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Topic: A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [Last Update: 04/14/2020] (Read 5824 times)

newbie
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Although I'm from the Philippines, I'll be happy if you banned the Philippines from your campaigns you manage. You know why this is too much for the forum (community). Trust me this is not the only person doing the same thing in the Philippines. I know some people doing this thing but I'm too lazy to investigate, to post, and having a hard time constructing sentences (Like this one) LOL. And some of these abusers are already in the DT 2.
Banning the Philippines community from campaigns would not be a nice thing to do. Despite a few members who have cheated signature campaigns with alts, i believe there are genuine, honest members too and they should not be punished because of a few bad characters.

This forum is a free place and just because we have a few bad individuals doesn't mean every one has ill intentions here.

If you know anyone who's abusing campaigns or DT then bring them forth without fear or favor. There's nothing to be scared about. Even if you present a little evidence, some members will have you dig deeper to prove if the person is doing something wrong.

There are users some are signature designers, xlays knew it well since he knew. Blackmamba is just one.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1512
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My Oh My. I've been here for more than 2 years already and this is the biggest farm of Bitcointalk accounts I've ever seen.

Nah, found some bigger scammers in the past

THE SCAMMER Guinness world record on bitcointalk 1 man 1000 accounts 150k+ usd!
1 man, 100 accounts NEED DT abusing signature/ facebook bounties
19 ACCOUNTS/alts signature abusers + 1460 accounts for airdrop, Need DT
Another huge scammer 612 Accounts 50k$


Same of them were Filipinos too, maybe they are the same guy-organization Huh

Anyway, I'm also tagging them all now cause you knowDT rotations, the more DT will tag them the better it will be.
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Activity: 2016
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Although I'm from the Philippines, I'll be happy if you banned the Philippines from your campaigns you manage. You know why this is too much for the forum (community). Trust me this is not the only person doing the same thing in the Philippines. I know some people doing this thing but I'm too lazy to investigate, to post, and having a hard time constructing sentences (Like this one) LOL. And some of these abusers are already in the DT 2.
Banning the Philippines community from campaigns would not be a nice thing to do. Despite a few members who have cheated signature campaigns with alts, i believe there are genuine, honest members too and they should not be punished because of a few bad characters.

This forum is a free place and just because we have a few bad individuals doesn't mean every one has ill intentions here.

If you know anyone who's abusing campaigns or DT then bring them forth without fear or favor. There's nothing to be scared about. Even if you present a little evidence, some members will have you dig deeper to prove if the person is doing something wrong.
jr. member
Activity: 48
Merit: 7
I don't know if i'll actually ban users from your country, but you see how your actions could hurt others living in the same lifestyle as yourself?

Although I'm from the Philippines, I'll be happy if you banned the Philippines from your campaigns you manage. You know why this is too much for the forum (community). Trust me this is not the only person doing the same thing in the Philippines. I know some people doing this thing but I'm too lazy to investigate, to post, and having a hard time constructing sentences (Like this one) LOL. And some of these abusers are already in the DT 2.

LOL that would be racism to your race. No youre not Philipino.
Realize that most Philipinos speaks english more unlike any others, there are lots of them in this forum. If you compare to Indian section, they are lesser ACCORDING TO ME.   Grin
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I don't know if i'll actually ban users from your country, but you see how your actions could hurt others living in the same lifestyle as yourself?

Although I'm from the Philippines, I'll be happy if you banned the Philippines from your campaigns you manage. You know why this is too much for the forum (community). Trust me this is not the only person doing the same thing in the Philippines. I know some people doing this thing but I'm too lazy to investigate, to post, and having a hard time constructing sentences (Like this one) LOL. And some of these abusers are already in the DT 2.
full member
Activity: 1028
Merit: 144
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Im waiting for Bitcoin_Arena to verify and support me that im not part of this.
Hey @Bitcoinislife09 and @Kong Hey Pakboy There is no need to be alarmed. Your issue can be resolved anytime through removal of feedback that was left and support for the flag. The List is large and it was probably a slight mistake by @Cheater Detector

Checking your posting histories, I believe both of you are part of the Philippines community and exposing this massive campaign abuse should be good news to you and the Philippines community at large. Polar91 cheated in many contests and campaigns denying most of you any chance of even fair competition.

I cross checked your accounts and there is no reason to believe they are connected to Polar91's farm. The reason @Cheater Detector probably listed you was because;

1. Bitcoinislife09

- A couple of merits from Polar91
- Posted in the FREE RAFFLE- Easter Giveaway. COLDKEY PROTOTYPE thread

This is just 2 out of the 5 parameters i used.

A. The posting style is different from that of Polar91's alts which includes posting gaps and making the first posts in the famous █ ★☆★777Coin★☆★ █ ✔ Full Range of Games ✔ Instant Withdraw ✔ Free mBTC! Thread.

B. Password change patterns are also different according to BPIP.org

C. The bitcoin addresses used by Bitcoinislife09 as early as 2017 (in 2017 polar91 was busy farming his alts by participating in games and rounds contents) are not related to either of the HD wallets that polar91 and his alts Used. I believe if it was Polar91's alt, Bitcoinislife09 would have been busted in the first batch through address connection.

Btctalk name: Bitcoinislife09
Rank: Member
Current post count: 98
BTC Address: 38GWXHgtSNWYJVmHKVdHHpSsThrPFEGnjn
Wear appropriate signature: Yes
Thank You for making this clear! Great Job exposing this alts.


Thank You, @Lauda.
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Hey @Bitcoinislife09 and @Kong Hey Pakboy There is no need to be alarmed. Your issue can be resolved anytime through removal of feedback that was left and support for the flag. The List is large and it was probably a slight mistake by @Cheater Detector
I really thank you sir @Bitcoin_Arena for making all of this clear that i am completely not a part of  Polar91's farm accounts.
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Activity: 2016
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Hey @Bitcoinislife09 and @Kong Hey Pakboy There is no need to be alarmed. Your issue can be resolved anytime through removal of feedback that was left and support for the flag. The List is large and it was probably a slight mistake by @Cheater Detector

Checking your posting histories, I believe both of you are part of the Philippines community and exposing this massive campaign abuse should be good news to you and the Philippines community at large. Polar91 cheated in many contests and campaigns denying most of you any chance of even fair competition.

I cross checked your accounts and there is no reason to believe they are connected to Polar91's farm. The reason @Cheater Detector probably listed you was because;

1. Bitcoinislife09

- A couple of merits from Polar91
- Posted in the FREE RAFFLE- Easter Giveaway. COLDKEY PROTOTYPE thread

This is just 2 out of the 5 parameters i used.

A. The posting style is different from that of Polar91's alts which includes posting gaps and making the first posts in the famous █ ★☆★777Coin★☆★ █ ✔ Full Range of Games ✔ Instant Withdraw ✔ Free mBTC! Thread.

B. Password change patterns are also different according to BPIP.org

C. The bitcoin addresses used by Bitcoinislife09 as early as 2017 (in 2017 polar91 was busy farming his alts by participating in games and rounds contents) are not related to either of the HD wallets that polar91 and his alts Used. I believe if it was Polar91's alt, Bitcoinislife09 would have been busted in the first batch through address connection.

Btctalk name: Bitcoinislife09
Rank: Member
Current post count: 98
BTC Address: 38GWXHgtSNWYJVmHKVdHHpSsThrPFEGnjn
Wear appropriate signature: Yes



2. Kong Hey Pakboy

Probably listed by cheator detector because of;
- A couple of merits from Polar91 and a few alts
- Posted in the [GAME CONTEST]--💰🎁PREDICTION PRICE OF BTC in Q4🎁💰-- One of Polar91's favorite threads.

Just like Bitcoinislife09.

A.  The posting style is different from that of Polar91's alts.  No familiar posting gaps and not first first posts were made in the famous █ ★☆★777Coin★☆★ █ ✔ Full Range of Games ✔ Instant Withdraw ✔ Free mBTC! Thread.

B. Password change patterns are also different from Polar91 and alts according to BPIP.org

C. The bitcoin address used by Kong Hey Pakboy as early as 2017 (in 2017 polar91 was busy farming his alts by participating in games and rounds contents) is not related to either of the HD wallets that polar91 and his alts Used.

Just like Bitcoinislife09, Kong Hey Pakboy has earlier applications in campaign such as this that have not been deleted. Polar91 deleted all Signature Campaign applications made by his alts so as to avoid the remaining alts from getting busted. He didn't know that Google cache is there.

Bitcoin Talk Name: Kong Hey Pakboy
Bitcoin Talk Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kong-hey-pakboy-963953
Rank: Member
Post Count (including this post): 67
Your Login on https://uttoken.io: KongHeyPakboy
ETH address: 0xFa1057937AAef3adE10eD7Bc3AD2ad1022F1FC27
BTC address: 39b7MuaQGrW18CKWqKr2yeuktggwEpdK31
legendary
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Addresses are NOT generated by “simply” adding a counter:  The counter (index i in the standard) is run through HMAC-SHA512, together with data that are not available from blockchain transaction data.  Can you invert HMAC-SHA512?

You are right of course, the addresses are not generated by simply adding 1. I wanted to describe it as high level as possible, that's why I annotated it with "simply put".
That there is more behind it shows the image and the article linked by me. Sorry if this confused anyone.

There are ways that blockchain analysis companies can infer addresses to be part of the same HD wallet.  Those who use proper privacy practices are immune to this.  For example, you will never be able to correlate the addresses in my HD wallets.  BIP 32 itself does not have any privacy problems.
You are right (part #2), thats what I meant with "backtracing". Backtracing in the sense of the tree structure is of course wrong, meaning that under certain circumstances the addresses can be "traced back" to an owner, as it happened here. Thanks for clarification. I am out-of-merits, will merit you as soon as possible.
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At the left hand side you see the master key, all adresses are derived from this master key (simply put by adding a counter). Tools like walletexplorer.com are capable of backtracing adresses to their master seed.

Incorrect.  You CANNOT backtrace addresses to a master seed.  Addresses are NOT generated by “simply” adding a counter:  The counter (index i in the standard) is run through HMAC-SHA512, together with data that are not available from blockchain transaction data.  Can you invert HMAC-SHA512?

Please do not spread grossly wrong technical misinformation about BIP 32 Hierarchical Deterministic Wallets.

There are ways that blockchain analysis companies can infer addresses to be part of the same HD wallet.  Those who use proper privacy practices are immune to this.  For example, you will never be able to correlate the addresses in my HD wallets.  BIP 32 itself does not have any privacy problems.



P.S., your coinsutra.com link blocks Tor with 403 Forbidden.  I could not review the article that you linked.  I hope that they are not claiming that HD wallet addresses can be “backtraced”!


Edit—with thanks to Lakai01 for the courteous followup:

Perhaps I should not have come off so harshly.  I am undoubtedly a curmudgeon, after too much experience dealing with people who insist on spreading wrong information.  And here, there are real potential consequences to something that came off as FUD on HD wallets.

If newbies see that, and decide to try to figure out how to run an old-fashioned keypool instead of using an HD wallet, then they are at risk of losing money to disk crashes, etc. due to the practical difficulty of keeping up-to-date backups of a non-HD wallet.  And they still will not have privacy:  From a blockchain analyst’s perspective, there is no difference between an HD wallet, and a wallet of addresses from randomly generated keys.

I actually do not know why the site here is referring to an “HD wallet”.  I have seen other explorer sites that simply refer to correlated addresses as “wallets”.

The common ownership heuristics used to do these correlations are quite reliable, outside unusual scenarios.  For someone juggling over a hundred accounts for the purpose of cheating, it would require considerable expertise to avoid getting busted this way.

For obvious reasons, I am not inclined to provide a “how to not get busted” guide on a thread where a cheater was busted with blockchain evidence.  For safety’s sake, however, I will advise people to keep an HD wallet xpub (extended public key, or what Electrum calls a “master public key”) almost as confidential as a private key.  That was not the issue here.  It’s just good general advice—not only for privacy, but also for security insofar as an xpub together with a single non-hardened child address’ private key can be used to recover the corresponding xpriv, and thus all private keys descending from the same “master key”.  BIP 32 explicitly warns about this, and provides hardened derivations for this exact reason.  BIP 32 hardened child keys do NOT have this issue.  —  Aside, I should also remark that an HD wallet is not necessarily generated from mnemonic seed phrases.  BIP 32 itself generates an HD wallet from a pseudorandom binary seed of 128–512 bits.  A seed phrase can be used to generate the input for BIP 32; there are several schemes for secure seed phrases, including BIP 39 and Electrum’s Seed Version System.  A secure seed phrase must be randomly generated according to such a scheme; it is not the same as a “brainwallet”, which is insecure and should never be used.  
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What is this Coinbase HD Wallet? Does HD stands for Hardware Wallet like Trezor?

HD stands for "Hierarchical Deterministic Wallets", they have existed since BIP32 was implemented.
The reason why the addresses could be traced here is that all addresses are derived from a master seed:

Quote
HD is an abbreviation for Hierarchical Deterministic. All HD wallets use 12-word master seed keys. Each time this seed is appended by a counter at the end and is used to derive seemingly unlimited new Bitcoin addresses hierarchically and sequentially.

Since all the address are derived from a single master seed, you only need to worry about backing it up. That’s why it is called Hierarchical Deterministic.

Source

It is easier to understand if you take a look at this picture:



At the left hand side you see the master key, all adresses are derived from this master key (simply put by adding a counter). Tools like walletexplorer.com are capable of backtracing adresses to their master seed.
legendary
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Awesome Bitcoin_Arena. This is really great work we need here. It is almost like Sherlock Holmes.
I do have a question, though. What is this Coinbase HD Wallet? Does HD stands for Hardware Wallet like Trezor?
legendary
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Great effort and kudos to all those putting in effort to keep the forum clean off users like this, (this much alts are just uncalled for and will definitely lead to you just spamming the forum in other to meet minimum post count to be eligible for payment). All connected account that has been report has recieve a negative feedback from me and all flags has also been supported (I think).

PS: Any accused user that's in a signature campaign under my management better resolved this issue if they feel they're innocent before the next payday or that user will miss both outstanding payment and that of this week, (777coin and Bitvest respectively) as highlighted in the terms of the signature.

Feel free to DM, if your innocent has been proven for both feedback and support for flag to be removed.
legendary
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Thanks for awesome investigation Bitcoin_Arena !

Supporting the flags also , will get me to the rest of the flaggs laters .

Also you can see there is some Merit sharing between a lot of the accounts too.
They sended and received all or the most of them from each other !
legendary
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Wow, thank you @Bitcoin_Arena.

I'd supported all.

Deleted my negative trusts for Bitcoinislife09 and Kong Hey Pakboy. I'm going to wait for final reports.
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Hi Good Job to @Bitcoin_Arena Finding this alts. (I just see my account with negative feedback.)

But I'm not part of this large farm.



I'm just mentioned here:


To be review but doesn't provide enough evidence that im already part of this.

Even Bitcoin_Arena excluded me in the list.

Update from the list @cheater detector provided.
On a quick check, Bitcoinislife09 and Kong Hey Pakboy  seem not to be part of the farm based on posting style. I will dig a little deeper to confirm.

Note :
Excluded Bitcoinislife09 and Kong Hey Pakboy till Bitcoin_Arena verify it
Excluded oxidoreductase because has been banned
Will update again in the future
Correct me if I'm wrong listing, missed an account, or etc

Credit to:
@Bitcoin_Arena
@Lauda
@cheater detector

Im waiting for Bitcoin_Arena to verify and support me that im not part of this.
legendary
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Great work @Bitcoin_Arena!
So this is now the 100 accounts that Polar91 said.

Some accounts are also cheating on my Bitcoin prediction contest in our local as the link you've shown. Have you also check in @krogothmanhattan contest thread? I saw they have also cheated that contest. All usernames are all familiar as a Pilipino made.

Ain't know how many of them maintaining those accounts becomes active, maybe they are a group here. To be honest, that is a big shame on us as a Pilipino, including me because I'm a Pilipino too. The reputations of all Pilipinos were staked at it because of the massive forum abuse even though others are legit once, and I think they deserved to get neg tag and have a flag.

I will support the flag too, thank you @Lauda for making a list.

edited: supported all
legendary
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You are all making a big mistake because i'm really not one of Polar91's farm accounts, and my wallet is not the same address with his farm accounts. And as you can see my posting style is not also the same as his farm accounts. I also don't experience to be part some of signature campaigns that he have participated and he abused because i am inactive user for a long time that i am busy in taking care of my family and my studies. I recently check my profile and i saw the red flag, so if you please can you disregard me from being one of his farm accounts because to be honest i am not one of them and remove the flag.
It is trivial to fix this later. Instead of complaining you should be supporting the efforts here. This is not surprising because you are a classic shitposter and do not care about anything else.
legendary
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some people did not understand the meaning of this forum and will hopefully be severely banned from this great place!!!  Angry

this forum is for exchanging information about bitcoin/crypto with many other honest users and to write new posts and it's not for cheating and trying to take away a place in the signature campaign from another users just to be greedy for money...

just my two cents!

nice work and thanks for it Bitcoin_Arena  Smiley
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