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Topic: A mod here believes I should be scammer tagged and keeps stalking/harassing me (Read 6609 times)

legendary
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(Currently I see the same thing happening with the Bitcoinica scam - given the evidence I cannot understand why these guys (esp. Zhoutong) are not scammer tagged (instead theymos chose to accept 80 BTC from Zhoutong to advertise his next "project"  Roll Eyes - filling all available ad slots of the forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.20))

Ever hear of reasonable doubt? Innocent until proven guilty? There is no solid proof it was him, and marking him as a scammer if he's innocent would open up the forum to serious legal problems (and rightly so).

This is probably not the right place to discuss this.

I know about presumption of innocence. Thanks for the special instructions.

However there is substantial evidence in the ZT case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
Since scammer tags have been issued in less severe cases of equivalent certainty in the past it is not disproportionate to issue scammer tags in the bitcoinica case.

At the very least forum operators should not engage in dealmaking with probable scammers, effectively helping them to run the next (unprovable) scam.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1127
(Currently I see the same thing happening with the Bitcoinica scam - given the evidence I cannot understand why these guys (esp. Zhoutong) are not scammer tagged (instead theymos chose to accept 80 BTC from Zhoutong to advertise his next "project"  Roll Eyes - filling all available ad slots of the forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.20))

Ever hear of reasonable doubt? Innocent until proven guilty? There is no solid proof it was him, and marking him as a scammer if he's innocent would open up the forum to serious legal problems (and rightly so).
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1012
I'm not surprised at all. From my point of view the repeated offering of fake rewards alone would have qualified him as a scammer. At least it showed a lack of personal integrity which often is one of the few reliable indicators available to offer an increased probability in the prediction of future scam behavior.

But the majority decided to believe otherwise.
Next time, you should speak up; BCB would be 33 BTC richer if you had and he'd listened.

I did express my disapproval of TizzyTazzy's "business practice" - however this was not well received, I was even suspected of being someones (probably paraipan's) sockpuppet: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.927302

I wasn't eager to participate in a flame war to convince people about what I believe is wrong. If people just don't want to see the warning signs it doesn't help much to scream it out.


(Currently I see the same thing happening with the Bitcoinica scam - given the evidence I cannot understand why these guys (esp. Zhoutong) are not scammer tagged (instead theymos chose to accept 80 BTC from Zhoutong to advertise his next "project"  Roll Eyes - filling all available ad slots of the forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.20))

hero member
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I'm not surprised at all. From my point of view the repeated offering of fake rewards alone would have qualified him as a scammer. At least it showed a lack of personal integrity which often is one of the few reliable indicators available to offer an increased probability in the prediction of future scam behavior.

But the majority decided to believe otherwise.
Next time, you should speak up; BCB would be 33 BTC richer if you had and he'd listened.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Bitcoin today is what the internet was in 1998.
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1012
I'm not surprised at all. From my point of view the repeated offering of fake rewards alone would have qualified him as a scammer. At least it showed a lack of personal integrity which often is one of the few reliable indicators available to offer an increased probability in the prediction of future scam behavior.

But the majority decided to believe otherwise.
legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1000
I didn't really know, but I'm not surprised this person has been exposed as a scammer. It was really annoying me that he kept offering essentially fake "rewards," most recently here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-btc-reward-to-someone-who-can-help-me-with-my-monitor-issue-93825

This is also what the OP of this thread was on about, but I guess the OP knew more.

I hope that nobody does business with this person - i.e uses his web hosting solutions.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
He is online here at this moment.

Now let's keep ontopic and answer the OP:
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A mod here believes I should be scammer tagged and keeps stalking/harassing me
A mod here was right and you now have a scammer tag. Happy?
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

I don't believe paraipan knew he was that scammer. He just felt something wasn't right with the dude.
I had that same feeling just didn't call him out about the slogan thing as much as paraipan lol
I figured as much, I would have been pissed if you actually knew who he was and kept it quiet.

Interestingly enough, his hosting biz lives on.

If this was the case, I will avoid anyone at all costs that paraipan chases. Good work paraipan.

Thanks pekv2, my "gut" feeling was right on this one. After all the shit i've been taking, a thank you means everything.

Also: Note: There is a guy roaming on BTC-E chat name Tazz:, I confronted him asking if he is TizzyTazzy, he denies it so, just be weary if you are on BTC-E chat.

Maybe the BTC-E admins can help, ionno.

But yes. You're are very welcomed Smiley.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1004
Firstbits: 1pirata
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

I don't believe paraipan knew he was that scammer. He just felt something wasn't right with the dude.
I had that same feeling just didn't call him out about the slogan thing as much as paraipan lol
I figured as much, I would have been pissed if you actually knew who he was and kept it quiet.

Interestingly enough, his hosting biz lives on.

If this was the case, I will avoid anyone at all costs that paraipan chases. Good work paraipan.

Thanks pekv2, my "gut" feeling was right on this one. After all the shit i've been taking, a thank you means everything.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

I don't believe paraipan knew he was that scammer. He just felt something wasn't right with the dude.
I had that same feeling just didn't call him out about the slogan thing as much as paraipan lol
I figured as much, I would have been pissed if you actually knew who he was and kept it quiet.

Interestingly enough, his hosting biz lives on.

If this was the case, I will avoid anyone at all costs that paraipan chases. Good work paraipan.
rjk
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
1ngldh
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

I don't believe paraipan knew he was that scammer. He just felt something wasn't right with the dude.
I had that same feeling just didn't call him out about the slogan thing as much as paraipan lol
I figured as much, I would have been pissed if you actually knew who he was and kept it quiet.

Interestingly enough, his hosting biz lives on.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

I don't believe paraipan knew he was that scammer. He just felt something wasn't right with the dude.
I had that same feeling just didn't call him out about the slogan thing as much as paraipan lol
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.

Agreed. I could have been so screwed. It just moved it up down the line to someone else. Which is wrong.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1004
Firstbits: 1pirata
So, he whinny kid turned out a serial scammer.
Color me shocked!

+1  Huh
rjk
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
1ngldh
the mod knew something we did not know.
If that's the case, that's pretty scummy and should have been fixed a long time ago.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
Wow, so there was a reason behind the Mod chasing after him, as I said prior, the mod knew something we did not know. I retract all my positive statements about TizzyTazzy, and will remove my post that state so.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
So, he whinny kid turned out a serial scammer.
Color me shocked!
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
It turned out that TizzyTazzy == Icy-, DupingBitCoins, and Leon. I'll post his IPs unless he repays his victims soon.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/confirmed-scammer-user-leon-29636
This guy?
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
It turned out that TizzyTazzy == Icy-, DupingBitCoins, and Leon. I'll post his IPs unless he repays his victims soon.
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