A remark on casino bonuses - page 2.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 11, 2023, 03:58:38 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Do your part, mate. It's not that things will always be spoonfed to make people satisfied.

It's been ages already that any promotions or bonuses do always associated with a Terms and Conditions. That's usual to expect.

Can you share some examples of promo banners that literally just redirect to the sign-up page? I said, promo banner exactly and not a marketing banner.

the reason why some new players of the casino are getting rekt as they are getting tempted with the mouth-watering bonuses or rewards. some of them for sure forgot to check the terms attached to it. and they will complain afterwards, not knowing they haven't completed the required wagering requirements.
i have seen several times in this forum, a player accusing the site of being a scam as he can't withdraw his winnings. but afterwards, it is the player himself that had shortcomings. either he didn't comply with the conditions or violated some entries on the site's ToS.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Do your part, mate. It's not that things will always be spoonfed to make people satisfied.

It's been ages already that any promotions or bonuses do always associated with a Terms and Conditions. That's usual to expect.

Can you share some examples of promo banners that literally just redirect to the sign-up page? I said, promo banner exactly and not a marketing banner.

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Interests are like that for which we think that we're the target customers but not really. I think that for pages that are about the promos, they've got the t&c's that are posted below the promo and that's why I don't see it as a problem.
But if it's an interest that they should really fix, for their new and old customers, it's not that much work for them to have it work properly because it's like an easy thing to be made.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

The truth is that most of the casino and promos target the new users as they want more people come to their site and deposit / wager. Due to this reason when you click on these banner, they will take you direct to the registration page. Also most of the casino give you deposit bonus and most of the time this bonus is on the first deposit, again favoring the new user.

Don't you why they don't give these offers to new users because it is equally important to retain the old users as compare to gaining new customers Huh

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on March 11, 2023, 03:40:25 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 12:30:08 AM

I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.

- You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.

Someone can just immediately create an account right after seeing those enticing offers but if it's me I will have a doubt on it. Like they say that when something is too good to be true, chances are that it was not really true or there are hidden terms/conditions about it. This makes me not to sign up on them because I will just waste my time there or possibly money.

There are lots of good gambling sites lying around the first page of the gambling board but if you can't find any that catches your attention, that would be the time to do your own research. It can be outside this forum but it was your own responsibility now whatever happened to you or to your funds.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on March 11, 2023, 03:30:11 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on March 10, 2023, 07:00:56 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

Most of those banners I've seen were for those who are new users, meaning they will need to sign up to get those promotions because for existing users, they mostly have a page alone with the promotions or can easily get redirected to it like raffles or new games. The problem with these promotions is that you need to achieve specific goals, like betting a certain amount to get qualified, which means sometimes you need to spend more money.

Well, crypto adverts like banners are aimed at new players, while promo notification is for existing players. There is nothing we can do about this kind of method @OP because as an advertiser, it is logical to redirect a potential player to the registration page than to the terms and agreements. About the promotion, obviously, to avail of any promo from a gambling platform, they must be a member of that platform since they have to used the promos and bonuses on that same platform.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on March 11, 2023, 03:40:25 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 12:30:08 AM

I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.

- You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.

Researching each new casino can give us to know more about the casino before we decide. But most gamblers don't do it but will register immediately because they don't want to miss the promos given by the casino. In addition, they feel that reading the terms and conditions can be done later once they have an account at the casino.

We are always obliged to read the casino's terms and conditions to avoid violating them. And if we are not comfortable with the terms and conditions, we can look for another casino because we have a large list of new casinos waiting to be researched.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 12:30:08 AM

I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.

- You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 10, 2023, 07:00:56 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

Most of those banners I've seen were for those who are new users, meaning they will need to sign up to get those promotions because for existing users, they mostly have a page alone with the promotions or can easily get redirected to it like raffles or new games. The problem with these promotions is that you need to achieve specific goals, like betting a certain amount to get qualified, which means sometimes you need to spend more money.

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Quote from: darewaller on March 10, 2023, 03:14:10 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Under these banners, usually we can find "see terms and conditions for full details" link, which clearly suggests that any interested person must click on it first to know if what to expect with those bonuses. If you will rush and play, you will mostly get disappointed about the results.

If the link redirects you to the sign-up page, there must be a terms and condition button there. They are usually located and the very bottom or before we push that sign-up button but of course many of us won't take the time to read them because they are boring and we are lazy to read a plain wall of text but we can use the "find in page function" of our browser only to go the section that interests us the most. It can be bonus, KYC and others.

Don't be in such a rush; we wouldn't want you to trip over your own feet, would we? Trust me when I say that the tiny print, those often-ignored terms and conditions that may make or break your wealth, is where you'll find the secret to success as a sports bettor. Go at those long, complicated paperwork carefully before you rush into battle. But have no fear; there is an easy way to navigate your way through this labyrinth; simply use the "find in page" feature to skip to the meat of the matter. Do you need extra information? KYC? Or is there any additional information you need to know? The information you want is just a click away! Relax with a beverage of your choice and take your time reading the terms and conditions. You can take my word for it; it will completely alter the playing pitch.

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Quote from: acroman08 on March 09, 2023, 06:16:20 AM

if you are a gambler you should really make it a habit of reading a casino's terms and conditions(this includes specific terms and conditions on their specific bonuses), reading it can save you a lot of trouble if you plan on gambling on that online casino. you should never rely on a casino to give all the details to you on the get-go.

They are usually many pages with lot of T&C on which we don't focus and just sign up for our account overlooking what's written in it which is problem for them later on because you can't blame casino as you have agreed upon the terms so you were not aware about it will not give you any excuse so read them giving some time before signing up.

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Many people might not know your frustration with this, it's a kind of way of playing with someone's emotions. It has happened to me before when I was desperately in need of some bonuses or at some times when they have engaged my mind with a mind-blowing bonus but it would be a different thing entirely after redirecting.

Well, you have to know their gimmicks now, just don't get excited about anything you see online anymore until you validate it is worth it.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 10, 2023, 07:00:56 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

Maybe the casino thinks every gambler who visits the promo page already understands the terms and conditions. They immediately direct them to the login page to enter their account and deposit money to play gambling. But new gamblers have to check the terms and conditions before registering and depositing their money. That would be better because they can find out how much minimum money they have to deposit, how much betting they have to do, and so on.

That's so we don't feel cheated by the casino's bonus promo and deposit some money to get the promo from the casino we want. Hopefully, people can get the attractive promos they are looking for.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

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Quote from: Daltonik on March 10, 2023, 06:45:13 AM

Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Promo banners of online casinos are designed, in my opinion, mainly to attract new users, if you are already a user and receive a newsletter for a promo by mail, they usually lead to the page of the promotion itself, but everything depends on the desire of the gambling platform and targeting a specific audience.

the promo banner is meant to invest more gamblers to a platform that is why many casinos have there own promo banner and it is different from other. The banner mostly lead to where new users that are interested and reader to register on the platform to put there information so that everything will be processed. The promo banner we are agitating about is just like the normal signature banner we have here that contains the name of the platform and some few descriptions about there offers. If you click on a promo banner and it takes you to there terms and conditions then something is wrong somewhere.

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Quote from: blockman on March 10, 2023, 05:38:53 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Casinos can be vague at times, and I do agree that some of their adverts should really be redirected to the terms and conditions. For unregistered users of the platform, of course it's obvious that the casino would want you to register first or loging to view the bonus so that your curiosity can easily be converted to a deposit to chase the bonus. Pretty annoying for us players, but it works for the casinos obviously, so why change it?

Yeah, it works for them and that's why they won't change a thing with it. Until it's valid that they're seeing it no longer effective then that's the time that they have to restrategize their tactics. But as long as it's working, there's no need for them to change that as it's not being called by their demand. As much as we want to make things easy, it's for them to tell and do things whether it's really needed or not.
While the impact of it for an individual is quite big but for them, if someone goes to the landing page, that's all they need to do because once a gambler is enticed with the promos, they wouldn't mind about stuff of registering because they already caught their attention about the promos that they can see.

but do take note that if the requirements are quite not reasonable, people will talk. and they can give bad feedbacks if they got screwed because of misleading adverts.
for sure, those too-good-to-be-true bonuses have corresponding requirements, in which, most gamblers will fail to complete. the casino would know if their tactics are not working if less people to none are availing their bonuses.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Casinos can be vague at times, and I do agree that some of their adverts should really be redirected to the terms and conditions. For unregistered users of the platform, of course it's obvious that the casino would want you to register first or loging to view the bonus so that your curiosity can easily be converted to a deposit to chase the bonus. Pretty annoying for us players, but it works for the casinos obviously, so why change it?

Yeah, it works for them and that's why they won't change a thing with it. Until it's valid that they're seeing it no longer effective then that's the time that they have to restrategize their tactics. But as long as it's working, there's no need for them to change that as it's not being called by their demand. As much as we want to make things easy, it's for them to tell and do things whether it's really needed or not.
While the impact of it for an individual is quite big but for them, if someone goes to the landing page, that's all they need to do because once a gambler is enticed with the promos, they wouldn't mind about stuff of registering because they already caught their attention about the promos that they can see.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on March 10, 2023, 04:45:16 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Casinos can be vague at times, and I do agree that some of their adverts should really be redirected to the terms and conditions. For unregistered users of the platform, of course it's obvious that the casino would want you to register first or loging to view the bonus so that your curiosity can easily be converted to a deposit to chase the bonus. Pretty annoying for us players, but it works for the casinos obviously, so why change it?

But notice and adverts for members are directed on the requirements and terms of the said promotion. And it is normal for a banner that is directed at non-members to land on the registration page. Besides I believe upon registration the link to Terms and Conditions is there along the checkbox and before the confirmation since most asked the new player if they agree to the terms of the casino.

But well I do sympathize with @OP since often times I am also too lazy to explore the casino just to check the terms and requirements of certain promotions. It do give convenience of the subject of interest is just a click away.

Doesnt really need to everything to be spoonfeed because those links or places are just within reach on which it would really be that in default that they would really be having that corresponding terms and conditions which is really that understandable if we are really that in dealing with casinos and registering neither on a banner or a direct link.

I dont really know on why people still make out discussions on how things should goes? It doesnt really matter because you would be still ending up on landing on website page registration link
whenever you are tending to deal up with that current bonuses or promotions.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Casinos can be vague at times, and I do agree that some of their adverts should really be redirected to the terms and conditions. For unregistered users of the platform, of course it's obvious that the casino would want you to register first or loging to view the bonus so that your curiosity can easily be converted to a deposit to chase the bonus. Pretty annoying for us players, but it works for the casinos obviously, so why change it?

But notice and adverts for members are directed on the requirements and terms of the said promotion. And it is normal for a banner that is directed at non-members to land on the registration page. Besides I believe upon registration the link to Terms and Conditions is there along the checkbox and before the confirmation since most asked the new player if they agree to the terms of the casino.

But well I do sympathize with @OP since often times I am also too lazy to explore the casino just to check the terms and requirements of certain promotions. It do give convenience of the subject of interest is just a click away.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 08, 2023, 10:29:20 PM

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Those promos ain't useless dude,... remember that's exactly the same reasons why they're being paid for; you won't expect them to organize a sort of - giveaways without earning from it.
Anything that'll be of good benefits to the masses , that's done to promote a casino must certainly have terms and conditions... which means they're not actually free, there are taskes to perform to get them.

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