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Topic: A Trump audit should prohibit him from running in 2024. - page 3. (Read 665 times)

legendary
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Somehow you think that a President suddenly acts illegally, when all the while he is surrounded by some of the best lawyers and others who know the law. I would like to make excuses for you. Trump doesn't need any.

Excellent point.  He has the best lawyers and others who know the law.  Why hadn't I thought of that?


The excuses for you are that you didn't look at the legality point I mentioned above, and that Trump would have declassified any docs that needed it. This is only standard, for his own protection.

So, maybe Biden reclassified them. But all we need is proof that Trump declassified them... or not. Since this proof has not been presented one way or the other, and a person is innocent until proven guilty, so far Trump is innocent.

Or do you have the proof? Like the FBI and the Dems, all there seems to be so far is talk that he is guilty. So far, at best, there might be only unproven circumstantial evidence, but all the talk is hearsay.

However, the Biden regime and the FBI have done things that are illegal, no matter what the outcome for Trump may be.

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Literally doesn't matter if he declassified any of it.  Read the espionage act.



Anybody can have an opinion about guilt in any case. Since we probably will never know the complete details of the case if it goes to trial, any branding of Trump other than innocent until proven guilty is hearsay. However, anybody who pushes the hearsay hard enough, is setting himself up for a slander suit.

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legendary
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Somehow you think that a President suddenly acts illegally, when all the while he is surrounded by some of the best lawyers and others who know the law. I would like to make excuses for you. Trump doesn't need any.

Excellent point.  He has the best lawyers and others who know the law.  Why hadn't I thought of that?


The excuses for you are that you didn't look at the legality point I mentioned above, and that Trump would have declassified any docs that needed it. This is only standard, for his own protection.

So, maybe Biden reclassified them. But all we need is proof that Trump declassified them... or not. Since this proof has not been presented one way or the other, and a person is innocent until proven guilty, so far Trump is innocent.

Or do you have the proof? Like the FBI and the Dems, all there seems to be so far is talk that he is guilty. So far, at best, there might be only unproven circumstantial evidence, but all the talk is hearsay.

However, the Biden regime and the FBI have done things that are illegal, no matter what the outcome for Trump may be.

Cool

Literally doesn't matter if he declassified any of it.  Read the espionage act.

legendary
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So do you guys think Trump didn't steal boxes of National Security related documents on his way out of the White House?

Or do you think a US President on his way out of office should be able to take government records that are classified at the highest levels to keep for himself, in his basement?

Or do you just defend Trump at all costs no matter what?

I don't think any of you are idiots (notice I didn't include BADecker), its just baffling to me how irrational you all act when it comes to anything related to liberals or Trump. 

Somehow you think that a President suddenly acts illegally, when all the while he is surrounded by some of the best lawyers and others who know the law. I would like to make excuses for you. Trump doesn't need any.

The excuses for you are that you didn't look at the legality point I mentioned above, and that Trump would have declassified any docs that needed it. This is only standard, for his own protection.

So, maybe Biden reclassified them. But all we need is proof that Trump declassified them... or not. Since this proof has not been presented one way or the other, and a person is innocent until proven guilty, so far Trump is innocent.

Or do you have the proof? Like the FBI and the Dems, all there seems to be so far is talk that he is guilty. So far, at best, there might be only unproven circumstantial evidence, but all the talk is hearsay.

However, the Biden regime and the FBI have done things that are illegal, no matter what the outcome for Trump may be.

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legendary
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So do you guys think Trump didn't steal boxes of National Security related documents on his way out of the White House?

Or do you think a US President on his way out of office should be able to take government records that are classified at the highest levels to keep for himself, in his basement?

Or do you just defend Trump at all costs no matter what?

I don't think any of you are idiots (notice I didn't include BADecker), its just baffling to me how irrational you all act when it comes to anything related to liberals or Trump.  It's like trying to talk to a die hard Yankees fan in October while he's drunk
 about the Red Sox.

legendary
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Notice how the focus is on the FBI. I wonder what the CIA and the NSA are doing. Do you think that the major FBI people are securing a future position in some other clandestine organization for when the time that the people tear the FBI down? Maybe they are doing like the KGB did when the Soviet Union crashed... moving into formal government control. Maybe they are there already.

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The unexpected FBI raid on Donald Trump's Florida residence on Monday signaled a rapid uptick in the number of inquiries against the former president, and it raised new legal issues that, in theory, may change the outcome of the presidential election in the United States.
That's because some have said that Mr. Trump could be constitutionally barred from seeking the presidency again if the investigation, which is apparently related to his handling of sensitive presidential records, results in a conviction.
So let's examine this more closely. How far have the investigations into Mr. Trump come along, according to the FBI search, and might he truly be dissuaded from running in 2024?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62487602

I don't think the FBI accusations carry as much weight as you think they do.  After this disgrace of a witch hunt against a former US president, I would say the FBI is a couple of years away from being completely gutted.  Sure, they're going to do everything they can to stop that.  Which means more witch hunts and shady behavior.  One thing I do know, the credibility of the FBI has to be at an all time low.  As we move into a new future where funds are surveyed on blockchains and the digital world becomes more relevant, I think organizations like the FBI and the IRS will find themselves dinosaurs clutching to influence. 
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That's because some have said that Mr. Trump could be constitutionally barred from seeking the presidency again if the investigation, which is apparently related to his handling of sensitive presidential records, results in a conviction.
The qualifications for someone to be eligible to serve as President of the US are:
*Be a natural-born citizen of the US
*be 35 years old
*be a resident of the US for 14 years

It is not a requirement to not have a politically motivated prosecution by the party in power against the leader of the opposition party.

It is not possible for Congress to impose additional qualifications above the above-cited qualifications. This is something that was decided in US Term Limits, Inc v Thornton. The Supreme Court ruled that the requirements to hold office stated in the Consitution are the only requirements to hold said office. The case in question was regarding the ability of state legislatures to impose additional qualifications to become a Congressman, but the principle applies to the office of the president as well.

I'm torn on whether democrats actually want Trump to run in 2024 or not.
I think they want him to be part of the political conversation. Trump is someone to motivates his opponents to vote. Democrats have little more than abstract failure to run on, but if they can make the election about Trump, their turnout will be greater than it otherwise would be.

It is hard to say if they actually want him to run again. There are a lot of people who believe the election was held in a way that was unfair to Trump in 2020. There were also many people who voted for Biden because they believed he would be moderate, and a unifier, both of which turned out to be false. Early polling generally shows Trump with a modest lead against both Biden and Harris in a 2024 matchup.
legendary
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Trump popularity should allow him to be President almost without running. The only reason why the Dems are advertising for him is, they are lost, and they know it. They are grasping at any straw they can think of, to the point of destroying themselves if only to take him down.

The interesting thing is, DeSantis would be way more damaging to the Dems. If Trump failed, DeSantis is what we would get.

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legendary
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I'm torn on whether democrats actually want Trump to run in 2024 or not. If they want to bar him from running over a document dispute, in which they waited 18 months to pursue, then I question which one of the remainders in the field they would rather have as their opponent. Ron DeSantis? Ted Cruz? The republican nominee could be any sentient human and walk away in a landslide. Trump is the only person democrats could beat.

I'm more inclined to believe the radicals in the Biden Department of Justice want to energize Trump and his base to win the nomination in 2024. This way democrats have a beatable candidate in the general. So they'll go as far to conduct an FBI raid, but won't actually prosecute him and bar him from running.
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The unexpected FBI raid on Donald Trump's Florida residence on Monday signaled a rapid uptick in the number of inquiries against the former president, and it raised new legal issues that, in theory, may change the outcome of the presidential election in the United States.
That's because some have said that Mr. Trump could be constitutionally barred from seeking the presidency again if the investigation, which is apparently related to his handling of sensitive presidential records, results in a conviction.
So let's examine this more closely. How far have the investigations into Mr. Trump come along, according to the FBI search, and might he truly be dissuaded from running in 2024?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62487602
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