Topic: A woman has been arrested in the United States for hiring a killer with bitcoin - page 3. (Read 846 times)

This is a disappointing case. So many good things that can be done with Bitcoin and make them stand out anywhere in the world and people create hell by doing illicit acts like this. Fortunately, the case was not carried out, As the article says, people have a wrong concept about the anonymity of Bitcoin.

First, it is better to enclosure the lin source of this news. I know that you didn't copy paste and plagiarize the ar5ticle. However, it will help us and more trusted if enclsuring the source.
I have searched the news and probably it is here:
https://www.coindesk.com/nevada-woman-charged-in-bitcoin-murder-for-hire-as-a-mystery-hacker-again-turns-tipster

It is very This crime has been started in spring 2016 but it was failed.
First of all, I want to say that this incident was truly inhuman and outrageous. Whatever the cause, a wife is willing to spend a lot of money to kill a man who is none other than her ex-husband. Isn't this an outrageous thing but we can't turn on the woman because we don't know the exact trauma or problem that triggered this premeditated murder.

Next, regarding how to pay the killer using Bitcoin. I hope that the emphasis on Bitcoin shouldn't be too high. because here it is just like any other contract murder. Where they use money or other valuables as compensation for crimes they have committed.
Bitcoin is just a manner that those irresponsible people use. Right now if that happens, maybe not many people will think negatively about Bitcoin. because anything can be used as a guarantee for him. Someone might use BTC, money, gold, and more when they want to hire hitmen like this.

This is precisely what is very dangerous. However, such is the one on the dark Web and we, as before, still can't do much with the site.
If they make recruitment like that, of course, it is not only in one country. Maybe it could be an international crime. This must be immediately acted upon and eradicated.

I do not want to comment on the law and punishment that the woman should pay. But, I really want to make sure that we may never think that BTC is used for crimes only. This depends on the owners whether going to use it for crimes or not. As many criminals also use BTC for money laundry or even other crimes.

Nowadays people are losing their human nature, it can very easily decide to kill someone. For me kill flies already feel guilty,
moreover reading articles like the opening post, gives me the creeps to read articles like this. Actually this happened because
the person couldn't control his emotions, because anger can make us unable to think logically. But related to hiring a killer with
Bitcoin is not new in my opinion, there have been several similar instances too.

It got necroed by some twitter "news" handles and it took off, anyway, I saw this earlier today in one such profile. I mean I'm all for bitcoin chatter either way.

So what? would you label bitcoin as a bad tool?

I think this information will not give much to bitcoin and an overview from other to bitcoin. Using bitcoin is like you use money in you whole day now, you can't judge and give a bad assesment into bitcoin and tell them to another people now, they have known bitcoin well.

Well, I think this is one of the article that the OP came from the topic. ^{[ https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2020-09-26/nevada-woman-accused-of-bitcoin-murder-for-hire-plot ]}

This is not new, even fiat money has the same cases as this. Perhaps social media again trying to spread FUD news to have an effect on the price. Everyone have a choice in making crime and it is involved either crypto or fiat money are the same. But why if the crypto are involved they keep spreading on it. I dont like an article like this, perhaps I suspected that the whales doing this for the price manipulation.

It's because the supposedly crime happen years ago, that's why 12 bitcoins is $5k then.

Of course it is a scam and she feel for it, the bad thing is that she was caught will all the info. We also have to give kudos to the hackers who help the agent in this case. Here is the court documents: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1319781/download

I have read this thread a couple of times and I am sorry for being to practical on correctness of the words used for it is supposedly a news article so every single word matters because a misused word can lead up to confusion considering this is a news article. I know it was stated in the subject that a woman is arrested due to criminality of hiring a killer using Bitcoin but that just not ends in there. I am reading the entire article not just the title all alone and what I can say that to avoid plagiarism this thread of yours have undergone paraphrasing which leads to interchanging words resulting to errors.


Also, it is not enough just citing on where it came from for you still must have provided the news article so that we can see the overall article itself that includes the whole story about this case. Citing where it came from must always include URL that is linked to the article to support this thread. Overall, this is really an awful scenario on how people is becoming pathetic to hire killers and using Bitcoin as a tool to make transactions to come up on doing this.

I've heard a lot of things about hiring a killer in deep web thing where you could pay bitcoin to some illegal things or something like hiring a killer. Well, killing your ex-husband? seriously? Maybe he falls into a trap or someone offers this to him and the woman just takes the offer because she wants to kill her ex-husband. I'm sure that the authorities could tract a lot of these transactions because of a lot of their trusted sources. But 5000$ was a big amount of bitcoin  just invest it instead of using it in killing.

This is not the first time i am hearing a news about wife and ex wife hiring a killer, Dalia Mohammed case was a media sensation as all her communications were recorded and she hired an undercover cop to kill her husband and another news which hit the headlines recently was the wife of a  footballer Emre Belözoğlu put a hit on him after he filed for divorce and in this case the ex wife tried to hire a hitman in 2016 and it was revealed to the authorities by an convict.

A correction ex wife Kristy Lynn Felkins hired to kill her ex husband.

 

There are thousands of murder cases that have been ordered on the internet. In forums, marketplaces, etc. This is very common. Cases that have been documented and tried with thousands of evidence.

Of course, most of these offers are scam. People trying to deceive others. But this is everywhere. The point is that a murderer is not able to kill thousands of people on demand. usually someone who wants to offer these services kills no more than 5 people. In general, people ask for someone with some proximity. An ex-security guard, a known ex-police officer, etc. When this possibility does not exist, He will search on the internet.

What does not exist are specific murder marketplaces that are reliable. Obviously, successful isolated cases may have occurred. But most of these marketplaces are scams. The big problem to be solved is the question of the oracle. In a negotiation between two parties, if one decides to deceive the other, we need a third party to decide who is right.

There are thousands of projects on track to offer this oracle without human interference. A decentralized oracle. It is an opportunity, but also a great risk.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/kill-list-dark-web-hitmen

Are you talking about ordering a hitman or paying with cryptocurrency? 

Seems like an old article? 12 bitcoins which equated to $5000, at today's price, 12 bitcoins should go for around more than $100,000. Sides, even if we do say that the woman got it since she didn't hide her address, that was years ago when not much was really being paid attention to the security or privacy of addresses of most people. Plus, oddly enough, it's either the killer met up with the woman herself and transferred BTC directly, or through address, but in that case, the killers should also know who the woman is. If that was the case, kind of stupid from the side of the woman who hired the killer.

There is, but negotiations broke down. If what @TedMosby's link is actually the article op has said, then negotiations broke down after the killer tried to offer more expensive ways to kill someone. Seeing that OP and the link provided pertain to the same woman, it should be the same story OP has said.

She couldn't find a better way, hiring someone who she personally met is more stupid.

If I have to put my self in her shoe, I couldnt find a better way than seeking an online hitman, most likely on the deepweb so it can't blackmail me to ask for more than $5k. If she just desperately wanna kill the husband, she should just be the one to do it. Its however going to take a pro of the pro to get away wit hthe forensic investigations.

There is no killer...    It's a scam. People that kill don't work on the internet.


I'm pretty sure authorities have better things to do. Anything that is extreme that you see online is a scam. All that scary stuff is just made up for entertainment. They do make good storied. There is a tv series about the darkweb stories. Yes, its made up but its still fun.

It's really funny why there are people who think that hiring killers online is legit, though I'm not really sure but logically how are these people gets the job done especially when you're from the other side of the globe. And yes, if there is going to be a killer for hire online that could be just an entrapment operation for the authorities trying to capture some criminals online.

The story is really shady, I don't get to see the source, could have been a made up story. I'll buy into this story once a credible source shows up.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with this incident. Consider that she could have paid fiat to the killer too. The focus should not be on what is paid to the killer, the main point is women who did this wrong thing by hiring a killer. I don't think coin desk should emphasize on this story much as it is not related to crypto currencies.

he means you should add the source link.
https://www.coindesk.com/nevada-woman-charged-in-bitcoin-murder-for-hire-as-a-mystery-hacker-again-turns-tipster

she ordered a hitman(s) in 2016. no wonder she paid 12 bitcoins which worth $5,000 at the time.

Exactly! I was about to mention that the hire of the killer could be done using any other payment method. It just so happened that the lady used bitcoin in her transactions which, unfortunately, contributed to the stigma of bitcoin as a means of perpetrating a crime. Just because bitcoins have been linked to be a method of payment for illegal transactions does not make its entirety negative and illegal.


I mean, people can always hire or purchase contrabands using any payment method. It is just unfortunate that bitcoins have been put in a negative spotlight which contributes to its growing stigma among the people.

Obviously it is not a good think from a women. In this digital world, it is one kind of foolishness. Some government don't adopt for this kind of activities.