[A Likely SCAM] HybridMixer.com - page 2.

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Quote from: ajareselde on August 20, 2016, 04:30:25 AM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 19, 2016, 07:12:12 PM

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.

Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

What are you talking about ? 24% interests per year for a damn exchange ?! You can't possibly pay that from fee's you earn because there is no guarantee that
trading fee is larger than the interest you need to pay out. But please, do show me an example of another exchange with such high interest

Though I pretty much agree with you (24% is too good to be true), but strictly speaking almost all major exchanges out there (if not all) are earning money in a lot of other ways beside just collecting trading fees...

For example, they may earn good interest on lending money to marginal traders

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 19, 2016, 07:12:12 PM

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.

Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

What are you talking about ? 24% interests per year for a damn exchange ?! You can't possibly pay that from fee's you earn because there is no guarantee that
trading fee is larger than the interest you need to pay out. But please, do show me an example of another exchange with such high interest .

btw can you post tx of your transaction (where you lost 0.1BTC) , could be worth exploring where the money went.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 20, 2016, 02:24:48 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 20, 2016, 01:12:19 AM

In the meantime and for some reasons that I don't understand , people are still advertising this service in their signature even after getting both threads closed + Google spreadsheet deleted. Shocked

People should seriously start using their brains to detect scams ...

EDIT : HybridMixer.com is down as well.

Shucks, they are down now since they're scam attempt has been busted already luckily it was prevented earlier and i hope they didn't scam anybody here, and the second site we must gonna watch now is liqui and i think they are also running a shaddy business to, maybe they are affiliates with hybridmixer or shall we say they have the same owner since they have similarity the way the promote their site and the giveaways they give to their very first promotion

They did scam few people since last time I saw the website because the mixed coins number was rising (like 4.1 BTC or something) and there were few active users as well... It's no big deal compared to other scams but It's still people's money... we are lucky that we exposed them before they could take more.

As for liqui, It indeed looks like something fishy going on there ; I wouldn't recommend people depositing big amounts there unless we make sure they are trustworthy.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 20, 2016, 01:12:19 AM

In the meantime and for some reasons that I don't understand , people are still advertising this service in their signature even after getting both threads closed + Google spreadsheet deleted. Shocked

People should seriously start using their brains to detect scams ...

EDIT : HybridMixer.com is down as well.

Shucks, they are down now since they're scam attempt has been busted already luckily it was prevented earlier and i hope they didn't scam anybody here, and the second site we must gonna watch now is liqui and i think they are also running a shaddy business to, maybe they are affiliates with hybridmixer or shall we say they have the same owner since they have similarity the way the promote their site and the giveaways they give to their very first promotion

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In the meantime and for some reasons that I don't understand , people are still advertising this service in their signature even after getting both threads closed + Google spreadsheet deleted. Shocked

People should seriously start using their brains to detect scams ...

EDIT : HybridMixer.com is down as well.

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1. 100 participants needed on his signature campaign to let everyone know of their existence
2. There are bonuses to be given to use their mixing service
3. No transaction fee until a certain date

Take all of those in consideration and you will smell fish, they are are throwing everything including the kitchen sink just for you to send your coins to them.

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Quote from: mirana12345 on August 19, 2016, 07:03:34 PM

Quote from: uncaer9 on August 19, 2016, 06:52:47 PM

after i posting my review

the thread locked by owner, this is just my opinion who the ownere of hybridmixer :
i want to mix my coin, then run mixing, but after i click mixing i see this address
142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
proof/screenshoot : https://s4.postimg.io/f3qowh4p9/qweq1111.jpg

then i searching more detail about this address im using google + blocktrail i find this :
https://www.google.com/?client=firefox-b#q=142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW/links

the address posted at bitcointalk by laiyskylone at here :
16 days ago
1000 BTC GIVEAWAY! From your friend rekcahxfb
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

then i posted my review at here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15972805

now laiyskylone delete his posting but he don't know i archieve it
see this archieve :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160819123733/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

so i think laiyskylone is the owner of hybridmixer because he delete his posted address for eliminating the tracks.
Thanks

Yeah, he deleted the post in the 1000 btc giveaway, very nice move on archiving it first. There is now no doubt about it that liqui, hybridmixer and those three users
are all scammers. If you take a look in liqui thread, you can clearly see that people are starting to realise they were scamed.
Offering 24% interest rates as an exchange, how did noone catch this and tagged it as ponzi ?

At very first of there existince i really doub't that theres something wrong with there service, and as you can see on liqui they got an interest feature on their site and the question really there where did they get the money to payed out there investor? Big question mark they, so that really determine that site is a ponzi. And secondly when hybridmixer arrive and give the same promotion like liqui gives i really think the two sites have the same owner with the same agenda.

I think those two site are made for scam purposes.

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Quote from: mirana12345 on August 19, 2016, 07:03:34 PM

Quote from: uncaer9 on August 19, 2016, 06:52:47 PM

after i posting my review

the thread locked by owner, this is just my opinion who the ownere of hybridmixer :
i want to mix my coin, then run mixing, but after i click mixing i see this address
142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
proof/screenshoot : https://s4.postimg.io/f3qowh4p9/qweq1111.jpg

then i searching more detail about this address im using google + blocktrail i find this :
https://www.google.com/?client=firefox-b#q=142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW/links

the address posted at bitcointalk by laiyskylone at here :
16 days ago
1000 BTC GIVEAWAY! From your friend rekcahxfb
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

then i posted my review at here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15972805

now laiyskylone delete his posting but he don't know i archieve it
see this archieve :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160819123733/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

so i think laiyskylone is the owner of hybridmixer because he delete his posted address for eliminating the tracks.
Thanks

Yeah, he deleted the post in the 1000 btc giveaway, very nice move on archiving it first. There is now no doubt about it that liqui, hybridmixer and those three users
are all scammers. If you take a look in liqui thread, you can clearly see that people are starting to realise they were scamed.
Offering 24% interest rates as an exchange, how did noone catch this and tagged it as ponzi ?

Do your research before posting. 24% APR isn't an unreasonable rate, and the investor based games section writes that sites with an unreasonably high APR should go there. 24% APR in fiat investments is definitely possible without scamming, which is why it wasn't tagged as a ponzi.

Hopefully laiyskylone didn't scam too many people/a lot of Bitcoin, and that people only put what they could afford to lose in his mixer. Luckily, they didn't decide to build up trust before running away with more funds

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Quote from: uncaer9 on August 19, 2016, 06:52:47 PM

after i posting my review

the thread locked by owner, this is just my opinion who the ownere of hybridmixer :
i want to mix my coin, then run mixing, but after i click mixing i see this address
142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
proof/screenshoot : https://s4.postimg.io/f3qowh4p9/qweq1111.jpg

then i searching more detail about this address im using google + blocktrail i find this :
https://www.google.com/?client=firefox-b#q=142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW/links

the address posted at bitcointalk by laiyskylone at here :
16 days ago
1000 BTC GIVEAWAY! From your friend rekcahxfb
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

then i posted my review at here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15972805

now laiyskylone delete his posting but he don't know i archieve it
see this archieve :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160819123733/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

so i think laiyskylone is the owner of hybridmixer because he delete his posted address for eliminating the tracks.
Thanks

Yeah, he deleted the post in the 1000 btc giveaway, very nice move on archiving it first. There is now no doubt about it that liqui, hybridmixer and those three users
are all scammers. If you take a look in liqui thread, you can clearly see that people are starting to realise they were scamed.
Offering 24% interest rates as an exchange, how did noone catch this and tagged it as ponzi ?

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after i posting my review

the thread locked by owner, this is just my opinion who the ownere of hybridmixer :
i want to mix my coin, then run mixing, but after i click mixing i see this address
142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
proof/screenshoot : https://s4.postimg.io/f3qowh4p9/qweq1111.jpg

then i searching more detail about this address im using google + blocktrail i find this :
https://www.google.com/?client=firefox-b#q=142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW/links

the address posted at bitcointalk by laiyskylone at here :
16 days ago
1000 BTC GIVEAWAY! From your friend rekcahxfb
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

then i posted my review at here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15972805

now laiyskylone delete his posting but he don't know i archieve it
see this archieve :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160819123733/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-btc-giveaway-from-your-friend-rekcahxfb-1574127

so i think laiyskylone is the owner of hybridmixer because he delete his posted address for eliminating the tracks.
Thanks

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It's been over 24 hours since I sent my mixing transaction of 0.1BTC like and idiot, so I would say it is safe to call the website a scam.
@ttargett, I really doubt he was actually going to do and avatar campaign, and was simply using the campaign to get more people to deposit in his scam.

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Quote from: ttargett on August 19, 2016, 03:43:48 PM

I got this pm shotev just before they ran away with people money at 12:44:55 PM forum time:

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You are accepted!
Soon the company opened an avatar

check out our promo action

Terms:

1. We invite all who have 24+ posts.
2. Mix your coin in our hybridmixer.com
3. Write in this thread a short review how this mixing goes, if everything is clear or your suggestions/improvements.
4. PM screenshot where your transaction is visible + your LTC adress.
5. We will pay you 1 LTC +10% your mixed currency.

Limit - 500 LTC.

did he really planned an avatar campaign or did he just want me to try the promo and get scammed, anyone else got it?

As I'm inclined to think, the latter is much more likely. Scammers gonna scam no matter what, but I still give that guy the benefit of doubt, that he didn't fully understand what he had been used as, for, and just plain old used...

And after he finally got it, he miserably ran for cover

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I got this pm shotev just before they ran away with people money at 12:44:55 PM forum time:

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You are accepted!
Soon the company opened an avatar

check out our promo action

Terms:

1. We invite all who have 24+ posts.
2. Mix your coin in our hybridmixer.com
3. Write in this thread a short review how this mixing goes, if everything is clear or your suggestions/improvements.
4. PM screenshot where your transaction is visible + your LTC adress.
5. We will pay you 1 LTC +10% your mixed currency.

Limit - 500 LTC.

did he really planned an avatar campaign or did he just want me to try the promo and get scammed, anyone else got it?

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Quote from: angryswamp on August 19, 2016, 01:40:54 PM

Quote from: Skyripper on August 19, 2016, 01:40:52 PM

Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 01:23:08 PM

Here's an interesting entry in shotev's post history (translation follows)...

So it seems that this user might have been used unwittingly, and he is not the real culprit behind this scheme (or scam, lol)

This is only a manipulation...

Also try to translate the last post of bitevil. It looks like he's the only one who received a payment from the mixer. Cheesy

at least someone gets paid :DDDD

The last post of bitevil (with translation):

Quote from: bitevil on August 18, 2016, 12:57:31 PM

Hy я зaбaxл мнe пpишли пpaвдa c 3-4ч зaдepжкoй нo вpoдe вce нopм

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Well, I threw [some coins] in and I got them back, after a 3 to 4 hour delay, though. Everything kinda seems to be okay

He tried mixing his coins and got them back after a few hour delay. Whether he has been paid remains unknown

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Quote from: Skyripper on August 19, 2016, 01:40:52 PM

Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 12:58:05 PM

These users are evidently two different persons (though affiliated in some way, maybe friends). Shotev's Russian is terribly broken at times (with a lot of spelling mistakes which native speakers usually don't make), while bitevil's language is fluent colloquial, the one you would expect on a forum like this...

Go on with reading their post histories

I only found the same orthographic mistakes and many posts in the same topics

Their writing styles are different, though I have a firm suspicion that someone else had been occasionally posting under shotev's account (especially recent posts), who doesn't speak Russian very well. Just an example of his broken Russian. The specificity of spelling mistakes and the choice of words in the quote below betray a non-Russian speaker (the real shotev's posts don't have such mistakes at all):

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Oнo бyдeт пиcaть тaк пoкa нe нacтyпит 6 пoдтвepждeний этo нe oбeзaтeльнo Bы мoжитe зaкpыть этo oкнo
Пo ycлoвиям пpишлитe cкpиншoт в ПM c тpaнзaкциeй я пpoвepю в cиcтeмe и нaчиcлю 1 LTC

Someone (the mixer's owner?) is promising to credit 1 LTC on the conditions given in the campaign thread

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Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 01:23:08 PM

Quote from: Zoomer on August 19, 2016, 11:25:30 AM

That is really a new level of scam open a signature campaign to convince users the website is legit so they will deposit bitcoins there,

this show us again how carefully you need to be on this forum those days and that you can trust no one anymore for a penny hopefully no one did lose any bitcoins yet in this scam!

Here's an interesting entry in shotev's post history (translation follows):

Quote from: shotev on August 14, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Пoкa ocoбыx пoдpoбнocтeй нeт нo нaмeчaeтcя нoвaя кoмпaния пoдпиcнaя мeня взяли чтo-тo типa мeнeджepa пo paбoтe c клиeнтaми нa cтaвкy
Toчнo знaю чтo лoкaл бyдeт paзpeшeн( pyccкий тoчнo a мб и любoй)
aaa пpoeкт микcep тoлькo c мнoжecтвaми вaлют + дoбaвлeниe любыx пo жeлaнию

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Don't have any specific details yet, but a new signature campaign is to be run soon, I was hired as a sort of manager to work with clients for a fixed pay. I know for certain that the local boards will be allowed (the Russian one for sure and others probably too).

A mixing project but with a lot of currencies plus addition of new ones on request

So it seems that this user might have been used unwittingly, and he is not the real culprit behind all this affair (or affaire, lol)

though why didnt he show us pms or something like that as a proof that he got scammed? now he just closed the threads and thats it

Quote from: Skyripper on August 19, 2016, 01:40:52 PM

Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 01:23:08 PM

Here's an interesting entry in shotev's post history (translation follows)...

So it seems that this user might have been used unwittingly, and he is not the real culprit behind this scheme (or scam, lol)

This is only a manipulation...

Also try to translate the last post of bitevil. It looks like he's the only one who received a payment from the mixer. Cheesy

at least someone gets paid :DDDD

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Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 12:58:05 PM

These users are evidently two different persons (though affiliated in some way, maybe friends). Shotev's Russian is terribly broken at times (with a lot of spelling mistakes which native speakers usually don't make), while bitevil's language is fluent colloquial, the one you would expect on a forum like this...

Go on with reading their post histories

I only found the same orthographic mistakes and many posts in the same topics.

Quote from: deisik on August 19, 2016, 01:23:08 PM

Here's an interesting entry in shotev's post history (translation follows)...

So it seems that this user might have been used unwittingly, and he is not the real culprit behind this scheme (or scam, lol)

This is only a manipulation...

Also try to translate the last post of bitevil. It looks like he's the only one who received a payment from the mixer. Cheesy

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Quote from: Zoomer on August 19, 2016, 11:25:30 AM

That is really a new level of scam open a signature campaign to convince users the website is legit so they will deposit bitcoins there,

this show us again how carefully you need to be on this forum those days and that you can trust no one anymore for a penny hopefully no one did lose any bitcoins yet in this scam!

Here's an interesting entry in shotev's post history (translation follows):

Quote from: shotev on August 14, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Пoкa ocoбыx пoдpoбнocтeй нeт нo нaмeчaeтcя нoвaя кoмпaния пoдпиcнaя мeня взяли чтo-тo типa мeнeджepa пo paбoтe c клиeнтaми нa cтaвкy
Toчнo знaю чтo лoкaл бyдeт paзpeшeн( pyccкий тoчнo a мб и любoй)
aaa пpoeкт микcep тoлькo c мнoжecтвaми вaлют + дoбaвлeниe любыx пo жeлaнию

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Don't have any specific details yet, but a new signature campaign is to be run soon, I was hired as a sort of manager to work with clients for a fixed pay. I know for certain that the local boards will be allowed (the Russian one for sure and others probably too).

It's a mixing project but with a lot of currencies plus addition of any new ones on request

So it seems that this user might have been used unwittingly, and he is not the real culprit behind all this affair (or affaire, lol)

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Quote from: Skyripper on August 19, 2016, 10:47:04 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 19, 2016, 10:41:22 AM

It may be him as they are both active in the Russian section and the user you mentioned posted in the HybridMixer thread as well.
I'm almost sure that he was the one editing the signature campaign , as all users were "anonymous" except him which means he was the one editing (from my experience with Google documents) , correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes. And the same registered time as shotev...

shotev - April 11, 2016, 09:51:23 AM
bitevil - April 11, 2016, 09:40:56 AM

These users are evidently two different persons (though affiliated in some way, maybe friends). Shotev's Russian is terribly broken at times (with a lot of spelling mistakes which native speakers usually don't make), while bitevil's language is a fluent colloquial, the one you would expect on a forum like this...

Go on reading their post histories

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That is really a new level of scam open a signature campaign to convince users the website is legit so they will deposit bitcoins there,

this show us again how carefully you need to be on this forum those days and that you can trust no one anymore for a penny hopefully no one did lose any bitcoins yet in this scam!

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