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.. on charges of paying 12 bitcoins ($ 5,000 at the time) for trying to hire a killer to kill his ex-wife
Wondering if this^ means that bitcoin was worth $5000 at that time, or the total of 12 bitcoins was $5000(at approximately $417 per coin)? Just trying to figure out exactly when this happened.



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Many people think that bitcoin transactions are untraceable and that they can be used to finance crimes "completely" anonymously. But the reality is that the bitcoin blockchain sometimes reaches out to security systems to handle cases more efficiently.
Well, nice! I guess this is part of the reason it was made a transparent Leger in the first place... And combining the transparency with proper privacy/anonymity makes things safer for innocent users.
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To resume this: bitcoin is safer than FIAT hidden in dark cases, since law agencies can track it and bust criminals so fast? That's good to hear.
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I don't like when something like this accident happens. It harms the Bitcoin reputation. Many people still associate Bitcoin with money laundering and illicit activity.

It makes sense to consider it relevant.
Because it is easier and more interesting for fraudsters to track it down.
The solution is to change the way we look and think.
And people should not think that bitcoin is just for money laundering.

Well I'm not surprised that the authority or someone keep track or trace the transactions made in crypto or bitcoin, it is because as the time goes by I know that the technology is becoming more powerful tool even in internet.

This woman's emotional decision had three consequences:
1- The woman herself is found guilty
2- Injury to the public mind
3- Destroying the face of Bitcoin
Of course, bitcoin is not destroyed by these actions, but this news can draw negative views towards bitcoin, and in this case, governments will take strange actions ...
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I was just watching about kinds of stuff like this on Youtube and she probably has been chatting with an agent. With the evil plan that she had, karma came to her quickly.

I hear that Bitcoin is use most in dark web for buying illegal things. Though I'm not 100% sure about that.  But in my opinion no one can trace Bitcoin transaction, this can be a reason why they use Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is not responsible for this. People illegal use and bad thinking responsible for this.
It is because it's untraceable and the girl was just traced through chat logs and on that log, there's the address indicated which led the investigators to an account on localbitcoins which had detected her.

On the internet we are giving a trace with the use of the different information we leave when we are using this do there is no doubt that the investigators will find out that mastermind which.
Yes. The investigators got the lead of tracing her and most logs and that's where it all leads everything. Those bitcoin addresses and the plan as in everything that in the chat logs are strong evidence to prove her plan.
Another reason why many still don't like bitcoin because of such news, they all think that bitcoin is just for this kinds of stuff.
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I don't like when something like this accident happens. It harms the Bitcoin reputation. Many people still associate Bitcoin with money laundering and illicit activity.
These kind of activities won't stop and it shouldn't harm Bitcoin's reputation at all since the same activities can be done with other currencies as well but with Bitcoin it's only going to be worse for them since everything is posted in the Blockchain and the authorities can easily gather evidence against the people involved. It only looks bad for Bitcoin because usually these bad news gain the attention of most people and those people don't even use Bitcoin to begin with.  
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Well I'm not surprised that the authority or someone keep track or trace the transactions made in crypto or bitcoin, it is because as the time goes by I know that the technology is becoming more powerful tool even in internet. But the thing is this woman did a stupid decision driven by her emotion she didn't think carefully and just hired a killer people now a days tend to do things before they think and this woman's doing could add a bad impression about bitcoin used for this kind of things which is not good for bitcoin industry. At least the authority manage to track the transaction and able to stop the crime, technology and internet now a days is getting more scary.
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I don't like when something like this accident happens. It harms the Bitcoin reputation. Many people still associate Bitcoin with money laundering and illicit activity.
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Though the bitcoin was definitely used in an unfortunate manner, well, in the end, it's just bitcoin being used the same way fiat money like the USD is being used. Surprise, I guess? Just a topic that got to the headlines because bitcoin is involved.

The rules for articles in the press now is that you need to attract readers by all means, and unfortunately, bitcoiners and crypto lovers are the prime targets, you put some good news, they immediately flood the net with links, you write something bad about bitcoin they immediately get triggered but nevertheless they still read the article. Easy money!

But in my opinion no one can trace Bitcoin transaction, this can be a reason why they use Bitcoin.
How it is possible to someone to trace the transaction of bitcoin?

Bitcoin is pseudonymous, besides,  :
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1319781/download

She gave the fake admin every detail needed to identify her by law enforcement agencies.
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Sometimes womens have really mad ideas...

These ideas are not for women or men, and sex discrimination cannot be discussed here.
People take crazy actions with misconceptions that are sometimes based on the lifestyle and influence of internet networks and movies.
Although this article is a small example of this, it was interesting because of the bitcoin debate.
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I'm not saying you copy-pasted this post, but since it sounds quite as if you did, you should add the source to your article, if not you will be banned for plagiarism.
I found the source just by searching what the title says here is the link Source.
I know that this kind of things aren't new in this world but I still found it scary how people could easily pay for someone else life to end and how they could live facing this world like nothing happens.
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It is difficult to believe these "stories". Can anyone be so dumb to actually hire a murderer for just $5,000? I still remember the case of Ross William Ulbricht. The FBI wanted to make sure that he remains behind bars for the rest of his life and it is being alleged that they created some fake web chats showing that he hired contract killers to take down his competitors. It is very easy to create fake web chats.

The important thing in this case is the name of Bitcoin.
I think governments want to make bitcoin look bad because the whole world depends on cash, and governments know that.
Bitcoin will take a lot of power from them.
Now, they may want to tarnish the identity of Bitcoin with news or fake deeds and pretend to people that Bitcoin is bad.



I could not believe that really some people can kill other people for bitcoin until I visited the darkweb. If you visit darkweb (I would highly recommend you not to) there are many websites and organizations there you can give them some bitcoins to kill anyone you want in all over the word. I even saw the option where you can could ask them for a body part or ask them to make it looks like and accident. Which really crazy and unbelievable to see some people created a website for it. I think these actions are really damaging the bitcoin reputation in all over the world to see the criminals are using the bitcoins (and recently sometimes monero) as the main currency for their dirty works.

I have seen these sites and I can say that more than 70% of them are either police or spies.
These are the only ways to trap criminals.
And the other 30 percent who use bitcoin, I think, is normal.
In the past, criminals traded in cash, gold, etc. and if Bitcoin can improve itself in terms of good deeds, it can show people what its true power is.



If someone can make use bitcoin to purchase any kind of commodities in some country, i think people can also use bitcoin to hire a killer or spear people life also.
For her to make use of bitcoin to hired that killer to kill for her,  it have no effect to bitcoin than to promote bitcoin how important it is a in country.
since the killer said she make use of bitcoin to hired him,very easy to trace if actually the court want to know the truth of the matter whether she make use of bitcoin for the payment to the killer.
Bitcoin will not slip with these actions and these violations.
All Bitcoin has to do is stay on track and show the world that it is not just for murder and theft.
Instead, Bitcoin is set to change cities and lifestyles.
And that only happens over time.



Anyway, this kind of hiring method is pretty old and they can be easily tracked now. Mostly, this kind of thing happened in the dark web because most of the underground transactions such as this are common there. Most of the time people who offer such services are just scammers and fraudsters but there is a tendency that you are talking to real criminals which were happened here in this topic. That's why of all the places on the internet you should avoid going to that place.



https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-avoid-dark-web/

In the past, it was difficult to trace these events. But now, with the advancement of police science, almost all roads are closed and people think that everything is like a movie and they can do anything.
Also, when you enter the dark web space, there are thousands of scammers, and if you lose property, nothing can be done.
And it is not only bitcoin that is traded on these networks, and today, as in the past, there is a large volume of cash transactions.

And this is a complete picture:



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Well we all know that the use of the bitcoin before it came with the darknet or the deep web they are using on the black market is the bitcoin is one of the easiest and secured transaction but the problem is do we really need to use this coin just to get a life of a person.

I was just watching about kinds of stuff like this on Youtube and she probably has been chatting with an agent. With the evil plan that she had, karma came to her quickly.

I hear that Bitcoin is use most in dark web for buying illegal things. Though I'm not 100% sure about that.  But in my opinion no one can trace Bitcoin transaction, this can be a reason why they use Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is not responsible for this. People illegal use and bad thinking responsible for this.
It is because it's untraceable and the girl was just traced through chat logs and on that log, there's the address indicated which led the investigators to an account on localbitcoins which had detected her.

On the internet we are giving a trace with the use of the different information we leave when we are using this do there is no doubt that the investigators will find out that mastermind which.
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I'm not saying you copy-pasted this post, but since it sounds quite as if you did, you should add the source to your article, if not you will be banned for plagiarism.

I have added the source. Sorry you did not read it:

According to coindesk Thirty-six-year-old Kristy Lynn Felkins has been summoned to court on charges of paying 12 bitcoins ($ 5,000 at the time) for trying to hire a killer to kill his ex-wife. The case is said to be related to another case involving the recruitment of a killer. It is worth noting that this killer was not hired in the end.

Also, I did not copy the text and turned it into an article.
And this statement of yours upset me. Sad



he means you should add the source link.
https://www.coindesk.com/nevada-woman-charged-in-bitcoin-murder-for-hire-as-a-mystery-hacker-again-turns-tipster

she ordered a hitman(s) in 2016. no wonder she paid 12 bitcoins which worth $5,000 at the time.

The essence of the problem is that your original articles are in English of high quality, but your replies are low quality posts in English of moderate quality. That's extremely suspicious.

Also, your shitposts get reported by me and deleted by the mods, yet you continue to post the exact same "yes oh my gawd you're so rite" replies to every single person who posts a reply here. If you wish to post such childish stuff, I'd suggest you start your own forum or a blog or whatever, instead of polluting this community which is doing everything every day over and over to keep spammers and shitposters like you out of here.

So quit whining about being upset and delete your posts from today voluntarily, instead of letting other people waste their time and energy reporting and deleting them, until eventually you get banned.

I will do this soon. Also, during the conversation I had with the director of the association, it was decided that my previous articles, which are not of good quality, would be removed and new, high-quality articles would be replaced.
I also have to say about responding to others that I do as you say and spend more on analytical answers.



Why would she even trust hiring a killer without really knowing who's the killer and how she can trust him that she'll get what she paid for. She should've done it herself because she'll just also end up in jail. But kidding aside, some people really think that they can run away with all their wrongdoings using bitcoin... People who think this way is just ruining the image of bitcoin, giving others a misconception about bitcoin that's why some people think bitcoin is something bad.

By doing this, not only will the face of Bitcoin not be tarnished, but it will also make people who have never heard of Bitcoin known to it.
This is what makes Bitcoin so popular.
At the same time, it should be borne in mind that the ultimate goals of this news are in the hands of the people and they must maintain their awareness.

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I was just watching about kinds of stuff like this on Youtube and she probably has been chatting with an agent. With the evil plan that she had, karma came to her quickly.

I hear that Bitcoin is use most in dark web for buying illegal things. Though I'm not 100% sure about that.  But in my opinion no one can trace Bitcoin transaction, this can be a reason why they use Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is not responsible for this. People illegal use and bad thinking responsible for this.
It is because it's untraceable and the girl was just traced through chat logs and on that log, there's the address indicated which led the investigators to an account on localbitcoins which had detected her.
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For this woman, making a contract to someone in the darkweb to hire a killer is already a sin. Look she was still hoping that it will go as plan, but look at how the scammers did to her, ask for more money. And then someone leaked the information to the authorities getting here arrested and for sure going to jail for her actions here, very stupid. As far as bitcoin, it's dark market, people only transact their using crypto what do you expect? But it doesn't mean that bitcoin is going to be used for this purposes only, it's just part of the equation.

This woman has been deceived and lost her property.
I also agree with you that a lot of crimes are being committed these days and a limited portion belongs to Bitcoin.
People are quick to point to this limited area and say bad bitcoin.
Yet they forget its goodness. Huh

because media is blowing up the situation. they always wanted to report any fraudulent activity surrounding bitcoin. but forget to highlight the importance of this creation.
 they are fast to report news like this, how btc is used in this kind of activity. and for those noncrypto users, they think that btc is really a fraud whenever they read this kind of news.
but the fact is, a lot of fraud has been happening when it comes to fiat money. youre right, bitcoin only share a small portion on this.
 a lot of ignorant people are stuck to this perspective, that btc is in the bad light because of this fraudulent/illegal activities or whatever they call it
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Yes, I agree about Bitcoin, which is only a payment option, like FIAT payments, which is different, only bitcoin transactions can be anonymous. But Bitcoin's reputation will not remain good in my opinion, because in this case murder is the main problem and then BTC is only an alternative payment. It is unfortunate if bitcoin is used as payment for criminal or illegal actions.
It is widely known in the dark web as a way of payment for any services they offer. If you haven't know it has been used for years as a way of payment for almost everything you want in the dark web. Bitcoin is not really anonymous since everything is being recorded in the blockchain that can be viewed in a public ledger. The woman probably didn't take enough time to do her own research about how the authorities could follow the transaction.
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For this woman, making a contract to someone in the darkweb to hire a killer is already a sin. Look she was still hoping that it will go as plan, but look at how the scammers did to her, ask for more money. And then someone leaked the information to the authorities getting here arrested and for sure going to jail for her actions here, very stupid. As far as bitcoin, it's dark market, people only transact their using crypto what do you expect? But it doesn't mean that bitcoin is going to be used for this purposes only, it's just part of the equation.

This woman has been deceived and lost her property.
I also agree with you that a lot of crimes are being committed these days and a limited portion belongs to Bitcoin.
People are quick to point to this limited area and say bad bitcoin.
Yet they forget its goodness. Huh
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It is difficult to believe these "stories". Can anyone be so dumb to actually hire a murderer for just $5,000? I still remember the case of Ross William Ulbricht. The FBI wanted to make sure that he remains behind bars for the rest of his life and it is being alleged that they created some fake web chats showing that he hired contract killers to take down his competitors. It is very easy to create fake web chats.

So you believe Ross didn't put a hit to those men?
The guy looks very harmless actually but later it was discovered that the wallet where he sent the fee for the hit was his old friend who also tried to scam him for this hits. There really isn't a way to know all the facts besides those FBI men.

One shouldn't trust a  hired hitman because ultimately these men are just going to extort you in the end. Lots of stories about this.



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Yes, I agree about Bitcoin, which is only a payment option, like FIAT payments, which is different, only bitcoin transactions can be anonymous. But Bitcoin's reputation will not remain good in my opinion, because in this case murder is the main problem and then BTC is only an alternative payment. It is unfortunate if bitcoin is used as payment for criminal or illegal actions.
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I hear that Bitcoin is use most in dark web for buying illegal things. Though I'm not 100% sure about that.  But in my opinion no one can trace Bitcoin transaction, this can be a reason why they use Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is not responsible for this. People illegal use and bad thinking responsible for this.
How it is possible to someone to trace the transaction of bitcoin? We know that bitcoin is a decentralized coin and user can use it on sweet well. But you got the last point that bitcoin is not responsible for such kind of work.
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