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Topic: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping - page 11. (Read 122571 times)

legendary
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The L3's on Prohashing with vardiff was working fine once I set h=3.  I am running on Nicehash with default settings and no problems there for me.  I didn't like the wild swings in hash on zpool so I didn't keep it there for very long.  I am sure with time we will get the settings figured out for the other pools to get the best performance.  Overall I am pleased with the performance. 

If you dont mind me asking, where did you purchase your L3 from? I thought it was reported these would come out in january from bitmain, but that doesnt seem to be the case. I am finishing up some changes to my mining area and have the funds and space for around 10 L3's, but would prefer to buy from bitmain directly.

Also, i know you said they were quiet, but what kind of quiet are we talking?

They were released in January and they sold out very quickly, then Bitmain removed the product listing from their site... I assume its because they won't have more for a while. From my research the next estimated shipping is sometime in early Feb so keep an eye out.

Oh really!  Can't believe I missed it, did they even make a thread about them on here?  I usually don't miss much if anything, can't believe I missed these being released.
hero member
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The L3's on Prohashing with vardiff was working fine once I set h=3.  I am running on Nicehash with default settings and no problems there for me.  I didn't like the wild swings in hash on zpool so I didn't keep it there for very long.  I am sure with time we will get the settings figured out for the other pools to get the best performance.  Overall I am pleased with the performance. 

If you dont mind me asking, where did you purchase your L3 from? I thought it was reported these would come out in january from bitmain, but that doesnt seem to be the case. I am finishing up some changes to my mining area and have the funds and space for around 10 L3's, but would prefer to buy from bitmain directly.

Also, i know you said they were quiet, but what kind of quiet are we talking?

They were released in January and they sold out very quickly, then Bitmain removed the product listing from their site... I assume its because they won't have more for a while. From my research the next estimated shipping is sometime in early Feb so keep an eye out.
legendary
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The L3's on Prohashing with vardiff was working fine once I set h=3.  I am running on Nicehash with default settings and no problems there for me.  I didn't like the wild swings in hash on zpool so I didn't keep it there for very long.  I am sure with time we will get the settings figured out for the other pools to get the best performance.  Overall I am pleased with the performance. 

If you dont mind me asking, where did you purchase your L3 from? I thought it was reported these would come out in january from bitmain, but that doesnt seem to be the case. I am finishing up some changes to my mining area and have the funds and space for around 10 L3's, but would prefer to buy from bitmain directly.

Also, i know you said they were quiet, but what kind of quiet are we talking?
hero member
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The L3's on Prohashing with vardiff was working fine once I set h=3.  I am running on Nicehash with default settings and no problems there for me.  I didn't like the wild swings in hash on zpool so I didn't keep it there for very long.  I am sure with time we will get the settings figured out for the other pools to get the best performance.  Overall I am pleased with the performance. 
sr. member
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The prices through resellers of the L3 are pretty high.  If you can wait to get one from Bitmain you will save some cash and not have any warranty questions about coverage etc.  I have to concur that the L3 is very nice.  So far no issues and it is very profitable right now.

I can't help but wonder if Inno is going to be able to fix the A4.  The early chip tests showed the A4 ASIC is capable of some great numbers. I don't know where this was lost in translation when packaging this up into multi chip boards but I can't help but wonder if they will get it figured out and have an updated version of the miner that delivers the performance that the A4 is capable of.  So I wouldn't count Inno out of the competition yet.  I would like to see them get these miners running right for everyone and open sourcing the software.

Maybe we will see that updated miner this year that delivers the performance that everyone was expecting from the A4.  I know I would be willing to test that miner for Inno if they do that. 

Does it work well on pool with vardiff or with low diff? One i rented on MRR worked teriibly on suprnova and at other pool on 8192 diff. (around 100-140Mhash)
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Well I can report just over 7 days straight without an issue but as soon as it saw 1 Get failure, it started the reboot dance again, then proceeded to reboot for hours until I caught it overnight.

So far this new issue seems to fix itself temporarily when I manually stop the miner, wait a bit and then restart it but no clue how long it will work.

It appears to be more stable when the difficulty is set to dynamic pool side from my experience.

Hopefully a new version of the software comes out that doesn't auto-reboot the Pi for every single Get Failure.
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Lets just say that they lost quite a bit of credibility they had brought to the table from the A2.
The A2 was the only reason I went for the A4 in the first place on a pre order. Wont be making that mistake again.

Agreed, I wouldn't be willing to risk money on an updated miner until I see it hashing like it is advertised to.  If they want to send an evaluation unit in the future for testing that would be fine, but I wouldn't pre-order anything at this point.  They will have to work hard to earn back that credibility.
legendary
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Lets just say that they lost quite a bit of credibility they had brought to the table from the A2.
The A2 was the only reason I went for the A4 in the first place on a pre order. Wont be making that mistake again.
hero member
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The prices through resellers of the L3 are pretty high.  If you can wait to get one from Bitmain you will save some cash and not have any warranty questions about coverage etc.  I have to concur that the L3 is very nice.  So far no issues and it is very profitable right now.

I can't help but wonder if Inno is going to be able to fix the A4.  The early chip tests showed the A4 ASIC is capable of some great numbers. I don't know where this was lost in translation when packaging this up into multi chip boards but I can't help but wonder if they will get it figured out and have an updated version of the miner that delivers the performance that the A4 is capable of.  So I wouldn't count Inno out of the competition yet.  I would like to see them get these miners running right for everyone and open sourcing the software.

Maybe we will see that updated miner this year that delivers the performance that everyone was expecting from the A4.  I know I would be willing to test that miner for Inno if they do that. 
legendary
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Ive been looking for the L3, but the only sellers seem to have significant jacked-up pricing compared to what the articles seem to suggest the price will be...
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Easy to say after the fact my man. No one knew the L3 was coming or that Inno would get it this wrong for early buyers.

OK - I'll leave it at don't ever (again) buy pre-orders.  Before the fact there was a big history of problems in this industry with this practice but now I'm just belaboring the obvious...
legendary
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Easy to say after the fact my man. No one knew the L3 was coming or that Inno would get it this wrong for early buyers.
member
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How do I reflash the firmware rather than the software on the sd card?

If you have a Batch 1 or 2 miner you need to put your name on the list with Inno to have a jig sent to you.  We currently have 1 jig being sent around in the US, but I understand a second jig is coming.  So you should reach out to Inno ASAP to get your name on the list.

I continue to be fascinated that hostages customers put up with this from Inno.  Imagine you bought a new washing machine only to find the wiring was completely crap!  The manufacturer's solution is send a whole new set of wiring harnesses and computer chips with instructions on how to replace them yourself.  I don't think so!

Every A4 owner is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome at this point.  I'm really glad to see the L3 is coming (I have two running now and they are GREAT) so people will stop throwing away their hard earned money & time on this wretched A4 technology and once again re-learn, NEVER BUY PRE-ORDERS.
hero member
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How do I reflash the firmware rather than the software on the sd card?

If you have a Batch 1 or 2 miner you need to put your name on the list with Inno to have a jig sent to you.  We currently have 1 jig being sent around in the US, but I understand a second jig is coming.  So you should reach out to Inno ASAP to get your name on the list.

Interesting, thank you for this info! Inno should make a sticky post or edit the front page to include information regarding this jig. I will reach out to them and try to get my name on the list.

You make a good point.  I will add the info to the original post for this thread with the contact info.  I don't know how many people read the original post anymore, but it might help a few people who are having A4 difficulties.
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How do I reflash the firmware rather than the software on the sd card?

If you have a Batch 1 or 2 miner you need to put your name on the list with Inno to have a jig sent to you.  We currently have 1 jig being sent around in the US, but I understand a second jig is coming.  So you should reach out to Inno ASAP to get your name on the list.

Interesting, thank you for this info! Inno should make a sticky post or edit the front page to include information regarding this jig. I will reach out to them and try to get my name on the list.
hero member
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How do I reflash the firmware rather than the software on the sd card?

If you have a Batch 1 or 2 miner you need to put your name on the list with Inno to have a jig sent to you.  We currently have 1 jig being sent around in the US, but I understand a second jig is coming.  So you should reach out to Inno ASAP to get your name on the list.
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How do I reflash the firmware rather than the software on the sd card?
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This software is so unstable for me. Almost nothing works. I can't get it to mine without rebooting constantly, the auto-start doesn't work, changing the voltage or the core speed renders the whole unit inoperable until I reflash the SD card. I'm lucky if I actually get the miner to start hashing successfully.... I really think it has everything to do with the software and not the miner as on the original firmware I was getting much closer to the reported hash rate (although still about 40 mh/s shy of 270). I am most likely going to flash that image back (V1).

Its rather unfortunate, really, because I have an A2 as well that works phenomenally (with a custom image though). In fact, the A2 has almost the exact same speed as my A4 right now (minus about 30 mh/s). Simply not what I purchased at all. Hopefully Inno does something to address these issues (as it seems that I am not the only one encountering them). I enjoy the mining experience because of the ebbs and flows, but this has been one ebb I can't figure out and its driving me bonkers Tongue.

EDIT:

I re-flashed the original firmware that came with it (unknown version number, as it doesn't show any on the webpage. Its the one where the voltage shows a "/" and you have to manually input to get it to start). I also switched pools to pro hash and am now getting the appropriate hash rate (270). I'm certain now that the firmware was the cause of the issue, as even on pro hash I would still get significantly lower hash rate on v2+.

It sounds like you have either a Batch 1 or Batch 2 miner which will run with either of the earlier software releases (the software is what is stored on the SD card).
At some point you need to reflash your miner's cards with the new firmware (stored in the MicroProcessor on the card) so you can use the latest 2.0.2 beta software which is incompatible with the Batch 1 and Batch 2 miners, and vice versa.

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This software is so unstable for me. Almost nothing works. I can't get it to mine without rebooting constantly, the auto-start doesn't work, changing the voltage or the core speed renders the whole unit inoperable until I reflash the SD card. I'm lucky if I actually get the miner to start hashing successfully.... I really think it has everything to do with the software and not the miner as on the original firmware I was getting much closer to the reported hash rate (although still about 40 mh/s shy of 270). I am most likely going to flash that image back (V1).

Its rather unfortunate, really, because I have an A2 as well that works phenomenally (with a custom image though). In fact, the A2 has almost the exact same speed as my A4 right now (minus about 30 mh/s). Simply not what I purchased at all. Hopefully Inno does something to address these issues (as it seems that I am not the only one encountering them). I enjoy the mining experience because of the ebbs and flows, but this has been one ebb I can't figure out and its driving me bonkers Tongue.

EDIT:

I re-flashed the original firmware that came with it (unknown version number, as it doesn't show any on the webpage. Its the one where the voltage shows a "/" and you have to manually input to get it to start). I also switched pools to pro hash and am now getting the appropriate hash rate (270). I'm certain now that the firmware was the cause of the issue, as even on pro hash I would still get significantly lower hash rate on v2+.

I have confirmed in some of my previous posts -- 2.0.2 makes the Pi go into a reboot loop every time it sees 1 Get Failure or any sort of network connection issue. -- I call it the "Reboot Dance" -- I do know they are working on updating/improving the software.

Interesting that you got the old software to work. I have 1.0.0T on my original SD Card.

I think I was getting a low hash rate on v1 before because I was only putting voltage at 800 since I didn't know what the proper number should be and I didn't want to burn it out. The new firmware has it at 820 so I put v1 at 820 and it seems to be running better.
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This software is so unstable for me. Almost nothing works. I can't get it to mine without rebooting constantly, the auto-start doesn't work, changing the voltage or the core speed renders the whole unit inoperable until I reflash the SD card. I'm lucky if I actually get the miner to start hashing successfully.... I really think it has everything to do with the software and not the miner as on the original firmware I was getting much closer to the reported hash rate (although still about 40 mh/s shy of 270). I am most likely going to flash that image back (V1).

Its rather unfortunate, really, because I have an A2 as well that works phenomenally (with a custom image though). In fact, the A2 has almost the exact same speed as my A4 right now (minus about 30 mh/s). Simply not what I purchased at all. Hopefully Inno does something to address these issues (as it seems that I am not the only one encountering them). I enjoy the mining experience because of the ebbs and flows, but this has been one ebb I can't figure out and its driving me bonkers Tongue.

EDIT:

I re-flashed the original firmware that came with it (unknown version number, as it doesn't show any on the webpage. Its the one where the voltage shows a "/" and you have to manually input to get it to start). I also switched pools to pro hash and am now getting the appropriate hash rate (270). I'm certain now that the firmware was the cause of the issue, as even on pro hash I would still get significantly lower hash rate on v2+.

I have confirmed in some of my previous posts -- 2.0.2 makes the Pi go into a reboot loop every time it sees 1 Get Failure or any sort of network connection issue. -- I call it the "Reboot Dance" -- I do know they are working on updating/improving the software.

Interesting that you got the old software to work. I have 1.0.0T on my original SD Card.
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