A simpler version of demerits: "dmerits" for every X merits earned - page 3.

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

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Quote from: BenCodie on February 26, 2024, 07:54:05 AM

- How many merits to earn 1 dmerit?

That should be at least 100 Merit per 1 deMerit. And, to up the stakes, using 1 deMerit should reduce your own Merit count by 10. Let's make it a challenge.

Quote from: OcTradism on February 26, 2024, 09:26:16 AM

demerit with 569 demerits.

You're misreading this data. The "569" is the sum of all deMerits plus the Merits sent by "userID 0".

Hatchy

sr. member

Activity: 336

Merit: 365

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on February 26, 2024, 09:54:03 AM

Furthermore, if have a demerit system, users with bad intentions or those with personal problems could ruin another's reputation without good enough justifications, disqualifying purely on their arbitrary ideas without something that really justifies it.

I Wonder why this suggestion still stands for some members as it literally makes no sense why we should have a demerit system.
Would op be happy to wake up and see all his merit burned same way he had mentioned? If it were a good suggestion like those I've seen from so other members, the forum admin, Theymos would have by now implemented it on the forum. But it's of no use and it's function is still unreasonable.
This suggestion would only complicate more things on the forum. As no member will be Happy having seen their merits removed. For me, the trust system is good and enough to punish any spammer it offender like stated on the first op. If someone goes on spamming or abusing the merit system then they should be tagged as enough negative tags from dt members on their account will render it useless.

my vote is no. my answer is simply because there's no good reason provided by OddJobsForBitcoin for this suggestion to be implemented.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Altcoinstalks uses it . We could use it but it only is a way to fuck around with peoples heads.

I know this forum and people may gang up on someone to strip enough merits to lower someones rank.

Others would rally round and add merits to help the guy out and it would be a fucking mess..

Forsyth Jones

hero member

Activity: 1120

Merit: 540

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on February 26, 2024, 08:21:29 AM

You see the demerit idea will only bring more reasons for people to just ruin the account of others by constantly demeritting those they hate.

I agree with @Mia Chloe's idea, in addition, it's already very difficult to climb the rankings after implementing the merit system, which means that good posters are not recognized enough and while some users post things without much meaning they gain more merits than the others.

Don't get me wrong, I think the merits system is working very well and fulfilling its purpose, but as not everything is perfect, if it's already difficult to climb the rankings, imagine if we had a demerit system, the intention is good, but the opposite effect can also occur, this can make good posters or newbies simply give up on the forum, especially newbies who are just joining and are faced with the giant challenge of at least progressing to Sr. Member.

Furthermore, if have a demerit system, users with bad intentions or those with personal problems could ruin another's reputation without good enough justifications, disqualifying purely on their arbitrary ideas without something that really justifies it.

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legendary

Activity: 1064

Merit: 1298

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Let me start by saying demerit would be rubbish. Theymos knew this and that was why he did not included it at all. This forum is good as it is. Just only merit and smerit system is enough. Nothing should be added as we are achieving good post quality. If demerit is going to be added, it is not going to cause any increase in post quality. Or why did you think it would be better if it is added? I see no good reason.

OcTradism

hero member

Activity: 1722

Merit: 801

Themos drafted this idea in Merit & new rank requirements but he states clearly that he does not want to deploy it.

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 06:00:11 PM

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

theymos actually stepped in and did some demerit transactions in Bitcointalk merit transaction history.

If you see some bad posts received merit, you can report it to theymos and hopefully demerit transactions will be executed by theymos.

demerit with 569 demerits.

Plaguedeath

hero member

Activity: 854

Merit: 663

The suggestion is good, but it won't work, why? because people are scared.

Take a look with the current trust list and feedback, many users are afraid to distrust the big names even though they makes mistakes e.g. leave a negative feedback due to personal conflict, leave a positive feedback because the user kind, has higher position etc. Instead of correct their mistakes, you could be distrusted by them even you have no mistake and most people will silent because they're also scared.

Merit is only for high quality post, right? but there are some people get merit by posting an image without any words. If it's posted by respectable user, will you believe someone will dmerit his post? I bet no.

Mia Chloe

sr. member

Activity: 448

Merit: 560

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Firstly let me start by asking, where is this merit demotion idea coming from? If it is from altcoin talk well it won't work. The merit system has been around for a couple of years now and if you ask me , it is actually doing its job of fishing out spammers.

As long as the merit circulation on this forum is going as expected there should be no need for these suggestions. I am very sure Theymos is at the back door watching everything on this forum no wonder he hasn't been accepting merit source request for quite some time now since the merit system is quite ok as we speak.

You see the demerit idea will only bring more reasons for people to just ruin the account of others by constantly demeritting those they hate.

None of these really matters since theymos decision is what counts but I doubt he will agree with this. He will probably ignore like most times .

BenCodie

legendary

Activity: 1666

Merit: 1037

All credit/merit should go to OddJobsForBitcoin's thread, "Hey Theymos, There Should Be a Demotion Button" for the inspiration of this simplified idea that may be easier to implement.

Poll: Should "dmerit" be added to allow a member to demerit (-merit) another member?
- Yes.
- No.

Specification:
- Demerit a member = burn x merit and log the burn in the profile.
- Effect: 1 dmerit -1 merit
- 2 (or more, TBD) Merits earned = 1 dmerit

Discussion guidelines
- If discussing please stay on-topic and provide constructive feedback, not drama or unrelated discussion.
- Discussions and suggestions for a 2nd refined poll would be appreciated.

First thoughts:
- How many merits to earn 1 dmerit?
- Would a tweak to smerit like 1 merit = 1 smerit be appropriate if dmerit were implemented?
- Why would anybody not want this (if they either aren't an alt account or a poor community member/pest?)

Votes reasoned in thread (votes made in poll):
- Yes 0 (1)
- No 0 (2)

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