Topic: A vaccine buffet. - page 2. (Read 473 times)

Also had a colleague at work who got his booster shot with Pfizer, after two shots of AZ. Unfortunately, the AstraZeneca vaccine and its recorded side effects cases also impacted vaccine credibility for a large amount of people, including anti-vaxxers who used it as a stepping stone to bash on vaccinations, based on a limited number of cases. Unfortunately, it could also have assisted in my parents not wanting to get vaccinated, despite them being over 50-60 years old, with a few underlying conditions.

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 09, 2022, 09:16:00 AM

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and a very bent dick known as peyronie’s disease

Comes from butt-fucking.

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 09, 2022, 09:16:00 AM

treatment for the bent dick involves massage and bending it straight.
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Nah, you're doing it wrong.  What you wanna do is wrap the base in a bunch of duct tape, get a long pipe which fits pretty well down to the bend, then give it a good reef.

This is just how good science works. The advice is always "This is what we think right now, but the advice may change as new evidence emerges".
Initially the data on vaccine efficacy and safety came from the trials data, which was obviously based on single supplier. It wasn't that you shouldn't mix vaccines because that's bad, it was that you shouldn't mix vaccines because we don't know yet how safe or effective it will be.

Since then more than 10 billion doses of vaccine have been administered worldwide, and a lot of data have become available on safety and efficacy of mixing vaccines, for whatever reason (supply issues, concerns over a particular type of vaccine, etc).

"First they said this, now they're saying this instead" is evidence of good science. Changing your opinion based on the data is a strength, not a weakness.

She dodged multiple bullets so to speak.

she had an unknown underlying condition.

silent acid reflux which was caused by an still other underlying condition. a surface level liver cyst.

the liver cyst was big 690 ml almost the size of a bottle of wine.
that pressed on her stomach
that leaked enzymes rather than stomach acid so the reflux was painless.
when the enzymes get into her throat and lungs 🫁 they basically predigested the surfaces which is why the covid found a nice home.

she was in hospital jan 7 to jan 13 2020. they did not quite clear the infection
so she had a low fever on and off from jan 13 to march 17. a newer doctor gave her the anti viral valtrex
it knocked out the fever it never came back.

but the lungs were still being stressed by the digestive enzymes.

multiple doctors and finally in oct we rushed her to emergency room they figured out the cyst issue as it had swelled to 690 mm almost ¾ of a quart

they drained it. so the stomach was not pushed the digestive enzymes stopped stressing her
lungs. they gave her steroids the 400 day coughing finally stopped may of 2021.

we were very lucky that the gp guessed to give her an antiviral in march 2020. that killed off the virus 🦠

her oxygen went from 92 to 98 her heart went from 110-115 to 70-75

btw that is a way a lot of people die from covid. your body will rece the heart up to get a decent oxygen level. and if your heart cant run high and fast for a long time you die.

Can not tell you how fortunate we are to have survive this shit.

oh we did lose a relative to covid fall of 2021.  she feared vaxxing. she went to a funeral of a covid victim caught the delta and she died at 67 last fall.

 

I find the whole thing confusing. Like first they are telling people that they shouldn't mix the vaccines and now they are telling us that just whatever, that it doesn't matter.

Glad you've both made it through okay, and particularly your wife as her experience sounds pretty horrific.

I'm interested in cases from late 2019. I had Covid-like symptoms in November 2019, normally I am lucky enough to be able to shake off viruses quite quickly with only mild symptoms, but this one hit me much harder than usual. I've heard a few other stories of similar experiences from around the same time, we were told it wasn't Covid-19 as it wasn't here (the UK) at that point. I suppose we'll never know, but I do wonder.

I had covid strain one coming out of Italy to New York
I had pfizer vacs 1,2
I had very mild covid delta
I took pfizer booster.

so three shots
and two covids
so far I am still here.

Damage done =

 sense of smell is poor
and a very bent dick known as peyronie’s disease
 
treatment for the bent dick involves massage and bending it straight.
my wife has been doing a lot of work on this with me and it is now straighter

most men are too embrassed to talk about this but you do not want to get it from covid or any other reason.


my wife had

covid strain one
two pfizer shots
very mild delta
third pfizer shot


she was very very very sick from covid one which we got dec 2019

she had 2x pneumonia
was in hospital two times in 2020
her lungs took from jan 2020 to june 2021 to heal
she is one tough bitch
i am a lucky guy to have her as a wife.

Continuing on with the 'Ivermectin experiments'...

It continues to be the case that nearly everyone I know have a situation where their whole families have periodic shitty feeling episodes which often include a short-duration fever.  There are actually helicopters flying over my city at a MUCH higher rate than was the norm (poor country) and people are getting suspicious, but in fact the same things health things are being reported (to me) in more rural areas where a helicopter is never observed.

Several days ago I woke with a sore nose/throat yet again, and yet again it progressed into body aches over the day (although more joint aches than a genuine sickness several weeks ago.)  As an experiment I went ahead and downed a few Ivermectin.  By the normal 6 hours I was feeling at least not worse.  The next 24 hours felt kinda crappy (and kinda 'zoned out' or 'relaxed' which is common for me with this drug) but less crappy than I would have predicted given the instigation of this 'flu'.  The next day (today) I was feeling more crappy so I downed one more.  Now, about 6 hours later, I feel pretty 'great', but also a little 'relaxed' as mentioned above.

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Relatedly and more on-topic, my country (of current domicile) has every 'covid-19 vaccine' known to man by this point so it seems.  A lot of it 'donated' by wealthy countries.  When it expires, someone in 'authority' signs a paper saying that the expiry date is 'extended' and still good-to-go.

There seems to be kind of a kind of a competition between the 'big fish' local officials who've authorized 'big fish' jabs (Pfizer,  Moderna, Sinovac, etc) and smaller local officials who seem to have something going with the various smaller pharma companies to help in testing out their wares.  in my area here was some Taiwanese and another Chinese testing going on replete with reports of police telling unsophisticated rural farmers that they would go to jail if they refused the jabs.  The big-fish seem to have caught wind of it and have now made laws against more local operations.

In fairness, I should say that these are things I've read somewhat in the local papers and somewhat from what I've heard word-of-mouth on the street, and neither source is particularly reliable, but it's exactly the kind of cluster-fuck which I would expect to see.  In point of fact, I chose a 'developing world' domicile (well before the scamdemic started), precisely BECAUSE I predicted a disorganized cluster-fuck in SHTF scenario.  A more 'orderly' society could efficiently march people right into the gas chamber.  A less organized country should have a lot more out-of-the-way holes to hide in.  Seems to be playing out just as I projected.

Fortunately for me is has been a LONG time since I expected any government to help with my protection in almost any way and my default position was to just take that role on for myself.  My taxes are nothing more than the extortion fees I pay for corp/gov racketeering, and I certainly don't expect effective oversight of financial or medical systems as part of the deal.  Thus it's not a big deal to move to a less 'developed' society.  Soon we'll see the effects of 'natural selection' pressures differentiating people who, by nature, loved big brother and those who don't.  I'm cautiously optimistic that the dynamics will favor me.

This may have happened to an extent in my country (UK) too, where AZ was the main vaccine, but became the subject of media scare-stories (driven in part, I'm sure, by some understandable anti-UK sentiment coming from the continent).

This has led to a situation where many people here are mixing vaccines. My first 2 shots were AZ, but the booster was Pfizer. I didn't have any choice over this, the decision was made for me by the NHS.

Interestingly, there are studies* that suggest a mix-and-match vaccine buffet may confer greater protection than staying with a single manufacturer.





* Anti-vaxxers take note: the Professor Snape in this video is not the character from Harry Potter.

It seems the brands available did played a part in vaccine hesitancy. In my country it took months for vaccination to take off. What was mostly available from the national government was Sinopharm. Not much people show up that some vaccination centers close early in the afternoon. When polled people said they really wanted to take a vaccine and afraid of getting infected but they don't want anything from China. The local governments decided to buy Western brands and the national government eventually followed suit.

Got the Pfizer (the first non-China brand that arrived) and got 2 doses. Did felt slight chest pains initially though I haven't got myself tested yet (I'm broke). Convinced me to not take boosters.

OP, your first responder gives good advice. You waited this long why decide to get the potentially unsafe shots now?



You nailed it perfectly, thank you good sir.

I prefer the mRNA ones because they have the "cleanest" process. They're 100% created synthetically in a lab, with no ingredients from animals, and they contain just the lipid-encased mRNA and some inactive ingredients which I consider to be about as harmless as water. The flu vaccine for comparison is usually either grown in chicken eggs or in cells taken from dogs, which I see as a much "dirtier" process. Between Pfizer and Moderna, there doesn't seem to be a big difference. Pfizer has seen wider usage and testing, while Moderna seems to evoke a stronger immune effect. If I was worried about vaccine side-effects, then perhaps I'd prefer Pfizer, while if I had a weakened immune system, perhaps I'd prefer Moderna.

J&J, AstraZeneca, and Sputnik-V are very similar to the mRNA ones in that they contain genetic code which causes your body to create spike protein, but instead of delivering the genetic code directly via mRNA, it's delivered via a modified adenovirus. Some people are concerned about being injected with genetic code, and such people should not feel any better about J&J/AstraZeneca/Sputnik-V than Moderna/Pfizer, since it's basically the same idea. Involving the extra adenovirus seems like an additional complication and source of possible side-effects to me, and it seems that these vaccines are somewhat less effective than the mRNA vaccines, so I don't like this technology as much as mRNA. J&J was originally touted as only needing one dose, but from what I've heard more recently, it sounds like this was mainly a difference in marketing, and J&J should've really had 2 doses as well to evoke the same immune response.

The mRNA vaccines have been very rarely associated with myocarditis (especially in young men), while the viral-vector vaccines have been very rarely associated with serious blood clots (especially in young women). If you have a choice between them, perhaps you should therefore take your sex into account. Myocarditis is a more common side-effect for the mRNA vaccines than the blood clots are for the viral-vector vaccines, but it's also less likely to be serious.

For those worried about the genetic code aspect, Novavax, Sinopharm, and CoronaVac use a more traditional vaccine manufacturing process where they inject you with inactivated versions of the virus (Sinopharm and CoronaVac) or just pure spike protein (Novavax). However, these types of vaccines need to contain an adjuvant, a drug which boosts your immune response. Sinopharm and CoronaVac use aluminium hydroxide as the adjuvant, which I would not particularly want to be injected with because there is some slight evidence that it could have neurological side-effects. Novavax uses an adjuvant which comes from the soap bark tree, which sounds a bit better to me because it's more natural, though there hasn't been much study on long-term effects of this AFAIK. I personally feel a lot better with the vaccines which don't need to contain this additional adjuvant drug, but if you're nervous about the genetic-code aspect, you might weigh the risks differently than me.

So my final ranking would be:
 1. Pfizer / Moderna
 2. AstraZeneca / J&J / Sputnik V
 3. Novavax
 4. Sinopharm / CoronaVac

If I was afraid of getting COVID, then I'd take even the Chinese vaccines if that was all that was available. They're probably no worse than some over-the-counter drugs in terms of safety, and they will provide some protection from COVID. If I would only be annoyed to get COVID, then I'd personally probably only accept the other 6 vaccines I mentioned, and I'd greatly prefer the mRNA ones.

I already got the Pfizer one - but only because the choice was either that or Sinovac. So far hasn't died yet and hopefully not dying within 5 years.

Sincerely, this is the piece of information that is not really made relayed to individuals before vaccine administration and I feel its very wrong. Of course the names might be mentioned but with the free nature of it and the fact that, only a type might be administered within a region by government authorised agencies, one is left without the option of choice.

Just like this user rightly said, he got exposed after taking a vaccine. I get the point that, government and its agencies are doing what they could to ensure the vaccines is made available to everyone within a short time but, merely asking what are the allergies a person might have doesn't seem like enough as, a few others aren't even aware if they've got one.

Unfortunately, I had no option to choose which vaccine I should take. The educational institution was opened in a hurry and the only condition was to be vaccinated. And the vaccine called AstraZeneca was being given at the health complex next to where I live. Since I didn't have much time, I took the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Even after getting the vaccine, I was exposed to a new wave called Omicron, Bad Luck! Not only me but almost everyone has been affected. I think one should be careful not to rely entirely on vaccines. Nose masks and hand sanitizers should be used. It will be possible to reduce this epidemic if everyone is alert from their respective places.  But not to mention the vaccine, after the discovery and adoption of the vaccine, however, the Corona situation returned to normal.

Your thoughts are childish.
You don't have to leave yourself to fate, you have to fight.

The vaccine is designed to protect us from covid.

Yes, I don't disagree that there will be some side effects, but are you staying healthy without the vaccine?
Doctors would not insist on taking the vaccine again and again if the vaccine did too much harm.

Do a 360 and moonwalk away.

Pretty sure I had the Delta vaccine..

Seems to be working well..

I said nothing whatsoever about 'covid-19'.  I said whatever I (and seemingly practically everyone I know in the country) had recently was in my case, and several people's, put to an end with Ivermectin.

Looks like 'covid-19' is a catch-all for a variety of similarly developed biological agents released onto a population, and also a re-name for various other ordinary ailments such as seasonal influenza.  Also the label the stick on ailments such as bacterial pneumonia and fungal infections which are significantly aggravated by careful chosen policies such as recommending/demanding the use of cloth masks.

More and more the word 'covid-19' is synonymous with gene therapy side-effects which is exactly what I predicted would happen before they even started mass-jabbing people under EUA.

Anyway, looks like Ivermectin was kind of a sleeper wonder-drug which helps with a very wide range of issues.  To the degree that the gene therapies work by infecting cells with designer genetics, Ivermection may well be effective against harm from the so-called 'covid-19 vaccines' as well.  No wonder they went full-court press on stamping out Ivermectin.  As usual, the sheeple took the 'horse pasted narrative' hook-line-sinker...and many extra will be maimed or die because they did.

You're providing no valid sources whatsoever, while still claiming that a drug that still doesn't have sufficient testing against Covid-19, is a safe and effective treatment for patients. In the meantime, you're against vaccinations which have already proven effective, it doesn't make any sense.

On top of that, Ivermectin founders have indeed won the Nobel prize, but that has nothing to do with Covid-19, but only for its ability to battle parasitic worms. Winning the Nobel prize doesn't make it a Covid-19 treatment.