A weird belief among some gamblers. - page 8.

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Quote from: Juse14 on August 25, 2023, 12:38:38 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 24, 2023, 05:57:42 PM

Today I am going to tell you something that ridiculous to me or out of my mind that it's so hard for me to believe that it just a coincidence.
Yesterday there was an accident on the road between a car and a motorbike, to my surprise my friend stopped writing the number of the motorbike and car and when I got home my friend opened a gambling site playing roulette and placed a bet on that number and I asked him why he made this stupid bet. the numbers on the roulette game from an accident and he just answered trying his luck.
After that I was shocked and held my head because the bet chosen by my friend got a multiplier of 100x and the ball stopped at that number and I thought was it luck or just a coincidence and to this day I still think about ridiculous things but it gives good luck.

a lot of people do things like that, but whether it's a coincidence or how I don't know..? but many people do just that.
but what made me wonder, instead of people rushing to help people who had an accident, what they did was they were competing to record numbers.

it was just a coincidence that made his friend lucky. even though some people believe in such things, but still in the game there will be winners and losers.
and the numbers only give suggestions and belief in someone. I'm sure if there was a similar incident and his friend repeated that kind of thing he wouldn't have the same luck either.
something like that will only foster someone's obsession with winning.

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One thing I've observed among gamblers and especially the chronic ones is that they're always very superstitious in their beliefs about gambling. They can believe anything that'll grease their decisions in putting more effort in gambling in other to get huge winnings which are most fallacious.
Gambling in my own opinion isn't about how experienced one is but how lucky one can be b t most of them thinks that their experience and knowledge about gambling can help them in winning their stakes

You've got a point about gamblers being superstitious, clinging to whatever beliefs make them feel like they've got an edge. But let me tell you, gambling isn't just some roll of the dice; it's not merely luck. The best poker players, for example, know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. It's about strategy, observation, and making calculated decisions

Don't underestimate the role of knowledge and experience; they're invaluable assets in gambling just like they are in the business world. While luck plays a role, sure, saying it's all about luck oversimplifies the skill sets involved. Gamblers, chronic or not, who rely solely on luck? They're the ones who end up penniless

I understand what you mean, and it seems like what was said before was not in that game. Allow me to give an opinion on this, experience and knowledge for analysis are needed in some types of betting, for example sportsbet, but for other games such as slot games for example it can be said to depend on luck completely. Maybe some people will play on slot games that have a high RTP, but does it work? not everyone succeeds by applying it and again luck plays a role in it.
Unlike the case with sportsbet, we can definitely see which club is most likely to win, it can be seen from the strength of the two parties who will compete, but that is also still the influence of luck.

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Quote from: Cookdata on August 22, 2023, 04:03:27 PM

If you beg to differ, then I will say that you are wrong, first for generalizing gamblers as potential addict, I gamble too and I lost some money today, I have stream Netflix and I have forgotten I lost money today and for today lost, that's all till next week, and I will only play if there is a good match for me to pick, I play and don't expect anything even the ones I do have high hope of making good result; if it fail, I move on.

I would agree with the member you quoted (I didn't feel like including all that text in my reply) if he'd written "problem gambler" instead of making a statement about gamblers in general. It's the same thing as a problem drinker possibly being a true alcoholic--it all depends on how prone a person is to addictive behaviors and how far he/she continues the problematic behavior.

Not all gamblers are addicts or even have a problem with gambling. But man, I've met alcoholics and serious gambling addicts and they are very similar in how they think when they're in their active addiction--and the devastation a gambling problem can wreak is no joke. People can and do lose everything.

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Quote from: Blowon on August 24, 2023, 01:27:52 PM

it's just a coincidence, if they are asked to repeat the same thing then the guess is not necessarily correct. I think they are also pretty good at guessing and have confidence that their guess is right, well it could happen but it also might not happen. the presentation remains the same will be 50:50. meaning it's not something strange, it's normal in my opinion.

yes, I believe for sports betting, cockfighting and other similar types of gambling, a 50:50 ratio of defeats and wins in this bet we only need to improve our analytical skills and also absorb information.

But I believe there are several types of gambling games that rely solely on luck, such as slots. I never use any special pattern to play it and it is totally depend on luck. In this game I only control the amount of bets and spending so I don't cross the line.

Quote from: klidex on August 24, 2023, 05:57:42 PM

Today I am going to tell you something that ridiculous to me or out of my mind that it's so hard for me to believe that it just a coincidence.
Yesterday there was an accident on the road between a car and a motorbike, to my surprise my friend stopped writing the number of the motorbike and car and when I got home my friend opened a gambling site playing roulette and placed a bet on that number and I asked him why he made this stupid bet. the numbers on the roulette game from an accident and he just answered trying his luck.
After that I was shocked and held my head because the bet chosen by my friend got a multiplier of 100x and the ball stopped at that number and I thought was it luck or just a coincidence and to this day I still think about ridiculous things but it gives good luck.

a lot of people do things like that, but whether it's a coincidence or how I don't know..? but many people do just that.
but what made me wonder, instead of people rushing to help people who had an accident, what they did was they were competing to record numbers.

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watching slot gambling people or games, thinking that slot patterns can control winnings is just nonsense. because I watched my friend gamble twice at different times with the same pattern, it was considered that winning ended in losing. and thinks it's the best strategy for his trust. I just stay silent with respect not to spoil the mood they do when they lose or win

Well there's no such strategy or pattern in slots to make you win, so if you still think like that you need to open your eyes and read about provably fair system. If there's a strategy or pattern in slots, you must be rich since you know how to beat the house and you wouldn't lose. Since you're lose by trusting your friend's pattern, you can't blame him since in the end it's your decision.

I'm talking about a friend of mine who superstitiously believes in pattern strategy and ends up losing. of course no bookies want to lose to gambling members who always win. in terms of playing gambling calculations that often occur minus, that too is different for each person big or small number of people who often play gambling

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 24, 2023, 09:03:34 AM

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One thing I've observed among gamblers and especially the chronic ones is that they're always very superstitious in their beliefs about gambling. They can believe anything that'll grease their decisions in putting more effort in gambling in other to get huge winnings which are most fallacious.
Gambling in my own opinion isn't about how experienced one is but how lucky one can be b t most of them thinks that their experience and knowledge about gambling can help them in winning their stakes

You've got a point about gamblers being superstitious, clinging to whatever beliefs make them feel like they've got an edge. But let me tell you, gambling isn't just some roll of the dice; it's not merely luck. The best poker players, for example, know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. It's about strategy, observation, and making calculated decisions

Don't underestimate the role of knowledge and experience; they're invaluable assets in gambling just like they are in the business world. While luck plays a role, sure, saying it's all about luck oversimplifies the skill sets involved. Gamblers, chronic or not, who rely solely on luck? They're the ones who end up penniless

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Quote from: irsykes on August 25, 2023, 10:11:12 AM

watching slot gambling people or games, thinking that slot patterns can control winnings is just nonsense. because I watched my friend gamble twice at different times with the same pattern, it was considered that winning ended in losing. and thinks it's the best strategy for his trust. I just stay silent with respect not to spoil the mood they do when they lose or win

Well there's no such strategy or pattern in slots to make you win, so if you still think like that you need to open your eyes and read about provably fair system. If there's a strategy or pattern in slots, you must be rich since you know how to beat the house and you wouldn't lose. Since you're lose by trusting your friend's pattern, you can't blame him since in the end it's your decision.

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Quote from: irsykes on August 25, 2023, 01:38:56 AM

more correctly. hope for something that will change fate, but hope too much and believe. it will just self destruct in the end. it could be true, superstition and hope this seems to have become a culture of people who want to have great luck. there is no speculation in such a world there is only ruining the wallet

That's why we can't ask them not to believe in such superstitious things but they still can't because it's a part of their culture that they can't be separated from. Those who believe in superstitions think that what they do can sometimes give them victory because several of them have proven it. So there's nothing to keep them from using superstitious things like that as long as they still want to use them. Well, that's okay too because it's based on what they believe and of course, we don't have to think about things like that because we don't believe it ourselves.

Because some people who already believe in superstitions may have difficulty explaining it in gambling because they think that by using superstitions they will get great luck, but on the contrary if someone who does not believe in superstitions then what he will say is just nonsense.
Of course, we also cannot blame other people if we play gambling with such beliefs, because everyone has their own views on gambling and in the end everything will come back to themselves.

Some may believe that there's something rituals to do so that they may find comfortable upon gambling. Some other don't but at the end of the day we should respect individuals belief since if that can make them gain confidence and positivity towards on the games they play then I can say all if fine then nothing wrong with those superstitious matter what other people believe. But if we look at it on scientific perspective well we can say that there's basis on what other extra activities they do and winning chances still the same.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 25, 2023, 05:31:39 AM

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Quote from: irsykes on August 25, 2023, 01:38:56 AM

more correctly. hope for something that will change fate, but hope too much and believe. it will just self destruct in the end. it could be true, superstition and hope this seems to have become a culture of people who want to have great luck. there is no speculation in such a world there is only ruining the wallet

That's why we can't ask them not to believe in such superstitious things but they still can't because it's a part of their culture that they can't be separated from. Those who believe in superstitions think that what they do can sometimes give them victory because several of them have proven it. So there's nothing to keep them from using superstitious things like that as long as they still want to use them. Well, that's okay too because it's based on what they believe and of course, we don't have to think about things like that because we don't believe it ourselves.

Because some people who already believe in superstitions may have difficulty explaining it in gambling because they think that by using superstitions they will get great luck, but on the contrary if someone who does not believe in superstitions then what he will say is just nonsense.
Of course, we also cannot blame other people if we play gambling with such beliefs, because everyone has their own views on gambling and in the end everything will come back to themselves.

watching slot gambling people or games, thinking that slot patterns can control winnings is just nonsense. because I watched my friend gamble twice at different times with the same pattern, it was considered that winning ended in losing. and thinks it's the best strategy for his trust. I just stay silent with respect not to spoil the mood they do when they lose or win

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Quote from: irsykes on August 25, 2023, 01:38:56 AM

more correctly. hope for something that will change fate, but hope too much and believe. it will just self destruct in the end. it could be true, superstition and hope this seems to have become a culture of people who want to have great luck. there is no speculation in such a world there is only ruining the wallet

That's why we can't ask them not to believe in such superstitious things but they still can't because it's a part of their culture that they can't be separated from. Those who believe in superstitions think that what they do can sometimes give them victory because several of them have proven it. So there's nothing to keep them from using superstitious things like that as long as they still want to use them. Well, that's okay too because it's based on what they believe and of course, we don't have to think about things like that because we don't believe it ourselves.

Because some people who already believe in superstitions may have difficulty explaining it in gambling because they think that by using superstitions they will get great luck, but on the contrary if someone who does not believe in superstitions then what he will say is just nonsense.
Of course, we also cannot blame other people if we play gambling with such beliefs, because everyone has their own views on gambling and in the end everything will come back to themselves.

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Quote from: irsykes on August 25, 2023, 01:38:56 AM

more correctly. hope for something that will change fate, but hope too much and believe. it will just self destruct in the end. it could be true, superstition and hope this seems to have become a culture of people who want to have great luck. there is no speculation in such a world there is only ruining the wallet

That's why we can't ask them not to believe in such superstitious things but they still can't because it's a part of their culture that they can't be separated from. Those who believe in superstitions think that what they do can sometimes give them victory because several of them have proven it. So there's nothing to keep them from using superstitious things like that as long as they still want to use them. Well, that's okay too because it's based on what they believe and of course, we don't have to think about things like that because we don't believe it ourselves.

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Quote from: klidex on August 24, 2023, 05:57:42 PM

Today I am going to tell you something that ridiculous to me or out of my mind that it's so hard for me to believe that it just a coincidence.
Yesterday there was an accident on the road between a car and a motorbike, to my surprise my friend stopped writing the number of the motorbike and car and when I got home my friend opened a gambling site playing roulette and placed a bet on that number and I asked him why he made this stupid bet. the numbers on the roulette game from an accident and he just answered trying his luck.
After that I was shocked and held my head because the bet chosen by my friend got a multiplier of 100x and the ball stopped at that number and I thought was it luck or just a coincidence and to this day I still think about ridiculous things but it gives good luck.

This is ridiculous indeed, and as hard as it is to believe, things like this still happens, Ive had a similar experience when I was selling in a shop with a friend of mine, when one evening around 5 pm, a mad man walked into our shop and went straight to my friend, he was the owner of the shop, the mad man gave him a piece of paper that has some numbers written on it, the mad man asked him to go play those numbers in a lotto shop nearby, my friend collected the piece of paper, when the mad man walked out, my friend threw away the piece of paper, a customer passing picked the piece of paper and went and played the numbers, and by the next day, we heard he won over a million naira(in my country's currency).

So some time, things like this are really hard to believe, but then, they do happen.

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Gambling becomes addictive when its use becomes compulsive and out of control, because the brain system has been exposed to stimulating gambling. in my neighborhood a lot of people are already addicted to gambling, which has led to the superstition of placing high hopes on slots or gambling. and it is very difficult to awaken people who are addicted to gambling to the point that they have lost great wealth to the point where they have nothing. although I am a gambler not as bad as things that are self-defeating

In my opinion, not everyone who plays gambling is superstitious. Superstitions are often even used in things like medicine. If the person is playing gambling in a superstitious way, in my opinion this is something very stupid and a waste of time. Of course this will also be detrimental to ourselves because in gambling we cannot predict when we will win or lose.

I agree with you. As far as I know, superstitions are much like rooted in cultures and sort of a practice that we do in order to avoid bad lucks. Which, in my opinion, should not be involved in our gambling activities. For instance, if I saw a black cat, which means bad luck in our country, does this mean that I have to not engage in any gambling related activities in that day? or if my hands are itching, which means good luck in our country, does it guarantee that I will win my bet? If this is the case, then the person might end up losing great wealth for relying on superstitious beliefs. So, I believe that superstitions and gambling should not be involved with each other. This is just my opinion, it is still up on us.

more correctly. hope for something that will change fate, but hope too much and believe. it will just self destruct in the end. it could be true, superstition and hope this seems to have become a culture of people who want to have great luck. there is no speculation in such a world there is only ruining the wallet

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Quote from: Blowon on August 24, 2023, 01:27:52 PM

it's just a coincidence, if they are asked to repeat the same thing then the guess is not necessarily correct. I think they are also pretty good at guessing and have confidence that their guess is right, well it could happen but it also might not happen. the presentation remains the same will be 50:50. meaning it's not something strange, it's normal in my opinion.

There are people that are very good at guessing and if we eventually bet with them, we can make big loses if we are not careful. There are some gamblers that are very good at making predictions and most time they do have a 70% win rate which can be very profitable for them. There are some games that can even give us an 80% win rate but we can keep playing that king of game and still losing. We gamblers we need to know our ability and how far we can go as a gambler or else we might end up being a big loser without first knowing how it all started.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 24, 2023, 06:05:12 PM

One thing I've observed among gamblers and especially the chronic ones is that they're always very superstitious in their beliefs about gambling. They can believe anything that'll grease their decisions in putting more effort in gambling in other to get huge winnings which are most fallacious.

I also find it funny that many people who are hooked on gambling have lots of fallacy. They even think that pregnant women are lucky when they play card games so most of people in our community let their pregnant wife play in a card game.

Quote from: Docnaster on August 24, 2023, 06:05:12 PM

Gambling in my own opinion isn't about how experienced one is but how lucky one can be b t most of them thinks that their experience and knowledge about gambling can help them in winning their stakes

It depends on what type of gambling the gambler is playing. If it is a luck-based game then sure it is about luck but with skill-based games, experience and knowledge have a great effect on the possibility of winning for the gambler.

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Superstitions are but a scaffolding for the frail human psyche! Are they necessarily a sign of mental illness? No. They’re a coping mechanism, an attempt to explain the unexplainable, just like our ancient ancestors did with thunder gods and sea monsters. You bring up gamblers; they cling to superstitions as if these beliefs are their last life vest in a sea of uncertainty. This isnt some romantic notion; its desperation masked as belief. Humans try to create patterns out of chaos because facing the idea that their success relies on mere chance is too crippling for them. Superstitions are for those who cant face the raw brutality of reality

However, here we are discussing superstition in gambling, not like what our ancestors did by worshiping foreign objects or other creatures, but more about someone's belief that he can get good luck if he carries or has a mystical object or item that brings good luck.
This kind of belief has existed since ancient times but most have forgotten it, while this is one of the cultures that still exists today.

One of the effects of gambling addiction is that it leads to unconsciousness in the mind, so that it makes some statements that seem completely unreasonable where they put excessive trust in a victory and it is just a superstition but it is strange that they can be so sure about a victory that is very unlikely to be obtained. If someone is already experiencing phases like this with an unreasonable mindset then it is very dangerous, it is likely that they will sacrifice their future just for gambling, meaning that if they continue to do or pursue victory in gambling with such high confidence then it will only make them worse from anything, especially their finances, and their future will definitely be destroyed if they don't stop all that.
Gambling is all about luck, but we can't bring superstitions to increase our chances of luck in gambling because it's just nonsense and will only be an excuse if we lose in the end.

One thing I've observed among gamblers and especially the chronic ones is that they're always very superstitious in their beliefs about gambling. They can believe anything that'll grease their decisions in putting more effort in gambling in other to get huge winnings which are most fallacious.
Gambling in my own opinion isn't about how experienced one is but how lucky one can be b t most of them thinks that their experience and knowledge about gambling can help them in winning their stakes

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Quote from: Blowon on August 24, 2023, 01:27:52 PM

it's just a coincidence, if they are asked to repeat the same thing then the guess is not necessarily correct. I think they are also pretty good at guessing and have confidence that their guess is right, well it could happen but it also might not happen. the presentation remains the same will be 50:50.

I am also thinking that it's just a coincidence or just a personal belief that no one should take and copy his bets.

Quote from: Blowon on August 24, 2023, 01:27:52 PM

meaning it's not something strange, it's normal in my opinion.

Yup, it's not strange especially today when there are a lot of betting groups that are passing their leaders bet to the members. And as the members see the notification, they're going to copy what has been bet by that group owner.

So, there's no difference from the online and offline type of betting. We see people wanting to copy bets because they think that you're good in picking but you're all free to deny and reject them if you don't feel that you're going to allow them copy yours.

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Today I am going to tell you something that ridiculous to me or out of my mind that it's so hard for me to believe that it just a coincidence.
Yesterday there was an accident on the road between a car and a motorbike, to my surprise my friend stopped writing the number of the motorbike and car and when I got home my friend opened a gambling site playing roulette and placed a bet on that number and I asked him why he made this stupid bet. the numbers on the roulette game from an accident and he just answered trying his luck.
After that I was shocked and held my head because the bet chosen by my friend got a multiplier of 100x and the ball stopped at that number and I thought was it luck or just a coincidence and to this day I still think about ridiculous things but it gives good luck.

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it's just a coincidence, if they are asked to repeat the same thing then the guess is not necessarily correct. I think they are also pretty good at guessing and have confidence that their guess is right, well it could happen but it also might not happen. the presentation remains the same will be 50:50. meaning it's not something strange, it's normal in my opinion.

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After all, one should not be surprised at these things and talismans among such people. They wear what is important to them. Still, this has been going on since very ancient times, so we can say that it is inherent in the very human essence. Therefore, this is still found in the information age, with the Internet and other high technologies today.

I won't even be surprised if I have some kind of talisman in the near future.

until whenever such superstitious beliefs will always be something mysterious to gamblers or in the world of gambling and it will never go away. like some people I know while sleeping in a grave to get dreams and to be used to guess the numbers that will be used to buy lottery tickets and after that its lucky that person can get the jackpot from the lottery and sometimes I think is this a coincidence or is it true that dreams give something which we cannot see.
so that habits like this or even about talismans for gambling will definitely become one of the beliefs of certain gamblers and even in a country something like this has become a tradition or belief that brings good luck.

What you have said about dreaming numbers on a lottery ticket may come as a shock to someone. He could also spin around himself 3 times and think of the first numbers that come to his mind.

And if this person is lucky, he will tell and brag to all relatives and friends. And they, in turn, to everyone else, hence such superstitions are born. I won't judge them, it's perfectly natural. Moreover, I think that belief in superstitions and talismans will always exist.

That's how humans have the nature of trust in something that cannot be seen and prove in real, including superstition and amuits that he believes can provide luck and so on, and also rituals that make no sense like that will always be there, we who have A common sense about getting a blend of numbers with such rituals will certainly laugh, but they believe that the subtle nature gives them instructions, even though it is only hallucinating itself.

I found some people who did that, some were lucky with that method and gained a big victory, well as usual they would brag and believe that they had a good method, even though they were only lucky.

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