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Quote from: jeraldskie11 on July 26, 2023, 06:49:34 PM

If I were the neighbor of drug dealer I will not teach him to buy Bitcoin because it will risk my life. What if this is just his way to encourage me to use drugs or to be a drug dealer. At the beginning of our conversation I will calmly say that I will not teach him and explain to him very well my reason. I would rather suggest to watch video in YouTube because it's much easier to understand. Atleast he would not have a doubt in me and make my life in safe. However, we really don't know what his plan but it's better to be sure that our life is safe.

Beside watching tom & jerry and other entertainment video's on youtube. Partaking in online video tutorials is meaningless (they watch,listen but, donot comprehend) to most people.

They are at a stage were they need face to face mentor not virtual.

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This is your assumption.not base on fact (not realistic)
Most drug dealers already have means and ways to recycle money.

Maybe, he wants to learn crypto currency in order to invest and quit other non-decent jobs.

** teaching someone who is willing to learn does not make you take responsibility for his/her actions.

You can just introduce him or her to some basic terminologies and watch out before moving to more complex lessons.

Note: we live in society were we made to suspect every single mosquito bite.

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If I were the neighbor of drug dealer I will not teach him to buy Bitcoin because it will risk my life. What if this is just his way to encourage me to use drugs or to be a drug dealer. At the beginning of our conversation I will calmly say that I will not teach him and explain to him very well my reason. I would rather suggest to watch video in YouTube because it's much easier to understand. Atleast he would not have a doubt in me and make my life in safe. However, we really don't know what his plan but it's better to be sure that our life is safe.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on July 26, 2023, 04:39:12 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

Ah, this is quite difficult. Actually, just being a drug dealer is already a crime. And maybe he is already on the radar of the security forces. However, have you really confirmed that he is a dealer?
Even if it's true, maybe you can explain about Bitcoin but only as needed. Giving new knowledge to someone is actually not wrong, but it really depends on how that person will use this knowledge for what. This will be a complete dilemma. Because if you refuse, will it be safe for you?

It's not really a big deal, we will always have a lot of ways to turn someone down. You can make excuses that you don't have time, aren't good at teaching others…and tell him that knowledge can be easily found on the internet. I don't think it's dangerous for us to refuse bitcoin education to our neighbors. They may be dealing with drugs out there, but when they're our neighbors, they treat us well, there's nothing to worry about. I think OP and he also have a good relationship otherwise why would he come to OP for help?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

Yes, I would. There is nothing wrong if we teach people where to buy Bitcoin as long as we don't mediate in the transaction.

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

If you are worrying, then you can just send links and tutorials on youtube and tell him that you also are not familiar with buying Bitcoin and that you are afraid that you might mess up in the process.

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These stories are somewhat silly, like the story that says; "the neighbor of a neighbor of that neighbor told me...", first of all, if the guy deals in drugs, he is not going to bother his neighbor to ask him about how to handle bitcoin, something like this is achieved in a couple of clicks, on the other hand, if that happens, what he is looking for is something else and it is not exactly that you teach him how bitcoin works.

Finally, we do not have to be bitcoin teachers and even less preachers, a simple does not work in this case, and if possible say it three or four times.

In any case, I think that, as a friend of a friend of a friend said, it is more dangerous for your wife to ask you "teach me everything you know about bitcoin..."

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

Where are the bitcoin maximalists when we need them the most? Where are them to preach about bitcoin and its adoption lol

Kidding aside, it all depends on how morally upright you are. Are you willing to keep a secret to help a brother out in keeping his money? Or are you going to deny you know anything about bitcoin and risk getting beaten for withholding information that they need? It's all up to you my friend. Personally, and this is still an answer in progress but is something that's straight from the top of my head, I won't tell him about it, I'd deny that I know about bitcoin, maybe even lie that I'm only lying to my neighbor to make me sound cool or something lol. It's better to get beaten and all that than to be an accomplice to a crime you never and will never commit.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What will I do??? I will teach him.
First, what do you consider learning Bitcoin? Helping someone make an investment in Bitcoin is not the same thing as learning about Bitcoin, as Bitcoin knowledge is far above that.

Because one is into illegal dealing does not make everything that comes from him completely bad; sometimes we should have a positive mindset towards things.

If my neighbor sincerely approaches me and says that he needs some knowledge about Bitcoin, then I will give that to him. What I can't do is go to him and tell him how to run his business or try to talk him out of what he does, nor will I ask him why and what he wants to get involved in Bitcoin. Just because we are living in the same neighborhood does not make us brothers; we should respect each other's lanes, help one another in any way possible, and teaching him how to buy Bitcoin won't do me any harm.

The only place where I can see this as something negative is if the neighbor comes to me and asks me how he can use Bitcoin to launder out his illegally earned money, knowing that if I render such help, I could be charged for only God knows what if any case ever gets attached to him.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

Ah, this is quite difficult. Actually, just being a drug dealer is already a crime. And maybe he is already on the radar of the security forces. However, have you really confirmed that he is a dealer?
Even if it's true, maybe you can explain about Bitcoin but only as needed. Giving new knowledge to someone is actually not wrong, but it really depends on how that person will use this knowledge for what. This will be a complete dilemma. Because if you refuse, will it be safe for you?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

It depends on your ethics, so it's rather a philosophical question. If you're a drug dealer, or someone who uses drugs, teaching another fellow about using bitcoin shouldn't be a problem, right? Cheesy

I don't think drugs should be banned. We should all have freedom to put any substance we like into our bodies? Who's there to say I can smoke, drink alcohol, but I can't sniff coke? When Coca Cola was adding cocaine to the drink it was all good, but then it wasn't anymore because we changed our minds about what should and should not be allowed by the government, our supreme overlords.

IMO anybody has the right to know about bitcoin, regardless of their trade, morals and all that. It's up to them what they do with this knowledge.

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Quote from: pawanjain on July 26, 2023, 11:58:07 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

That person would definitely use bitcoin for his drug dealing activities and if I were at your place I would rather stay away from him.
If he would ask me to teach him about bitcoin then I would rather say that I have already quit bitcoin long ago and lost more money in it.
I would also say that I have got bank notice and a call from police asking about dealing in crypto and so I quit crypto.
That would be the best way to tackle this situation and I am sure that the person will never come to you again.

Well i don't about you but if it's me, I don't think that my neighbor would have even known that am into Bitcoin and plus I have really bad experience partnering or doing anything with a drug person because the last time I tried it actually landed me in a prison cell for something I don't know about and that's why I would ignore anything that has drugs involved in it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

First of all, I will never live near a neighbor that is into drug business, that's like risking my life with a person knowing fully they are into illegal stuff and decide the stay near them. What I will do if I have evidence, I will call the police, trust me bro, that's going to be the first thing I will do but if there is no any evidence, then that's like hearing rumors and decide to profile person, it will make me a bad person if I don't see something and then begin to believe what people say about someone, that's very bad to believe in rumors or street talk, I have to see to believe.

Now, when such kind of person approaches me to buy bitcoin, I will teach him how to buy as long as no evidence that money is illegal and by the way, he is using his account to buy bitcoin and not mine, I will teach him andbhow to buy but I wouldn't involved anything that has to do with me, if he is indeed a clean person, nobody will come hunting for his head but if it's illegal, they will come for him, I'm just like a regular person who direct a stranger where to buy something from the market.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

That person would definitely use bitcoin for his drug dealing activities and if I were at your place I would rather stay away from him.
If he would ask me to teach him about bitcoin then I would rather say that I have already quit bitcoin long ago and lost more money in it.
I would also say that I have got bank notice and a call from police asking about dealing in crypto and so I quit crypto.
That would be the best way to tackle this situation and I am sure that the person will never come to you again.

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Here's what I think about this situation. Let me give you an example. As we are talking about drugs, this reminds me a lot of the series called Breaking Bad. If you have watched it, you will know. As teachers, they teach students and they spread the knowledge. So think of one teacher teaching chemistry. It's his duty as a teacher to teach his students that knowledge. But it is not in his hand what his students will do with that knowledge. They can use it for good things or they can use that knowledge to make drugs. Which is bad.

So to me, Bitcoin knowledge will be the same as that. You share it with others because you thought you should spread that knowledge. But what they will do with it is not in your hand. But in this case, you already know that he's a drug dealer and he might use it for bad purposes. If you are sure that this is the reason why he wants to learn about Bitcoin, then don't teach him. If that's not the case, if you feel ok with it, you can definitely teach him. But it is really a good idea to keep your involvement in cryptocurrency a secret.

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This is a moral conundrum. The relation between legality and morality can be challenging. Bitcoin is a novel way to handle money, but because its anonymous, its often used to cover bad behavior.

However, teaching someone about Bitcoin does not mean you endorse their unlawful activities. There are various reasons your friend may wish to know this. You dont know everything about his goals, even if they look questionable. It may be safer to direct him to public sites where he can obtain this information.

In the end, he is ethically responsible for his actions, not the Bitcoin teacher.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

If I were in that position, my neighbor was a drug dealer, then I would choose to move from the area. I think the climate there is not good and if your neighbor is caught by the police then you will most likely be used as a witness, or even worse you will be accused of conspiring with him because you already know there are drug dealers but you don't report them to the police

If it turns out that my condition can't move from that area then maybe I'll choose to keep teaching him about bitcoin. I don't have to think negatively about what he's going to do with his bitcoins. I think bitcoin and fiat, both can be used to cover up crimes, and the term money laundering exists in fiat and bitcoin systems. Maybe I'll teach the neighbor as soon as possible so I don't have to deal with or talk to him anymore, because it's a bad relationship, you can get tempted and join in those forbidden activities.

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You better stay away from your neighbor as much as possible. Make yourself busy and occupied so he understands it later on and won't distract you again. In the case that he is asking you about bitcoin, you simply give him the basic information but you don't teach him the best way to buy, sell and hide bitcoins. Of course, you also have to tell him to search on the internet if he wants to learn more about bitcoin.

This is why I just want to stay silent and keep myself private about my investing in bitcoin. Unless people are just too close to me and I can feel comfortable sharing them. Nonetheless, bitcoin has its own risks which is something ordinary people cannot take especially during bear season.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on July 26, 2023, 02:28:43 AM

If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

I have the idea that if you start teaching him, he will end up asking you to take care of the Bitcoin part of his business because he will have a lot more to do other than taking care of that part. That is my idea. And when you notice you will be his business "account manager". lol

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Does a drug lord even feel comfortable in his own home or letting his neighbors know he's committing a crime?
Even so, the only way is to teach them professionally, I mean directing material that leads to bitcoin transactions legally. Until that point, bitcoin will no longer be their option.

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I agree that it depends on the drug. There are nations in this world that made weed legal, so if he is a drug dealer that is doing legal work, then I do not think that it should matter, after all its everything by the law. HOwever OP said that he may use it to launder money, and that means he is possibly doing something that is illegal. In that case I would highly suggest not only not helping him, but also staying away from him enough that he wouldn't be able to ask you this. It just doesn't mean that it would work, it would probably not work at all and I would consider that as a big trouble for you. Its best to stay as far away from people who do illegal stuff as possible.

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