullshit.
-MarkM-
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We need a sort of a shared wallet. I do not know if something like this exists.
If not, we need to develop it first.
A shared wallet would mean that everyone can deposit some Bitcoins and then the wallet saves this new proportion in relation to the new balance and that everyone can withdraw his proportion again.
For example when the balance is 0.1 BTC (I think we do not need to set hard limits here, maybe same limits so the transaction fees will not be so expensive) and someone deposits 0.05 BTC this would be a proportion of 33.3% of the new balance which would be 0.15 BTC. When this person wants to get his share back and the balance raised to 1.5 BTC because we made profit this person gets out 33.3% of it: 0.4995 BTC - so about 10 times, there is a rounding error with 33.333333..., but you understand the principle. Everyone gets his or her percentual share from the balance, no matter how high it is. If the balance falls down to 0.015 BTC for some unreal reason the person would be able to withdraw 33.3% of it too: 0.004995 BTC. This is nothing new, but I did not see it for Bitcoins yet and we will require it for getting this project funded.
I welcome better ideas about the shared wallet.
I have an idea to share with you.We need a sort of a shared wallet. I do not know if something like this exists.
If not, we need to develop it first.
A shared wallet would mean that everyone can deposit some Bitcoins and then the wallet saves this new proportion in relation to the new balance and that everyone can withdraw his proportion again.
For example when the balance is 0.1 BTC (I think we do not need to set hard limits here, maybe same limits so the transaction fees will not be so expensive) and someone deposits 0.05 BTC this would be a proportion of 33.3% of the new balance which would be 0.15 BTC. When this person wants to get his share back and the balance raised to 1.5 BTC because we made profit this person gets out 33.3% of it: 0.4995 BTC - so about 10 times, there is a rounding error with 33.333333..., but you understand the principle. Everyone gets his or her percentual share from the balance, no matter how high it is. If the balance falls down to 0.015 BTC for some unreal reason the person would be able to withdraw 33.3% of it too: 0.004995 BTC. This is nothing new, but I did not see it for Bitcoins yet and we will require it for getting this project funded.
I welcome better ideas about the shared wallet.
Let us exchange some shares in our projects.
I will tell you my idea and you get 100 years of free mind hosting in the blockchain and you tell me your idea and give me 10% share.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/futuristic-project-upload-your-brain-in-a-blockchain-291020
it uses windows servers in the backend.
LOL. No it will use linux servers.
Yes you are right that any idea that can be copied will be copied. This one will copied, especially when it works well.
Ok I need to make a closed/private group and invite interested people in it and there I will get in detail. Maybe you just say "oh this is the worst idea ever" or you see how genius it is. It is based on how I see things, therefore it is unique and that is why I call it the idea of my life.
I think most people if not all have such a "idea of life" or more, but a lot do not manage to turn it into reality.
Again I should underline that I am not making it for profit, but it could become very profitable. There is potential because most people do not see the world like I do and are in a non-awareness box about what is obvious for me. I think most will be stunned about the idea. At least when they fully understand it.
I am looking for some webpage to create such a group.
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I can not tell the idea yet, because we would have to hurry the development to be the very first to start such a service after the idea would have been revealed.
All I can say about the idea is that people will be able to invest (Bitcoins) there and can make profit by buying and selling again.
I will be kinda a new market which never existed before and is all about the right time and right decisions like on the forex market for example to make profits.
So the idea is to provide a service for this. Therefore it will be a serious service, not a ponzi scheme like HYIP or something. Despite the fact that users will be
able to make high investments. I think we should offer different scales. So a scale for 1-999 mBTC, a scale for 1-99 BTC or so, a scale for satoshis or even more scales. Then people can invest (and trade) low, but very high too. But it will not be just market trading. At least not assets trading at all.
I can not get into detail yet.
All I can say about the idea is that people will be able to invest (Bitcoins) there and can make profit by buying and selling again.
I will be kinda a new market which never existed before and is all about the right time and right decisions like on the forex market for example to make profits.
So the idea is to provide a service for this. Therefore it will be a serious service, not a ponzi scheme like HYIP or something. Despite the fact that users will be
able to make high investments. I think we should offer different scales. So a scale for 1-999 mBTC, a scale for 1-99 BTC or so, a scale for satoshis or even more scales. Then people can invest (and trade) low, but very high too. But it will not be just market trading. At least not assets trading at all.
I can not get into detail yet.
Any idea that can be copied will be copied. By Keeping it a secret your convincing me its a ponzi scheme or worst, it uses windows servers in the backend. No thanks you , Sir !
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