Topic: A public plea to SealsWithClubs - page 4. (Read 8686 times)

You guys know you can play poker with Bitcoins on SwitchPoker right?

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Poker software is not a simple project, and pouring money in does not guarantee good results. I don't think the tens of thousands that we probably could raise on GLBSE would suffice. I expect better bitcoin poker software will come from someone(s) that have the right skills and are passionate about the project or from some company that already has top quality poker software available to it.

Poker Stars software is superb, I have played several million hands on it and I love(d) it. It cost them millions of dollars and I expect over a million dollars/year to maintain and improve. You can't get that quality for cheap.

I really hope a big player makes it happen before long. I think it is inevitable.

This.

Internet poker for real money is mostly a virgin market in the U.S... When people realize that bitcoin as real as real money can get, then this site will be booming... regardless the software IMO.

It's really hard to put your finger on, but if you try the PokerStars client, and then try the Seals one, you'll see what he means I think.  The PokerStars client just feels slick.  The games flow smoother, the user experience is just somehow better.  Maybe part of it is that PokerStars is a native app, and Seals is stuck in a browser tab, faking a multi-window environment inside a flash app.  Even running the Windows version of PokerStars in Linux using WINE feels better than the Seals flash app.

Well a while back I was interested in getting a team together to improve on the Holdingnuts opensource poker client but that idea fell through.

The source is freely available on holdingnuts.net so you could improve it wherever you want.

Oh ok.  I haven't been involved in any other poker sites, really, so I don't know what I am missing compared to Full Tilt or Poker Stars.  Care to enlighten the uninformed?  What do those popular sites have that seals with clubs does not?

It's probably a case of ignorance - I just don't know that there is better software out there.

I don't mean lags in a delay sort of way, just that it sucks.

The first person to make some bitcoin compatible software that's comparable to full-tilt/pokerstars/etc. will make a shed load of BTC.

The suggestion to get a GLBSE listing going is a good one -we could all invest and reap the rewards  

Do we have enough skills in the community to pull this off and how much would it cost?

Personally, I just think it needs to be heavily (and I mean heavily) advertised outside of the Bitcoin realm.  The market for Bitcoin users who play poker is saturated - now it's time to move on to the market for poker players who might be willing to use Bitcoin.

I have no qualms with the software.  It gets the job done, and I never see lag myself.  Why do you hate it so much Daily Anarchist?

Free and Open Source Software would be the tits, no doubt about it. And really, I think that's the way things are headed eventually anyways. It would help to add a lot of trust to sites if the code were all open source.

This is the only thing I know of. I have no idea why the project died.

https://github.com/hippich/Bitcoin-Poker-Room

It, or something like it, could definitely be implemented with some full-time programmers. There just doesn't seem to be anybody funding it. And I can understand that. Who wants to drop a bunch of money into a FOSS poker client just to see somebody else open up some competition a month after you've paid for it all? But that's not to say it's not possible. On a side note I tend to think that in the future online poker rooms won't charge any rake, but will get all of their money through advertisements appearing on the poker table. Imagine, a new advertisement on the table each hand, but no rake involved. Just get creative!

Hello Daily Anarchist,

Is there any Open Source Poker Software you would recommend to FreeMoney (SealsWithClubs)?

I would get behind this in a second.

I've played on SWC a few times.. yeah it could definitely use a facelift. but its playable. 

Bridging the gap from Pokerstars player with visa to SWC player with Bitcoin is what's important..  Pulling that off would be game changer..

For the love of God please go "public" with Seals!

Seals has been around for a looooooonnnnggggg time now and it's still dead as shit! The friggin' Sunday night 60 BTC guarantee still doesn't even net profit. The ring games lag ass, too!

It's not because freemoney doesn't rock. He does! It's not because Bitcoin doesn't make poker way cooler. It does! Then why does SealsWithClubs still suck balls?

The one and only reason I can think of is because Seals is running a garbage ass poker client. It's proprietary software. Strike one. It runs on a Windows server. Strike two. The software itself sucks too. Strike three!

I want SWC to succeed for two main reasons. I want to play real fucking poker online like I used to when Full Tilt was still around. And second, I want to see Bitcoin succeed even quicker than it already is. If SWC can become a kickass company, both of my goals will happen as a result.

In my not-so-humble opinion, SWC needs to invest in some seriously kickass poker software. That costs money, more money than he is willing to risk. So, go public on GLBSE. Raise tens of thousands of dollars. Turn Seals into a real company with shareholders, and a board of directors, a CEO, shit, whatever the hell it takes to turn Seals into a vibrant online Bitcoin poker community. Because right now it appears to be going nowhere fast.

Does anybody else out there agree? If so, please speak up! freemoney needs some encouragement!