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Quote from: Blitzboy on July 30, 2023, 04:28:15 AM

Definitely, everyone should have the chance to learn, but we need to be careful here. Lets consider: We dont know if this person wants to stop committing crimes or just discover other ways to generate money illegally. Each situation has different outcomes.

Quite true but to me is best to just do the needful which is to teach that individual who wants to learn. It can only work smoothly if we can read the thought of the next person to know what he's thinking or planning to do next but that's not possible. There's nothing bad in teaching the drug dealer guy, not that if he uses it to do something illegal is your fault, all you did is showing him the best way to make money without being chased around by the cops. He might even change his mind depending on how you use your words, can get into his skin to convince him about the drugs thing

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Im not saying he shouldnt learn about Bitcoin, but he should determine out his goals first. Is he serious about starting a cryptocurrency business? Do people think differently? You should teach if you answered yes to these questions. Life changes with education.

Information, like any instrument, can be utilized for good or evil.

He can say yes he'll change or not to use it for evil act but those are just words, after saying that he might go and do something different from what he said, so is not that easy to say something and abide by it. And at the same time he can be on the drug business and also on cryptocurrence business too, so we can point out his intentions.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 30, 2023, 04:49:30 PM

Quote from: Ale88 on July 30, 2023, 04:28:40 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

I wouldn't explain/teach nothing if you are 100% sure that your neighbor is a drug dealer. It's not a nice situation because 1) it looks like he already knows you know about bitcoin 2) you don't have the best neighbor. I would simply say that you lost interest in bitcoin time ago and you don't have it/use it anymore. But in the first place why would you even tell your neighbor about you and bitcoin? I would never do something like that, you never know who people actually are.

I was also wondering the same thing. How did his other neighbor knew about his knowledge about bitcoin? I understand if it is a close friend or family and OP just mentioned it a few times. Also, you should talk to the other neighbor who might have mentioned to your possibly drug dealer neighbor your knowledge about bitcoin. It is not fine that they are just spreading that information without your knowledge and consent.

It has already spread, so he can't now control it. That is why it is better to keep it secret, or probably not share it on social media as others have done in the past, flexing their folio. No matter how some of your neighbors spread it, you shouldn't tell your neighbors about Bitcoin. Right now, what's best to do is tell that neighbor that you're speculating about dealing drugs and that you're already not into Bitcoin. Just try to evade him no matter what, just to be safe.

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Quote from: Ale88 on July 30, 2023, 04:28:40 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

I wouldn't explain/teach nothing if you are 100% sure that your neighbor is a drug dealer. It's not a nice situation because 1) it looks like he already knows you know about bitcoin 2) you don't have the best neighbor. I would simply say that you lost interest in bitcoin time ago and you don't have it/use it anymore. But in the first place why would you even tell your neighbor about you and bitcoin? I would never do something like that, you never know who people actually are.

I was also wondering the same thing. How did his other neighbor knew about his knowledge about bitcoin? I understand if it is a close friend or family and OP just mentioned it a few times. Also, you should talk to the other neighbor who might have mentioned to your possibly drug dealer neighbor your knowledge about bitcoin. It is not fine that they are just spreading that information without your knowledge and consent.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

Just simply ignore and reject out such request and no one could force you if this is against your principle knowing that someone is really that having those illegal doings on which it is really just that right that he
shouldn't really be knowing about Bitcoin because you would really be that telling him about on how to avoid on not getting caught on which means that you are really that helping someone not only via means of anonymous payments but you are worsening out that drug addiction due to that kind of decisions if ever you would tend to help him.

If its against your principle then you could just simply reject out and tell something that wont offend him.I know the hesitance on trying out to deny or rejecting him knowing that you are dealing with someone
who does have connections and having that addiction towards drugs on which you would really be mainly be thinking for your safety too on which i do understand on how you do feel on the time
that you are on such situation on which you would really be boggling your mind whether you would be teaching him or would reject him out because its against your principles in life
but at the same time you are minding about your safety. So this would really be a tough personal choice to make.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

I wouldn't explain/teach nothing if you are 100% sure that your neighbor is a drug dealer. It's not a nice situation because 1) it looks like he already knows you know about bitcoin 2) you don't have the best neighbor. I would simply say that you lost interest in bitcoin time ago and you don't have it/use it anymore. But in the first place why would you even tell your neighbor about you and bitcoin? I would never do something like that, you never know who people actually are.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

This is a very excellent question that reveals all the problems of cryptocurrency anonymity to an outside ignorant observer, just like the state. We use cryptocurrencies only for good purposes, but there are also those for whom bitcoin is not a means that can change the world, but simply an anonymous payment tool. Such people don't care how it works. They don't call cryptocurrencies digital gold, they only care about practicality. It is because of them that there is regulation.

So my answer is no. I wouldn't teach him cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on July 29, 2023, 09:43:18 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

First of all don't write off anybody when it comes to learning no matter how you see that person.
Your neighbor who's a drug dealer and wants to learn about Bitcoin from YOU and not the other guy you taught, is something you have to prepare your mind to do, I mean what's there? Like what do you expect when you are done teaching someone something good won't that person telling another?

He might be a drug dealer but can you tell if after teaching him all about Bitcoin that he might stop going into drugs? You can be a life changer at this point, drug dealers make so much money like you asked "Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin? " who knows if he wants to stop the illegal way of making money. Well if I'm to be you OP I'd go ahead and teach him all I know about Bitcoin.

Definitely, everyone should have the chance to learn, but we need to be careful here. Lets consider: We dont know if this person wants to stop committing crimes or just discover other ways to generate money illegally. Each situation has different outcomes.

Im not saying he shouldnt learn about Bitcoin, but he should determine out his goals first. Is he serious about starting a cryptocurrency business? Do people think differently? You should teach if you answered yes to these questions. Life changes with education.

Information, like any instrument, can be utilized for good or evil.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

First of all don't write off anybody when it comes to learning no matter how you see that person.
Your neighbor who's a drug dealer and wants to learn about Bitcoin from YOU and not the other guy you taught, is something you have to prepare your mind to do, I mean what's there? Like what do you expect when you are done teaching someone something good won't that person telling another?

He might be a drug dealer but can you tell if after teaching him all about Bitcoin that he might stop going into drugs? You can be a life changer at this point, drug dealers make so much money like you asked "Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin? " who knows if he wants to stop the illegal way of making money. Well if I'm to be you OP I'd go ahead and teach him all I know about Bitcoin.

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Quote from: DanWalker on July 28, 2023, 08:06:36 AM

Criminals will not be stupid enough to hide drugs in the house or carry them with them at all times, so if OP doesn't have any proof and calling the police won't help either. I really find this solution unsafe at all unless OP has concrete evidence and is sure that the other drug dealer will be caught as soon as OP calls the police. Otherwise, the OP will be in jeopardy with his actions. I will agree with your 2nd solution, OP should ignore it entirely and continue living a normal life as before.

I think it would be the case if you are talking about smart criminals, the ones at the top, but if we are talking about the drug problem all around the world, most of the people at the very bottom do not have that much smarts. They are not smart and hence why they are at the very bottom of the drug chain, they are the type of people who deal to make more money to get more drugs, they are the people who you see passing out on the streets from overdosing and all.

This means that seeing a lot of people who would be able to just hide it somewhere in their house is the biggest trouble and should be considered as a big deal. I know that it is going to be a problem one way or another, so it would be best to avoid this situation as long as possible.

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Quote from: Aikidoka on July 27, 2023, 03:34:14 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

If you believe that by teaching him how to use bitcoin, it will help him overcome his busniess and start a new life as a better person, then sure but if you fear that he might use it to improve his drug dealing business, I would advise against it. I mean It won't be that good to just use bitcoin for a way of payment of selling drugs, you just think what's the best for you and for him i guess:)

If the OP knew what his neighbor's real goal in learning bitcoin was, he wouldn't hesitate and come up here to ask our opinion. I think what he's afraid of is that his neighbor is using bitcoins for their illegal work and that will affect OP's safety if his neighbor gets caught. The OP is in a dilemma because he doesn't want to offend his neighbors, nor does he want to lose his own safety. But in my opinion, to avoid the risks, OP should refuse rather than teach him bitcoin.

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Life has no duplicate for a drugs person comes to meet you to learn how to Bitcoin investors or business, as for me, I take him out from the house, and have an appointment to somewhere else that's safe, then para shift his brain by telling him Bitcoin is not get rich quick business, but is getting Rich is sure, just a matter of time and patience, by also show him past history of Bitcoin trading history, with that, you we also let him know that you don't have money, and you are also looking for money to invest, since I have the knowledge, but since he has the base on him, you can show and guide him how Bitcoin works, finally do not disclose your wallet to him, because of your safety.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

op said his neighbor is a drug dealer expressing interest in investing in bitcoins since he is a drug dealer you have to handle your neighbor very carefully. You can tell him that you are not doing it anymore or you can walk away from him saying that Bitcoin is bad. Or if he doesn't understand that, you can tell him to search YouTube and find out more about Bitcoin. Then if you feel like investing in Bitcoin then you can. Because if that drug dealer is somehow caught by the police then he can say that I am not dealing in drugs now I am involved in bitcoin now since bitcoin is not legal in our country you may face problems so my personal opinion is better not to teach him bitcoin.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

My short answer: NO!

You should not teach him about something like that or even get involved with him as you said he is onto drug dealings. He will probably do illegal things. I understand you know a lot about bitcoin/crypto stuff but are you a teacher? Just directly reject him and say you are busy.

And if he is so eager to learn about bitcoin, there are more qualified persons (google,YouTube, WhitePapers) to teach him. You can get tons of knowledge from them. There is even bitcoin talk.

So buddy my opinion just ignore him. Cause maybe not today not tomorrow but in the future he may use crypto for running his illegal business. Hope it clears the confusions.

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Quote from: macson on July 28, 2023, 06:39:56 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

actually, you are in a completely wrong position, on the one hand you want to be a good citizen, on the other hand you want to teach bitcoin to other people, but if i were you, i would not teach that person the basics about bitcoin and how to do it he transacted with bitcoin because it was certain that when he was caught by the police, the police would also chase me because they thought it was a gang of drug dealers. bitcoin was not created for crime, but to improve the world's financial system.

Bitcoin is just an asset and what it is used for is up to each person, we cannot prevent anyone from using it for their criminal purposes. Fiat or bitcoin or any other tool is not made for criminals, all those mistakes are human behavior. Yes, OP should have turned down that offer, it's not because OP's neighbor is a criminal that he doesn't have the right to use bitcoins. It concerns OP's safety, so please reject immediately without thinking.

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Quote from: macson on July 28, 2023, 06:39:56 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

actually, you are in a completely wrong position, on the one hand you want to be a good citizen, on the other hand you want to teach bitcoin to other people, but if i were you, i would not teach that person the basics about bitcoin and how to do it he transacted with bitcoin because it was certain that when he was caught by the police, the police would also chase me because they thought it was a gang of drug dealers. bitcoin was not created for crime, but to improve the world's financial system.

actually it would be difficult if he was our neighbor or maybe even he was our old friend. between wanting to help him change his life and at the same time OP definitely feels threatened because of his neighbor's involvement in the drug trade.
yes you are right the OP better refuse to teach with any plausible reason and ignore the neighbor regardless he looks good or maybe he is his old friend. becoming close to people who are involved in drug trafficking is highly not recommended because one day they may drag us to bear the risk of being involved with drugs.
it's better to be vigilant than to regret it if we get dragged into a drug case.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

actually, you are in a completely wrong position, on the one hand you want to be a good citizen, on the other hand you want to teach bitcoin to other people, but if i were you, i would not teach that person the basics about bitcoin and how to do it he transacted with bitcoin because it was certain that when he was caught by the police, the police would also chase me because they thought it was a gang of drug dealers. bitcoin was not created for crime, but to improve the world's financial system.

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If I have a neighbour like the one described by the OP that person is not getting any crypto education or assistance from me in whatever manner. Teaching him about Bitcoin it's like aiding and abetting or whatever crime that knowledge will be used for. For example teaching your neighbor about crypto once they they learn it and discover like mixing services you never can tell what the bitcoins in their custody that gets to them.

Let them learn about Bitcoin from some place.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

You should probably make some excuse and avoid the situation if you know it can become a problem for you in the future, or you can just tell him to simply Google about it or show him the link to Whitepaper, but he can only do his own research if he is literate and knows how technology basically works, otherwise, he will simply say that he doesn't know how to use a mobile phone, so he can't do it himself and you should help him with the research and learning.

The most obvious way would be to say the truth, tell him that most governments don't see Bitcoin as a good thing and they believe it is a criminal's currency, so if things don't work out for him and he gets in trouble, you also might get in trouble with him, and that's the reason why you feel this way. Or maybe ask him if what he want to use Bitcoin for first.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 03:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

I don’t see any reason at all why you shouldn’t teach the pros and cons of cryptocurrency or bitcoin like you put it to someone who has the zeal and is willing to learn. It doesn’t matter if it’s about the said person using it for his underground lifestyle or not, that still isn’t going to make him not continue in the drug trade but, it could be a reason for him to stop.

I don’t know of any drug dealer that is very excited about the trade. Of course the money comes but the things they have to handle as per security issues, rival wars and the safety of there family is something they have to look out for and when it happens that they find this new means of investing and even making a good enough fortune, it could serve a reason as to why they have to quit the trade.

I don't think what you're saying is what the OP is thinking. What the OP is worried about is that if he teaches bitcoin to that neighbor, it means he has a close relationship with drug criminals, and if that neighbor is arrested for drug trafficking. Bad things are bound to happen to the OP. If it were me, I wouldn't care what they used bitcoin for but teaching bitcoin to criminals could make me an accomplice and possibly jail, so I wouldn't do that. I need to protect my own safety before thinking about helping others.

Absolutely these were the reasons OP brought this topic here for discussion. Possibly OP is confused as maybe this neighbour of his might be a long time neighbour and has possibly maybe they must have had good times but getting involved in in anything of that nature that has to do with financial dealing is what OP is trying to avoid because if anything happens OP might be mentioned as his tutor and knowing fully well that he is into drugs might put OP on partner at crime charges hence OPs cries for advice here.

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