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June 22, 2023, 06:00:34 PM
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OP, everyone's safety is paramount to them. I see no wrong if your friend decided not to show you his bitcoin assets or wallet for track. Your friend considers his privacy and thinks of protecting his life which is the major reasons why bitcoin was developed. Every man to his or her own wallet. Nobody can be able to know each very wallet and their owners.
You have done well to bringing your friend into blockchain, teaching him the basics and fundamentals which are commendable but never have in mind or expect them to show you their private wallets after finish learning.
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That is one of the part a bitcoin user does so don't blame him, because we don't trust our next neighbours. You were under observation. He was observing you to know if you were a trusted to to mingle with bitcoin. And also he was playing the role of physical anonymity from people so that authority would not go after him. Because nobody is trusted. That is, he is telling something that you should also do by not announcing your investments mostly cryptocurrency to people including friends. But in the process of they can find out then it is good for them and not you announcing to them. All what you have to do is to just play along with him and learn more from him again. And don't be hurt with his hidden character as bitcoin guru in your locality. You people can work together and build things together by using p2p as well.
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Maybe your friend didn't want to share his bitcoin involvement with any of you. In this case there can be two reasons why your friend is not sharing Bitcoin with you one is because he is concerned about security and secondly he doesn't want you to be involved with Bitcoin. Because he might have thought that he would single-handedly change his financial situation by getting involved in Bitcoin and investing in Bitcoin. If his thoughts are like the second reason I mentioned then you can stop hanging out with him because that friend will never want you well.

There are many other reasons that we still do not know. Why don't you think that the OP himself is not good enough and makes his friend untrustworthy enough to share some secrets with the OP? Because investing in bitcoin is considered a secret by some for privacy reasons. We can't just listen to one direction and judge others based on someone's story.

I think the best way is for both should have a frank talk with each other to find out the cause. If they have friction and no longer trust each other, the friendship should be terminated.
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Maybe your friend didn't want to share his bitcoin involvement with any of you. In this case there can be two reasons why your friend is not sharing Bitcoin with you one is because he is concerned about security and secondly he doesn't want you to be involved with Bitcoin. Because he might have thought that he would single-handedly change his financial situation by getting involved in Bitcoin and investing in Bitcoin. If his thoughts are like the second reason I mentioned then you can stop hanging out with him because that friend will never want you well.
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Why the secret wasn't kept to himself? Why did his family and relative know about his Bitcoin investment? I think your replies are not right but I will make this my last comment in the thread, it's fine.

That's it, now you see that he was not secure as possible. He didn't explain his relatives how important to keep his bitcoins in secret. He shared his secret with his family, some of them shared it with you and then you shared it with us all. So if anyone will reveal your identity... There are enough cases when bad guys visited bitcoin holders and using violence forced to give the keys to wallets. It is not what should be told everyone.

So why are you all accepting Bitcoin as means of payment? Why are you all displaying "Bitcoin is accepted here"? Why are you promoting Bitcoin? Why don't you all keep it as secret since you don't want anyone to know that you are involved with Bitcoin.

"Bitcoin is accepted here" sticker is not as risky: a criminal never knows if you've got any bitcoins or not and if you've got then if you use some third party to exchange accepted bitcoins to fiat currency immediately or hold them by yourself. They'll more likely take cash from cashier.
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?

I feel somehow about my friend because I just found out that he has been into Bitcoin for a long time, probably before me, what's surprising to me is whenever I tried to enlighten him about Bitcoin he always Shawn me down and say he has no interest..

Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?

At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.

What do you think is probably ongoing here?


It's a case of keeping your private life private and nothing more. You don't need to take it personal, some person are like that, they like keeping certain things to themselves no matter how close you are to them, and it is for obvious reasons.

Well, now that you know, still don't talk too much about BTC to him, he might still don't want to talk about it.
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What do you think is probably ongoing here?


Don't take it personal you're friend just want to protect himself most probably. Not against you, but with people who develops an interest to rob his bitcoin. There might be some circumstances that you talk to someone outside your circle about you or your friends involvement with bitcoin.
What I think about your friend is that, he's a very careful man, he most probably has a huge stack of bitcoin in his wallet.

Here's a piece of advice, now that you already knew that he has been in bitcoin probably longer than you do, you have to respect his decision that he kept it to himself as he definitely has a good reason behind it.
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?


If you don't get the point mate ? sorry to say and sadly to understand that Your friend seems to be not treating you a true friend because he tries to secure His knowledge and bitcoin from you meaning one thing , that he even consider you as a threat back then and just recently that he give trust on you when he finally realized and get to believe you are in bitcoin.

i can also relate in this but it is me that denies my friend to learn about my dealing in bitcoin and crypto .
once he PMed me in messenger about his newly found money making site( it is a crypto site but not bitcointalk) he tells me that he is now generating income from His investment in Bitcoin but I show no complete interest , but sooner when bitcoin price experience bad time? he leave and never trust bitcoin as losses comes his way so now I realized that better that he did not come to learn my involvement in crypto because he is not truly a believer .
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?

I feel somehow about my friend because I just found out that he has been into Bitcoin for a long time, probably before me, what's surprising to me is whenever I tried to enlighten him about Bitcoin he always Shawn me down and say he has no interest..

Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?

At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.

What do you think is probably ongoing here?


I think some people just keep a privacy policy for themselves here, that's obviously what your friend was intentionally doing here because he didn't want to draw any attention to his bitcoin holdings so other people can be shouting it out for the world to hear. Just a thought though
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Perfect, I feel the same about OP's friend. Maybe he don't trust him as much as he trust his friend. Because he saw OP talk too much about bitcoin and thinks that OP can scam him. Also some people don't want to share anything with others, maybe your friend don't to share the knowledge with you.

Why do you waste your time on thinking about something that you can not control? Your friend ignores you and you should do the same. No hard feelings.
There's nothing wrong with having always a safety precaution. Rember always, "prevention is better than cure". So for me, it's always better to avoid and always be careful, there will be nothing to lose if you prevent it from happening in the first place.
Teaching some people how Bitcoin works and guiding them is already good enough for me, always set some boundaries.
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What do you think is probably ongoing here?

if you feel disturbed by your feelings then you should ask your friend directly to avoid bad relations between you and your friend, why should you suspect or think something that is uncertain and unclear?
even you hear it from relatives who are not sure the truth. there are several possibilities, the first is that what his relative said was not true. the second possibility is that he really protects his privacy from you because he doesn't trust you for some reason.
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Trust no one. If you have ever thought why bitcoin is anonymous then this is a perfect reason. Beside it is better to feel safe knowing that no one ones about your bitcoin holdings than to feel terrified about get robbed because someone knows about your bitcoin holding. Still it is easy to know those who have bitcoin by just going to their social media and looking at the activities and types of conversations that they engage in. Your friend may have chosen to live a quiet life. Just buy and hold.
Perfect, I feel the same about OP's friend. Maybe he don't trust him as much as he trust his friend. Because he saw OP talk too much about bitcoin and thinks that OP can scam him. Also some people don't want to share anything with others, maybe your friend don't to share the knowledge with you.

Why do you waste your time on thinking about something that you can not control? Your friend ignores you and you should do the same. No hard feelings.
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?

I feel somehow about my friend because I just found out that he has been into Bitcoin for a long time, probably before me, what's surprising to me is whenever I tried to enlighten him about Bitcoin he always Shawn me down and say he has no interest..

Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?

At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.

What do you think is probably ongoing here?


Security and anonymity are crucial, particularly when it comes to Bitcoin investments or any type of cryptocurrency.The fact that he didn't tell you that he was investing in bitcoins doesn't necessarily imply that he didn't trust you, but in order to increase security, it is best to keep quiet since if you do, someone else might find out. In fact, whenever it comes to financial matters, we should never put our trust in anyone because people are often seduced by weath.I've seen a number of instances where someone killed their best buddy for a small sum of money he told him he hide in somewhere, so it would be best if he kept his investment a secret.
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What do you think is probably ongoing here?

Trust no one. If you have ever thought why bitcoin is anonymous then this is a perfect reason. Beside it is better to feel safe knowing that no one ones about your bitcoin holdings than to feel terrified about get robbed because someone knows about your bitcoin holding. Still it is easy to know those who have bitcoin by just going to their social media and looking at the activities and types of conversations that they engage in. Your friend may have chosen to live a quiet life. Just buy and hold.
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?

There are several conditions where we really want more privacy, especially when investing in bitcoin.
Your friend wants that and it's good enough actually to see someone who is so humble and continues to be a hidden individual like that because he really wants a different and different life when he is in an investment and friendship environment.
Hiding from those closest to the fact that it is very difficult and I quite salute what your friend did because he is firm with the anonymity he carries out.
On the other hand, he is also not too interested in exhibitions which are sometimes always done, especially when discussing or talking about bitcoin and I like that.

For other things in friendship, you don't need to be discouraged when there is a secret that is not leaked because each of us may have some that you don't want other people to know, including your friends. the most important thing is that your relationship and your friends are fine apart from investing in bitcoin that is enough because being in bitcoin openly or covertly will not destroy friendship.
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Why would someone try to hide their Bitcoin involvement from their friends that tried to teach them all this while?

I feel somehow about my friend because I just found out that he has been into Bitcoin for a long time, probably before me, what's surprising to me is whenever I tried to enlighten him about Bitcoin he always Shawn me down and say he has no interest..

Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?

At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.

What do you think is probably ongoing here?

He just want for it to be private and just like on what other people been saying on here on which even you are friends but doesnt mean that he should obliged himself on telling you everything on
everything he do or simply with those secrets which we know that it cant really be that something to be shared on considering that it do involves money and there are indeed people who cant really
be just simply so open on their engagement on things and its true that its better to respect his privacy.

If you do have interest on telling him about Bitcoin then just simply proceed but if you do see that he had already the knowledge then simply cut it off and move on. Just live and treat him
as your friend despite of such condition on which telling him about Bitcoin. You might thought that you are better than him but you shouldnt really make yourself that get
shocked on the time that he would really be more knowledgeable than you, so better none on pushing things.
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A man without secret is not a man enough, like some persons have said, being friends is not an automatic ticket for you to know everything about me including my finances and investments, there is always a limit to what a friend should know about another friend, and those who are wise know and practice this..

Me for example, I have several friends, both casual and those I consider to be close, but several of them know nothing about my finances  and my involvement in bitcoin, so what your friend did is nothing to feel bad about, consider it a lesson your friend thought you, and maybe practise same going forward from now on.
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I believe this friend of yours is in fear of the mind of men, but I won't support the point that you two aren't genuine friends, I know that friends turn to enemies and friends do better themselves, but the privacy thing makes sense when you keep your worth a secret, it doesn't break privacy teaching people about Bitcoin, it takes a deep thinking to understand this.

If your friend can talk about Bitcoin investment in his family, what makes him think that he is safer doing so? There is a saying that everyone's real enemies are within our mist, some people's real enemies are in their families.

It's all in your front now, your friend don't trust you and he feel unsafe around you when it comes to making money, if you are a good person, you should just accept the truth and move on, but all I see here is untrust between two friends.
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Today I get to know from a relative of his, who thought that we are into Bitcoin investment together, a coincidence that brings up some suspicious thought, now I am left with thoughts of why he was hiding this all along from me?

At first I though maybe he was scared bringing me along, but it doesn't make any sense because I thought I knew better than him and I needed to teach him.

What do you think is probably ongoing here?


Not all holders are the same I'm also holding some information on my friends and relatives who are investors like me, I value my privacy when it comes to investing so just be happy that he is into Bitcoin like you when it comes to investing in Bitcoin and you know someone, learns to accept the fact that you do not have the privilege to ask him to open up.

You can now talk about the market and news about the industry and what coins are good and what are going to be pumped but not to the point that he will open up his investment to you, I don't want to say that he distrust you because you know him better, but still congratulate him for investing in Bitcoin.
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Because that's how you do it.

That guy understands on how important it is to live a private life and no need to broadcast it even to his friends that his into Bitcoin for such a long time.

I am also doing this when friends of mine that have asked me before and then follows me up and asks me if I'm still in. I'm choosing people where I'll be serious about matters and that guy probably feels the same thing.
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