There's always the other side of the story for each of those parasites. There are poor people but they're not parasites that are opposites to the description that you've given.
There are also rich people who are not parasites and they're living normally and want to contribute and opposites the description that you've given.
The sad truth is that there really are people that don't want to contribute to the economy and going up of a country. They're as is what it is with their living.
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It is a term that can hardly be attacked in parallel with the simile that it intends to refer to, with parasites any simple treatment can end them ...
It is a question that regardless of the social class is moral, cultural, it seems there is no remedy in certain individuals, fortunately it is not the collective as a rule to be parasites, that is, I firmly believe that regardless of the social classification, if they are poor or rich, people hate, they refuse to fall into that status.
However, it is a reality of the influence of the environment in which this group of people subsist, except individual incurable parasites, I believe that the more protectionism there is on the part of those in charge of reducing this type of behavior (governments) it cannot be fought, it requires creating strict social plans, egalitarian laws, etc.
So from that point of view we could "save" the parasitic group that is the one that really harms and is the one that can be cured, the rest that remain (individuals) die being poor or rich parasites.
It is a question that regardless of the social class is moral, cultural, it seems there is no remedy in certain individuals, fortunately it is not the collective as a rule to be parasites, that is, I firmly believe that regardless of the social classification, if they are poor or rich, people hate, they refuse to fall into that status.
However, it is a reality of the influence of the environment in which this group of people subsist, except individual incurable parasites, I believe that the more protectionism there is on the part of those in charge of reducing this type of behavior (governments) it cannot be fought, it requires creating strict social plans, egalitarian laws, etc.
So from that point of view we could "save" the parasitic group that is the one that really harms and is the one that can be cured, the rest that remain (individuals) die being poor or rich parasites.
In politics and economics, I can live with many things, but there is two types of people that I just cannot stand:
The poor parasite
The poor parasite intends to live without adding any value to the economy and society in which he (or she) lives. He will look and learn about all the possible ways to trick others into paying his bills, caring for his children and providing. If that does not happen, he will create social unrest, commit crimes or be a problem for the rest.
Due to this people, many think that poorer people should be left to their own means and that any opportunity you give them is money wasted.
The rich parasite
The rich parasite intends to live without adding any value to the economy and society in which he (or she lives). He will look and learn about all the possible ways to avoid contributing to the country or state he lives in, while demanding full legal protection of his assets and lifestyle. If that does not happen, they will create social unrest, take funds to tax havens a pay politicians to make his will.
Due to this people, many think that rich people should be taxed to death and that the political systems is essentially corrupt.
Both are parasites, both damage the economy.
Excellent Analogies I have to say. Especially the Rich Parasite thing is essentially what is more dangerous, it's because these type of people are using the resources of the country to generate their persona wealth but are not adding to the country or state they live in. Talking about poor parasites I can only think of extreme socialists who just want the state to do everything for them and they could just rest for whole their lives, 2nd category of people are eventually coming down because in today's world there is no free lunch but the first type of people are definitely increasing each day. The poor parasite
The poor parasite intends to live without adding any value to the economy and society in which he (or she) lives. He will look and learn about all the possible ways to trick others into paying his bills, caring for his children and providing. If that does not happen, he will create social unrest, commit crimes or be a problem for the rest.
Due to this people, many think that poorer people should be left to their own means and that any opportunity you give them is money wasted.
The rich parasite
The rich parasite intends to live without adding any value to the economy and society in which he (or she lives). He will look and learn about all the possible ways to avoid contributing to the country or state he lives in, while demanding full legal protection of his assets and lifestyle. If that does not happen, they will create social unrest, take funds to tax havens a pay politicians to make his will.
Due to this people, many think that rich people should be taxed to death and that the political systems is essentially corrupt.
Both are parasites, both damage the economy.
Anyone can be a parasite be rich or poor. I still think the rich could be a worse drain if they become parasitic because of the sheer amount of money they can siphon if they've become "too big too fail". Anyone remember those millionaires coming in on their private jets to ask for bailouts? It's ridiculous and disgusting.
And they don't even need to be corrupt to do damage! Governments in general, tend to be inefficient at using money since after all, it's not their money and there's always more they can take from. I believe in some places there are even rules where certain departments would have to use up the fund allocated to them so they end up using it for things that don't really add value.
There is one more even bigger parasite and that is government with all their politicians, and this parasites lives from everyone else including rich and poor parasites.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with crazy rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with crazy rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
And they don't even need to be corrupt to do damage! Governments in general, tend to be inefficient at using money since after all, it's not their money and there's always more they can take from. I believe in some places there are even rules where certain departments would have to use up the fund allocated to them so they end up using it for things that don't really add value.
The middle class is the one that is getting screwed and these days we are seeing that middle class is getting closer to poor class more and more. However in a world where someone literally used government pay out to go to space for fun is not the time to say poor class is doing something wrong. If we have people who are leeching welfare and basically just getting help from the government without putting anything into the world, it could be mainly because the government doesn't support them at all as well.
The fact is that if I end up studying, graduate college, get a good grade, become an engineer, and earn a 100k-120k in USA right now, I would live a life a mechanic would earn and I wouldn't have to be an engineer that studied so much for that, I could basically get night school and intern at a mechanic and become something like that and make that kind of money. This is why I understand poor class because if I am not going to be rich, then I rather be not be middle class as well and that's their thought.
The fact is that if I end up studying, graduate college, get a good grade, become an engineer, and earn a 100k-120k in USA right now, I would live a life a mechanic would earn and I wouldn't have to be an engineer that studied so much for that, I could basically get night school and intern at a mechanic and become something like that and make that kind of money. This is why I understand poor class because if I am not going to be rich, then I rather be not be middle class as well and that's their thought.
There are very wealthy people that exist who are horrible people, but owning wealth does not make you inherently evil or parasitic, and on the same note, being poor does not mean you are lazy either.
I second that, and actually I believe it's not mandatory that a rich person touches the lives of others in society, don't get me wrong, morally it's right that if you're so wealthy you should impact the lives of others as it would cost you little or nothing, but not doing so doesn't make you a horrible person, at least that's how I see it, except such Individual is part of the government as I feel it's the duty of the government to try its possible best to make sure it's citizens lead a very good and comfortable life.I also believe that being poor doesn't automatically translate into the ideology that the person is lazy, I absolutely agree with you on that, there are quite a lot of other factors that can play a part in a person being poor, and mind you that there are hard-working people that aren't rich, there's just no straightforward way to decide these sort of things.
I agree with you on this . both are parasitic , the rich are worse off because they know they can contribute enough to help , instead they make it worse than by creating social unrest. If you want to get rid of the parasite of wealth, you should first nullify private ownership of property/land, as every land owner has can earn rent and live forever on passive rent income but all of them are people with high status in society.
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It's become the norm to pit the rich against the poor, and create extreme animosity. The political revolutionists just want to get anyone they can on board to push whatever political agenda they can. Whatever display of moral virtue they may choose, those demonizing the rich with extreme vitriol do so out of their own self interest, which has profound irony within itself.
There are very wealthy people that exist who are horrible people, but owning wealth does not make you inherently evil or parasitic, and on the same note, being poor does not mean you are lazy either.
Both are parasites, both damage the economy.
The two parasites works hand-in-hand and are the problems that we have in the society. The poor parasites you have described here are the same ones that collect pennies from the rich parasites and are then used to carry out whatever foolish plans than the rich have, and thereby creating social unrest most of the times.Seriously I don’t like these kind of people, they are the worst you will ever have in a community, they are a problem anywhere they are and they don’t want the society to rest for some reasons that are best known to them, they usually form groups that terrorize the society, because they benefit from such evil acts.
About the rich, they do add value sort off during their investment in the country that adds to the GDP and increase per income to their employees. The employees are made responsible to their families as they paid and they take care of their children, send them to school, feed and provide shelter.
The rich also add value because of different types of taxes levied against them and their businesses. The monies being generated from that are used to provide social amenities to the people.
Likewise not all the poor are parasites. Some poor have good knowledge to be better but may lack capital to do something with their knowledge. The poor are employed in government and they develop good policy to the government, they are very dedicated to work for progress to the area of life they find themselves.
The rich also add value because of different types of taxes levied against them and their businesses. The monies being generated from that are used to provide social amenities to the people.
Likewise not all the poor are parasites. Some poor have good knowledge to be better but may lack capital to do something with their knowledge. The poor are employed in government and they develop good policy to the government, they are very dedicated to work for progress to the area of life they find themselves.
No, the "rich" parasite does not add any value by paying others. He is not creating anything for anyone. You do not understand the difference between money and value.
Please, read a bit more carefully and see if I say that all poor are parasites in any part of my post.
The rich is paying some one else, that is creating a job. How can you say that isn't creating something?
Yes I really would think that paying some one else that is creating a job is adding value from the angle I'm coming from, by not generalizing. Some rich people may have given jobs to subordinate illicitly or for illegal purposes and for selfish purpose but at the point the money is paid it helps the next man to sustain and better their lives. I wonder how OP can push that away as not value
Wages and salary are part of value at least considered as immediate value. Example Elon musk is creating value by pumping dogecoin and hodlers are making profit from that and that is immediate value but whatever is done with the proceed of the doge pump IMO may be the after effect but initial value has been created which is an opportunity of itself. 
And of the two, the worse one are the rich people, for they have the capacity to help and to make something happen by doing even just the bare minimum like paying taxes and whatnot yet still evades doing so. Whereas the poor people don't much choice or options for themselves, and even so that does not make them any better than the rich guys. These two parasites really eat up the society bit by bit, and start lots of unnecessary things in order to justify their needs, and why they should be favored over other people.
This is why we can never achieve utopia. A small group of people will always find fault in everyone else and always look to trick the honest guys into doing their dirty work for them.
This is why we can never achieve utopia. A small group of people will always find fault in everyone else and always look to trick the honest guys into doing their dirty work for them.
There is one more even bigger parasite and that is government with all their politicians, and this parasites lives from everyone else including rich and poor parasites.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with their rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with their rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
You are questioning the need for a government on the grounds of being unnecessary to build roads and having people working on it that do not add value.
I agree that governments tend to be inefficient, not necessarily run by parasites (no more than in other places anyway), as they do some work, even if you consider it does not add value for you individually.
Road can be privately financed. The problem is that is an approach that tends to widen the wealth gap between different parts of a nation or territory and generates social tension. There is case for private road and a case for public works.
There is one more even bigger parasite and that is government with all their politicians, and this parasites lives from everyone else including rich and poor parasites.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with crazy rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
This corrupt lazy parasite is damaging economy even more with crazy rules and regulations, and it is destroying people with inflation, constant rising of taxes, and reducing freedom of people.
And please don't tell me that we can't built roads or live without government, because I am sure that we can.
Unfortunately this two class of parasites are amongst us and always looking for ways to create social, political and religious unrest amongst people in the society just to satisfy their selfish ego, and the most annoying part of it is there is nothing anyone can do to remove them from the society, so we can only learn to leave with them.
I couldn't agree more with OP. The problem is the culture and the adults that should be guiding aren't doing their jobs. Doesn't matter if it isn't perfect, abut at least there should be efforts! And another problem are those who do not have adults to guide them. They make the world their enemies and refuse to change for the better because of hate and self pity. But even so, there are others who rise above difficulties and choose to be a better person.
About the rich, they also make me sick. But at least in a way, they contribute a little to the country even when it is involuntary. But other than that, I don't see any other good thing these two types of people that op has mentioned.
About the rich, they also make me sick. But at least in a way, they contribute a little to the country even when it is involuntary. But other than that, I don't see any other good thing these two types of people that op has mentioned.
Always think that education and people are realized for the rights and knowledge of how to deal with the spirit of law makes those parasites die, the fatten does not live only in a dirty environment or a lot of defects can through to live.
In the upscale systems be the choice of power is making the other party power, the rich realized it and their strength in their wealth so they will try to protect them, no matter how it is because they are like the homeland, because they are caused by their strength.
The poor are also sometimes government employees and other celebrities have little privileges and will die to preserve them.
In the upscale systems be the choice of power is making the other party power, the rich realized it and their strength in their wealth so they will try to protect them, no matter how it is because they are like the homeland, because they are caused by their strength.
The poor are also sometimes government employees and other celebrities have little privileges and will die to preserve them.
Both the rich and poor parasites are parasites because somebody allows them to be parasites.
By "somebody" I mean the government and the society.
The government and the society tolerates tax evasion conducted by the rich people and the poor people being spoonfed by the state.If the government and/or society forces the rich and poor people and stop being parasites,then most of them will stop being parasites and start contributing to the society.
Maybe some rich people will just leave the country and go live somewhere else,we can't do anything about it.
Some of the poor people will keep doing crimes,but they will have to face the consequences(going to jail).
By "somebody" I mean the government and the society.
The government and the society tolerates tax evasion conducted by the rich people and the poor people being spoonfed by the state.If the government and/or society forces the rich and poor people and stop being parasites,then most of them will stop being parasites and start contributing to the society.
Maybe some rich people will just leave the country and go live somewhere else,we can't do anything about it.
Some of the poor people will keep doing crimes,but they will have to face the consequences(going to jail).
Both are parasites, both damage the economy.
That may be true (and I believe it is, though I don't think I'd use the term "parasite" to describe wealthy individuals), but your examples represent two extremes ...The term parasite describe some rich and some poor. Not all of them certainly, as said before in response to another poster.
It is curios how most people do not consider the rich a parasite, because he pays for his (her bills). However, this is not about how much you own, but about how much are you delivering to the society and to others. If the answer is "just taking", the wealth you own is irrelevant.
Both are parasites, both damage the economy.
That may be true (and I believe it is, though I don't think I'd use the term "parasite" to describe wealthy individuals), but your examples represent two extremes which probably make up just a small percentage of all the citizens of, let's say, the United States.In the case of rich people, I would say that there are more parasites among those who have inherited wealth, rather than among those who create it.
Certainly. The fact that the very richest obtain most of their wealth not through income but through returns on existing capital is one of the main arguments in favour of a wealth tax (however impractical that may be to implement).
Interestingly, lots of the things I depend on today are from the poor. I think I could survive with them alone if I have no other means to survive, but I doubt the rich can sustain me if I live with them only. To be honest, I can't live in a society without the poor but I can live in a society without the rich. Doesn't mean I don't like the rich but I doubt they can sustain themselves alone without the poor. .
The problem is simply those who are not fruitful whether poor or rich.
The problem is simply those who are not fruitful whether poor or rich.
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