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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 09, 2023, 05:19:09 PM

I wouldn't call any strategy that works superstitious. What OP did wasn't anything strange or unseen. A gambler who thought to have a lucky streak continuing to play until he loses everything. That's one of the most common things in gambling if you ask me.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

For sure is a good strategy to play when luck is on our side, but the problem is to know when the good streak will end because that's the point when people send their balance to zero.

Martingale is for sure a good strategy with the right luck but is about the long run to have a bad ending. If we set a goal before starting the session that would help us to walk away sometimes with the money.

How do you know when luck is on your side?

There is no way to know if you are really lucky but player get a grasp of it and think they are lucky when they won in consecutive huge bet. I think you will also believe that you are lucky if you hit a lottery Grin

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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 09, 2023, 05:19:09 PM

The problem people have is they overestimate their luck and their abilities. They think they can keep wining and make gambling into a job. They can't!
Martingale isn't a good strategy.

I think it is not overestimating but rather they failed to recognize when to stop. Martingale has its own strength and weakness which is controlled by the ability of a player to know when to stop.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on January 09, 2023, 04:38:56 PM

If luck was something that was easy to get, or had algorithmic instructions which we could follow in order to create a lucky event, I think physicists probably might have noticed already. Personally until we find a way to replicate lucky events 100% every time, I will not believe in luck. But who knows what superstition actually is and what it is not? Perhaps in the far or near future we could discover luck is actually an integral part of physics and maybe we will even figure out how to manipulate luck.

Best not to count too much on coincidences to start boasting of having discovered a luck formula. Roll Eyes

There is no luck formula because the same as you, I also think luck does not exist. It is just a word to describe certain positive events that comes to a person way but scientifically, there is no such thing as luck but only chance.

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I wouldn't call any strategy that works superstitious. What OP did wasn't anything strange or unseen. A gambler who thought to have a lucky streak continuing to play until he loses everything. That's one of the most common things in gambling if you ask me.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

For sure is a good strategy to play when luck is on our side, but the problem is to know when the good streak will end because that's the point when people send their balance to zero.

Martingale is for sure a good strategy with the right luck but is about the long run to have a bad ending. If we set a goal before starting the session that would help us to walk away sometimes with the money.

How do you know when luck is on your side? The problem people have is they overestimate their luck and their abilities. They think they can keep wining and make gambling into a job. They can't!
Martingale isn't a good strategy.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

If luck was something that was easy to get, or had algorithmic instructions which we could follow in order to create a lucky event, I think physicists probably might have noticed already. Personally until we find a way to replicate lucky events 100% every time, I will not believe in luck. But who knows what superstition actually is and what it is not? Perhaps in the far or near future we could discover luck is actually an integral part of physics and maybe we will even figure out how to manipulate luck.

Best not to count too much on coincidences to start boasting of having discovered a luck formula. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

There's no other things which we could determine that we are lucky but on the time that we are experiencing some wins which it is really that something very common.There's no other things on this world which

could really influence your luck factor or chances which it really comes in a random way on which there's no way you could say that you would be lucky on a particular moment.This is why we should make ourselves

that realize thats not how things do works.If you do keep on pushing then it would really be ending up for yourself to be that desperate which is something
that you should really be putting up into your mind always.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

For sure is a good strategy to play when luck is on our side, but the problem is to know when the good streak will end because that's the point when people send their balance to zero.

Martingale is for sure a good strategy with the right luck but is about the long run to have a bad ending. If we set a goal before starting the session that would help us to walk away sometimes with the money.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

Many things had been happening whether we believe in luck or not but what I know is that I don't try to gamble too much when I am losing. I do make sure I limit the way I gamble so that I will not lose all my gund because of greed of optimistic zeal of winning the next one. I have had big loses at sometimes in my life and I'm still accepting my fate.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 08, 2023, 04:59:00 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 08, 2023, 03:42:49 PM

It's not a strategy because you don't have to think about it, you'll wait for the result to come, and then if it's favorable to you then you'll figure out that you're lucky if you're winning at most times. But if not, then that means you're not lucky and just losing everything you've got. And if there's someone that has been doing this strategy for so long and only gambles to continue when he's lucky, and then stops completely when for the first few bets he's already losing.

Exactly!

You cant call it a strategy since you are just basically be doing up those casual actions or moves that you had on the time you do engage a particular gambling game.If it do turns out to be positive or profitable then
it would be normal that you would be thinking that your current strategy is working.

Just like been said that there's no thing on this world which would affect or increase your winning chances or probability or simply luck on dealing with a gambling game considering that
everything is random. Never make yourself been pushed on believing on things which are impossible to point or notice it out.

You can notice if you think that you're lucky and that's through having a winning streak. You decide if that's luck with you or you're the one who's genius and you're beating the house.
But even if you think that you're not lucky and you're just able to beat the house, it's not an action that will be like that forever. You'll also start to get beaten eventually with an idea that goes by the play with whatever you'll try to do, you win some and yet you'll still lose and it cannot be skipped.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

There's clear line between luck and strategy which every good gambler ought to understand. There are times in gambling that all you need to get winnings is nothing short of a strategy to use, strategy is an approach, a tactics you need to follow with to get what you want out of your stake. Gambling is like a Warfield, you don't go to war without strategizing on how to go about it and just be hoping on luck, as lucks follows after a good strategy led down.
Superstition has no place in gambling ,if you were lucky to win on one day or two or more straight up, you weren't lucky without a play pattern which is strategy itself.

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Quote from: uneng on January 09, 2023, 01:50:00 PM

Quote from: Emitdama on January 09, 2023, 10:50:22 AM

First time to hear that game called casino war so I got curious and do more investigation, only to found out that this game was a card game but AFAIK, the martingale method mainly works in dice games. Maybe this was the reason why you aren't successful at the end. If happens that you win at your early tries then you should also learn how to stop.

Martingale can be applied to every gambling games around. You can use it even for sports betting. The problem is that this strategy is never going to work for too long, despite the game you are playing. OP may say it's about luck, but I say it's about playing against a slight house edge of 1%-2% which is inevitably going to smash gamblers' winning probabilities on long run. Martingale works in the same way for every games, though.

Logically right, Martingale strategy can be applied to every games whatever type is it, to the extent that you can also use it in sports betting but along the way suffering from huge losses might take place, without luck losing streak can be more than your expected numbers and adding to that is the house edge which really killing your bankroll in the long stay inside the game.

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Quote from: pixie85 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:21 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 09, 2023, 07:26:38 AM

When you play dice and if you win, the best thing is that if it's enough you manage to have that part of the balance for you to enjoy and the other part for you to continue enjoying it, what happened to you happened to me a lot, and you feel Too bad for losing that way, because at one point you have a good balance, and then if you start playing later you lose it, it's not pretty, it's not nice, you can even get sad, and with every reason, but the advice What I give you is, try not to use the martingale (the first option), the other thing is that when you have good profits, half will laugh (you must enjoy what you tried) if you lose your other half it doesn't matter, that can happen , but at least you removed the other one and enjoyed it, that's better than losing everything.

That's right. When you win enough to have doubled your starting deposit you should withdraw it and have fun with the rest without fear or remorse.

OP won some money and couldn't stop thinking about it, wanted to keep playing. Came back and lost it all and it did not happen because of luck or superstition. It happened because you can't keep winning in a game of chance. Most people lose so if you managed to win you should have at least take your profit and have a break instead of coming back the same day.

I'm not superstitious but your luck has its limits.

Well, most gamblers have that kind of mentality. Test the luck up until you have no more bankroll to play with.
That is true, if you want to make sure you have something at the end of the day. Better keep your profits aside.
Just play what you have and if you lose it, then call it a day. Go back when you feel you are refresh for the day.
Because any superstitious belief doesn't matter if you don't have your luck on your side, particularly with luck-based games.
You can't test to what extent you will have your luck in your games. It just comes and goes without a warning.

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What will show us that we are on our lucky day? I don't think we can test our lucky day. :) We can make some choices by relying on our feelings, but they cannot give us a clear result. However, making some totems while betting can be mentally beneficial because people look for a foothold in difficult situations. Totems do not logically have a ground of evidence, but psychologically they do manage to establish a point of origin. Frankly, I don't think totems can change the result, but I don't think they are harmful either. I wish everyone good luck. :)

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 09, 2023, 07:26:38 AM

When you play dice and if you win, the best thing is that if it's enough you manage to have that part of the balance for you to enjoy and the other part for you to continue enjoying it, what happened to you happened to me a lot, and you feel Too bad for losing that way, because at one point you have a good balance, and then if you start playing later you lose it, it's not pretty, it's not nice, you can even get sad, and with every reason, but the advice What I give you is, try not to use the martingale (the first option), the other thing is that when you have good profits, half will laugh (you must enjoy what you tried) if you lose your other half it doesn't matter, that can happen , but at least you removed the other one and enjoyed it, that's better than losing everything.

That's right. When you win enough to have doubled your starting deposit you should withdraw it and have fun with the rest without fear or remorse.

OP won some money and couldn't stop thinking about it, wanted to keep playing. Came back and lost it all and it did not happen because of luck or superstition. It happened because you can't keep winning in a game of chance. Most people lose so if you managed to win you should have at least take your profit and have a break instead of coming back the same day.

I'm not superstitious but your luck has its limits.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

You're mixing the idea of luck (or natural variance) with the idea that you are following a strategy. Firstly, "Martingale" is an utterly trash concept and you will always run out of money before the casino does, so it has no longevity. Anyone who believes that it will benefit them should not partake in any form of gambling because they simply have not accrued the education or knowledge required that would tell them what a terrible concept it is. You also mention superstition in the thread title which is another huge warning sign, that word is often associated with desperation and desperate people often make very bad choices in an effort to improve their situation - like gambling what small amount of money they have away because someone dangles a large amount of money in return (with odds so high you'll never win)

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 09, 2023, 01:31:42 PM

Quote from: BobK71 on January 09, 2023, 08:55:32 AM

Luck and strategy are two different things. But the importance of both is much greater in gambling platforms. Some gamblers use luck as the only tool, while many place a lot of emphasis on strategy. But a gambler must proceed by applying his own strategy and then rely on luck. As a strategy a gambler can find various ways that may seem superstitious in reality but there is no way to ignore it.

Right, Luck and strategy are two different things. but don't forget, both are related to each other. if the strategy is not accompanied by luck, it seems that the victory will never come. and if you only expect luck, then don't expect much if it's not based on strategy and all that kind. in essence, what do you expect from your gambling session. if you only want to get a big win, then you have to make various efforts including implementing patterns, strategies, methods, and the most important thing is luck. if you are just playing for fun, then do it without the hope of getting a high win.

In essence, there is no formula that works 100 percent accurately when it comes to gambling, be it strategies, methods, patterns and all kinds of things without being supported by luck.

and you can only tell that you are in luck once your game is over. because while playing you can't determine if luck is on your side. let's say, you win, then you lose, then win again. how can you gauge such luck? this is a very subjective topic in my opinion. whatever strategy you want to apply, you can never tell when exactly will your luck hit on your games.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

Since gambling. is only depended upon luck so I think yes it is a good thing that you play gamble when you feel that you are lucky. Since you are lucky you keep on winning the games and as soon as you started to lose one or two games you quit for the day.
Similarly when you are unlucky you will realise it as soon as you lose 1 or 2 games then you quit for the day and restart gambling on the next day. It's no use keep on gambling and keep on losing , better wait for lucky time to gamble.

Although i don't believe in superstitions but for gambling yes the superstitious does play out. Try to experiment and you will see that they are some days when you are lucky and their some days when you are completely unlucky.

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Quote from: Emitdama on January 09, 2023, 10:50:22 AM

First time to hear that game called casino war so I got curious and do more investigation, only to found out that this game was a card game but AFAIK, the martingale method mainly works in dice games. Maybe this was the reason why you aren't successful at the end. If happens that you win at your early tries then you should also learn how to stop.

Martingale can be applied to every gambling games around. You can use it even for sports betting. The problem is that this strategy is never going to work for too long, despite the game you are playing. OP may say it's about luck, but I say it's about playing against a slight house edge of 1%-2% which is inevitably going to smash gamblers' winning probabilities on long run. Martingale works in the same way for every games, though.

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Quote from: BobK71 on January 09, 2023, 08:55:32 AM

Luck and strategy are two different things. But the importance of both is much greater in gambling platforms. Some gamblers use luck as the only tool, while many place a lot of emphasis on strategy. But a gambler must proceed by applying his own strategy and then rely on luck. As a strategy a gambler can find various ways that may seem superstitious in reality but there is no way to ignore it.

Right, Luck and strategy are two different things. but don't forget, both are related to each other. if the strategy is not accompanied by luck, it seems that the victory will never come. and if you only expect luck, then don't expect much if it's not based on strategy and all that kind. in essence, what do you expect from your gambling session. if you only want to get a big win, then you have to make various efforts including implementing patterns, strategies, methods, and the most important thing is luck. if you are just playing for fun, then do it without the hope of getting a high win.

In essence, there is no formula that works 100 percent accurately when it comes to gambling, be it strategies, methods, patterns and all kinds of things without being supported by luck.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

Not really, because how do we know that luck is going to appear during our gambling session or not? There are usually not many streaks like you had, at least for me I usually play around the 50% winning/losing ratio. How many games would it need for you to find out that today is a lucky or unlucky day? And once you start gambling to find out how lucky you are things could turn around quickly again. I had nights that start very terrible and I still managed to make a profit in the end. Martingale is a good strategy in my opinion and I use it quite often. It does require a lot of capital and time to be successful with it, and one bet can make the difference between having a good night and a bad night. It only takes one win to recover all our previous losses. Having superstitious based strategies in gambling is not a good in my opinion.

That's true, it's really not a guaranteed thing to know beforehand, and after you start you get to see how it goes as well. I believe that we shouldn't be really focusing on a good or bad day, but more like good or bad period as well.

Like there are whole weeks that are good or bad, I remember having one week where all of my sports betting hit, and I made like x4 return easily, and then another week I lost bets that were seen as sure things, like under 1.30 odds and still lost all of them. That's why it's quite important to know which one is better and how we should be doing etc etc. It's very important because it gives people a chance to back out if they are unlucky.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.

Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.

Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

Does it make sense to talk about luck in Martingale if the algorithm is exactly like this: many small wins (or short series of losses that are covered by one increased bet) and only one series of losses when you lose the entire deposit. Do you think you were lucky that you didn't immediately hit a long losing streak? Maybe you are right, but the probability of this is initially small.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 08, 2023, 03:48:15 AM

Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?

Every gambler has their own drive for gambling, and while some people only gamble believing in the luck of winning before they hit the casino, when they get lucky on the first and second occasions and lose on the third, they then tap into their emotions to try and recover the loss. This goes on and on until all funds are finally lost. If you encounter more losses, you can take a break.

When luck appears on my side, I can't possibly say it's a good strategy because I can't specifically say for sure when there are chances of it happening; it just comes and goes at any time. This morning you are winning, and the next morning you are losing.

Quote from: Emitdama on January 09, 2023, 10:50:22 AM

If happens that you win at your early tries then you should also learn how to stop.

Take a rest for a day or two because it's also not possible to win consistently

Exactly the point: after winning the early games with the martingale strategy, the OP should have taken a rest since the other trial was not favoring his luck. When at a casino, it is not advisable to gamble with emotions, because one may encounter more losses than wins.

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