Topic: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping - page 21. (Read 122577 times)

I don't know on the Batch 3 miners.  I have to assume that no news is good news.

On the jig scheduling we are still open to ideas.  It has been mentioned that Prohashing would be willing to flash miners as a service for the community in exchange for a small fee to just cover their time.  We would only have to pay the shipping.  If everyone is open to that idea I can talk to Chris at Prohashing and we can begin to work out the details.  The jig still hasn't arrived yet at my location.

The concern is how fragile the jig is and the shipping it all over the place.  After looking at the pictures that were posted of one of the jigs I have to agree this thing looks to be very fragile.  So the idea of possibly having this done at one location has some merit.

On a side note I had a scare this morning with the A4's.  I woke up at 3am and went and checked on the miners.  The A4's were completely down!  So I power cycled the miners then I couldn't get 1 of the hashing boards in either of my 2 A4's to come up.  I power cycled them more times than I care to count and nothing was working.  Finally on one restart one of the miners picked up 4 boards, but one of them was limping pretty bad and only showing 1608 cores.  I restarted it a few more times and no improvement.  The other miner would not bring up the 4th board no matter what I tried.  So after a couple of hours of battling with it I sent an email to Inno about my problem and gave them some screen shots...

I SWEAR, I no more than hit the send button on that email and went back out and power cycled the miners and BOOM the 4 boards started hashing again on both miners! 

So the moral of this story is that the A4's are scared of Inno, and all you have to do is send an email to them and the A4's straighten right up!  LOL  I have no idea what the problem is, but I hope that the firmware update fixes this mess!  That was the worst I have seen it so far where the miners were down and the hashing boards refused to come up.  Hopefully it was a "one off" situation.

Any news on:
1) Are the Batch-3 miners still dropping boards and do the still require a power cycle to get back online?
2) Timing/scheduling for the Jig in the US?

didn't work me too for some time ago

I just sent email out to customers who bought directly from Innosilicon explaining the situation.  So you may see an email from me. 

I know we have several people here that bought miners through other channels, but unfortunately there is no way for me to get in touch with people that did not buy miners from Innosilicon.  So for those people I can only hope that they are forum members or stumble upon what we are doing here to resolve these issues with batch 1 and batch 2 miners.

I believe the current B1 is 0.0.3, and the Batch 3 is v2.0.2 I think.  I don't know that it is posted anywhere.

whats the latest version to be running on batch 1 & 3 guys? is there a page where they're announced?

Yea, I switched to the 2880W IBM PSU's and they work great. No issues there.

I have Lepa 1600 and i was running 4cubes of titan on it. So it was pulling like 1250W on those cubes, BUT - those psu's act strange sometime, they suddenly turn off - and You cant get them up untill You disconnect them from power and unit for couple mins, some fragile protection i guess. Same thing happens to my friend with same Lepa psu. Happened to me once or twice even with GPU's and it wasnt pulling that much. Tho never had such issues with Platimax 1500W. Best to use serwer psu's imo. Im running all my Titans and GPU's on 2kW IBM/Delta's right now - cheaper and better

Got mine yesterday, has been running with no problems

So it looks like inno finally has smartened up.  At this point are the new miners being bought working good.  I would read through the thread but just need a quick yeah new ones are good, or no might want to wait until all the dust settles.  Thanks guys and glad a fixing is coming.

Hmm, I think it might be the PSU.  I just got it as a part of a 6 gpu rig that I purchased that I can't seem to get working properly. Luckily, newegg dropped off the one I bought for this wayyyy early this morning, and I just got it plugged in and everything booted up and is running with no problems.

I am easy... If we want to take this to the other thread that would be fine. 

New Reflash thread has activity and additional comments regarding this subject > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a4-drop-card-issues-jig-reflash-thread-1718024

I cross posted Lightfoots remarks above on the new thread.

If everyone would prefer to continue here, I can lock the other thread but I think the fixing A4 conversation specific thread might be easier than funneling through all these pages of pre-order turned fixing

That would be a very good idea. As someone who has repaired a bunch of reworks all at once awhile back time is critical. It takes time to pull the unit out, remove the screws, take off the fans, not lose the screws, pull the boards, and place on the preheater (or jig in this case). Then putting it together. The time spent doing that is miniscule to the user, but when you multiply it by 500 you're talking serious time.

People should pull out their blades, and send just those in. Make sure Inno is ok with this, if someone botches the removal then the boards should be replaced under warranty or something if Inno approves. (It's an exception case, document those).

It sounds like Inno wants to just do one jig, and to be honest the only skill I could offer with the jig is my kinda-good reputation :-). Anyone should be able to do the reprogramming, LS will do a great job on it I'm sure. If it required reflow/rework/fun skills then I'd put my hat in but for now it seems to be under control.

New Thread > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a4-drop-card-issues-jig-reflash-thread-1718024

How about we open a new thread for the jig/flashing activities.
Also, if we keep the jig at one location (which makes more sense than shipping it around and risking damage to the jig), I would suggest somewhere in the central US to minimize the "average" shipping costs for the A4's.
If we do decide to ship the jig, I would suggest 1 stop on the east coast and one stop on the west coast.
Im perfectly happy to ship my A4's to someone to flash for me, Although the process seems simple enough.
Also, what about pulling the blades out of the A4's and shipping those in groups, scheduling with the person who has the jig. That would help to reduce shipping slightly. I think it will be like $20-$30 to ship an individual cube somewhere in the US.
Im in Arizona, which is further west than central. Perhaps someone in Texas would want to do the flashing?
Also, if we have someone doing all the flashing, what would be the costs for that in addition to the shipping?
These are all questions we need to address, hence I suggested the separate thread.

Inno needs to include an empty case, a PI, and a couple of fans with this Jig.

If Inno can do this, we have the option of packing and ship our A4 Cards only instead of the entire miner to the person flashing/testing. Save money on round trip shipping costs.

Ok, I received an update from Inno last night.  There is good, there is BAD, and there is UGLY to this whole mess.  I understand why there hasn't been any word from them now.  They are also trying to figure out how to do this, and the cost to make just 1 jig is CRAZY expensive.  So this is a HUGE mess.

So here are the basics in a nutshell.  Inno is going to send 1 jig to the US.  The cost to make one of the jigs is just insane so we will only get ONE jig to get this job done.  I offered to take the lead in working with US customers to try and get everyone some sort of arrangement to get your miners flashed.  I just don't know how this is going to get done otherwise.  There is no simple solution and this is going to take time and going to likely be messy.  So I ask for your patience up front as I know this isn't going to be easy.

So now we have to work out the details on how to best get everyone who needs the flash done.  I know some customers will be more technically inclined than others and will be willing to flash their own rigs.  For those customers I think the best solution will be to send the jig out to those customers.  Others who are not so comfortable doing this we will have to coordinate shipping rigs and having myself or another trusted member who has the jig flash the miners for you.  

For those who want to flash their own rigs, what we will have to do is setup a lottery where each member picks a number we put it in a hat and draw out the number.  That person will have the opportunity to get the jig first to do the flash.  Then we will do the lottery again and have the jig sent to the next person.  We will work through the list of customers until everyone has an opportunity to flash rigs who is willing and able to do so.

Now the bad part here is that due to the cost of the jig we have to ensure that the jig is passed along and not kept by a member when we still have members who need to be flashed.  So my suggestion here is that we setup an escrow.  In order to get the jig sent out to you once your number is drawn in the lottery we will need to collect a deposit that is held by an escrow.   The deposit will be returned to you as soon as the jig has been passed along to the next person who was picked in the lottery and has paid the deposit to have the jig sent.  This way we ensure that the jig gets passed around and ultimately returned in case we should have to go through this exercise again.  

There will need to be a time limit that any one member can keep the jig so that this process is not delayed for those waiting.  I would say 7 days with the jig should be ample time to make some time to open up the A4's and to do the flash, and then to get the jig sent off to the next person waiting.

Since there is only 1 jig this is going to take time, and a lot of patience on everyone's part.  It sounds like if we use DHL and keep the receipts and provide them to Inno that they may compensate you for the shipping costs for this.  I need to confirm this with them so don't hold me to that.  I will get the details and pass them along.
 
So I will open this up to the community here to discuss the plan and work out the details.  I want this to be as fair as possible for everyone and I will try to help anyone who is not comfortable flashing their rigs.  You will have to make your need known so we can try to figure out how to get your rigs fixed.  

I will be reaching out to other customers who are not members here on BCT and will give them the same information and suggest they join this discussion here on BCT to simplify communications for this juggling act with the 1 jig.  

Ok, that is the scoop.  Please feel free to offer suggestions and feedback so we can try to make this process work as smoothly as we can for everyone.  This is a community effort at this point and this is all volunteer work.  We have quite a few miners to get flashed so this is going to take a while. So please be gentle with me and we will work through this! LOL

I will let you know as soon as the jig arrives here and any additional details as I get them.  

Add 3 for me.