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staff
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October 28, 2016, 03:45:13 AM
#58

Thanks for the updates man , I will be closing this topic now then , everyone else could continue the discussion here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16697211
jr. member
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October 27, 2016, 05:39:06 PM
#57
legendary
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August 27, 2016, 01:46:41 PM
#56
Yes, it is conformed as a scam site, site is down, shotev last active was 1 week ago. He locked the signature campaign thread, maybe he scammed huge fund or scammed nothing, so he run away. Hope he got nothing

He got some coins for sure, nothing significant compared to other services but It was something above 4.1 BTC for sure. Last time I checked, there was like 30 active users and 4.1 BTC as "mixed" in the stats of the website (and It was increasing)

Some people (well, in fact, just one guy who is purportedly the accomplice of the scammer, if not the scammer himself) got their coins back after they had been "mixed", so to speak
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August 27, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
#55
Yes, it is conformed as a scam site, site is down, shotev last active was 1 week ago. He locked the signature campaign thread, maybe he scammed huge fund or scammed nothing, so he run away. Hope he got nothing

He got some coins for sure, nothing significant compared to other services but It was something above 4.1 BTC for sure. Last time I checked, there was like 30 active users and 4.1 BTC as "mixed" in the stats of the website (and It was increasing)
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August 27, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
#54
Yes, it is conformed as a scam site, site is down, shotev last active was 1 week ago. He locked the signature campaign thread, maybe he scammed huge fund or scammed nothing, so he run away. Hope he got nothing
legendary
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August 22, 2016, 06:30:59 PM
#53
Yes. And the same registered time as shotev...

shotev - April 11, 2016, 09:51:23 AM
bitevil - April 11, 2016, 09:40:56 AM

I found the third one - onexti. Date Registered: April 11, 2016, 06:47:05 AM

Who is the fourth one?



Whois search, please note the expiry date:

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Whois Information

Domain : liqui.io
Status : Client Updt+Delt Lock
First Registered : 2016-04-26
Expiry : 2017-04-26

NS 1 : alec.ns.cloudflare.com
NS 2 : molly.ns.cloudflare.com

Registered for just one year?
jr. member
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August 22, 2016, 05:44:06 PM
#52
Yes. And the same registered time as shotev...

shotev - April 11, 2016, 09:51:23 AM
bitevil - April 11, 2016, 09:40:56 AM

I found the third one - onexti. Date Registered: April 11, 2016, 06:47:05 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15961612

By the way, if you known any from HybridMixer.com addresses (BTC, LTC, DOGE, ETH & PPC), please post it here, please.
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August 21, 2016, 05:50:32 AM
#51
Now the website is parked via GoDaddy so now we can be 100% sure that this was a scam, they get always smarter doing a signature campaign to scam users  Shocked

Well he makes new tactics so he can scam people and im really wondering that how could people afford to steal anyones money? Maybe they are desperate to get some wealth immediately and let the greed eat there system for the sake of money, i think hybridmixer scamming strategy is newly introduced here so thats why we must be aware for another scam attemp will be happen in the future.
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August 21, 2016, 04:11:13 AM
#50
Now the website is parked via GoDaddy so now we can be 100% sure that this was a scam, they get always smarter doing a signature campaign to scam users  Shocked
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 03:51:11 AM
#49

It has been down since the campaign thread was locked two days ago (or even before that). I checked if it was up a few times yesterday, but to no avail...

This had to be expected
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legendary
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August 20, 2016, 08:00:33 PM
#47
left him a negative trust and a warning should be made by a default trust member tho
too suspicious activity imo
nice catch omega Smiley
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
#46
Btw, Hybridmixer topic in russian local subfotum was closed after some people started to ask about the missing coins
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/del-1589321
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
#45
Guys, what wrong with you? We have no connection with hybridmixer in any kind.
Fix your problems faster and pay to everybody their earned money and everything will be fine.   Wink
Liqui is currently in beta-testing and we have saw messages about it a lot of times, so let's wait a few days before accusing them and hope that everything will be alright.
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August 20, 2016, 08:44:34 AM
#44
Guys, what wrong with you? We have no connection with hybridmixer in any kind.
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 07:35:07 AM
#43

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.


Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

What are you talking about ? 24% interests per year for a damn exchange ?! You can't possibly pay that from fee's you earn because there is no guarantee that
trading fee is larger than the interest you need to pay out. But please, do show me an example of another exchange with such high interest

Though I pretty much I agree with you (24% is too good to be true), but strictly speaking almost all major exchanges out there (if not all) are earning money in a lot of other ways beside just collecting trading fees...

For example, they may earn good interest on lending money to marginal traders

Look on it from profitability side, if the exchange earns a lot of money from trading fee's , why would they waste it on people's interests ?
I'm convinced they use it only to give incentive to people to deposit funds in their exchange.

Should we start another scam accusation (if it hasn't been started already) against this exchange (liqui) until it is too late, given that laiyskylone seems to be involved (mixed up) in both HybridMixer and liqui (through being their supposed owner)?

I think it's about time to rename this thread at least

I think liqui don't have interest to build up some exchance their provably the one they are pushing is the investment interest feature,

So that determine that they are ponzi, maybe they are hiding and making their self as an exchanger to cover up the ponzi scheme that they are doing on that site.

And also I think it is time to rename this thread so people get aware what liqui and hybridmixer bringing up some shaddy business right  here so we can save the future investors money and for people who thinks to do exchange their, i think it is proven now that liqui and hybridmixer got the same owner since hybridmixer are using the btc addy of laiskylone,

Maybe DT should neg tag him so people might aware on dealing with him
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August 20, 2016, 06:34:01 AM
#42
Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

It turns out that they have come to be too greedy and didn't thoroughly think over their wicked tactics. I guess we can safely assume that the whole shebang was supposed to last a little longer so that they could grasp a lot more bitcoins and scam more people. The sig campaign should have run at least up to the first payout...

Though I don't think they were really going to pay out even once
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 06:17:58 AM
#41

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.


Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

What are you talking about ? 24% interests per year for a damn exchange ?! You can't possibly pay that from fee's you earn because there is no guarantee that
trading fee is larger than the interest you need to pay out. But please, do show me an example of another exchange with such high interest

Though I pretty much I agree with you (24% is too good to be true), but strictly speaking almost all major exchanges out there (if not all) are earning money in a lot of other ways beside just collecting trading fees...

For example, they may earn good interest on lending money to marginal traders

Look on it from profitability side, if the exchange earns a lot of money from trading fee's , why would they waste it on people's interests ?
I'm convinced they use it only to give incentive to people to deposit funds in their exchange.

Should we start another scam accusation (if it hasn't been started already) against this exchange (liqui) until it is too late, given that laiyskylone seems to be involved (mixed up) in both HybridMixer and liqui (through being their supposed owner)?

I think it's about time to rename this thread at least
hero member
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August 20, 2016, 06:17:04 AM
#40
I have the feeling that liqui are the same guys, they are working over 48 hours now on the crypto server no withdraws are possible and some users including me not got paid yet for the signature they are running lets hope they are not doing the same, just before this incidence happened i wanted to deposit 1 btc to get interest i am so happy that i have not done it!
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August 20, 2016, 06:03:18 AM
#39

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.


Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

What are you talking about ? 24% interests per year for a damn exchange ?! You can't possibly pay that from fee's you earn because there is no guarantee that
trading fee is larger than the interest you need to pay out. But please, do show me an example of another exchange with such high interest

Though I pretty much I agree with you (24% is too good to be true), but strictly speaking almost all major exchanges out there (if not all) are earning money in a lot of other ways beside just collecting trading fees...

For example, they may earn good interest on lending money to marginal traders

Look on it from profitability side, if the exchange earns a lot of money from trading fee's , why would they waste it on people's interests ?
I'm convinced they use it only to give incentive to people to deposit funds in their exchange.

This is laughable :

Glad to see everything is rolling out fine with the exchange, but i still have some question that are still not answered, if you would be so kind ;

1. What are your revenue sources with which you are planing to pay daily interests ?
2. For what exactly are funds placed on interests used ?

1. They will use 75% of trading fees to cover the interest payments. First year they will pay interest expenses even if there is little or no income from trading fees (up to 200 BTC I think)

2. I'm not sure about this one but I would imagine they are just stored in the exchange account and not used on anything.

Exactly!



So, they claim to use trading fee's (from some ghost traffic i guess) to pay interests , and to use interest funds for ... nothing... awesome !
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