Topic: About rule 32 - When will it be serious violation? (Read 399 times)

when a post got deleted, a member will receive an email and the reason why his post got deleted. if the member is human, he will obey and not do it again, if not, possible he wasn't human.

It seems that you are right, because yesterday I reported a few posts in that board and they are still unhandled, while all the others have been positively resolved. I don't have too much experience with reports in Gambling, but I don't want to believe that this board is left to spammers, because every spam, especially signature spam, should be treated equally.

But, from the OP's screenshot on deleted posts, it seemed like reported about "burst posting".

That's true, but so far I've given up on gambling board regarding reports. Several times I have said, many of my reports are not handled on the gambling board even if I am absolutely sure about my accuracy. That's the reason why I don't report posts there even if many people admit that they are spam.

when a post got deleted, a member will receive an email and the reason why his post got deleted. if the member is human, he will obey and not do it again, if not, possible he wasn't human. So, because these rules are made for humans, there's nothing we and mod can't do.

So when will violations like this become so serious?

Mate, just go to marketplace I do this constantly every day - gets very tedious !!
The posts get deleted, but then the process repeats itself !!
Post - report- delete- post - report - delete …..ad infinitum !!!

I've been utilizing a user script by TryNinja recently. I had a half baked version that I made prior to it, but their version is fully fledged, and pretty much covers all basis'. So, I've started to log certain problem users, for further review down the line if there's other reports made against them. Again, this doesn't really eliminate the issue of multiple moderators handling the reports, but it does eliminate the second issue of forgetting.

So when will violations like this become so serious?

So when will violations like this become so serious?

Mate, just go to marketplace I do this constantly every day - gets very tedious !!
The posts get deleted, but then the process repeats itself !!
Post - report- delete- post - report - delete …..ad infinitum !!!

As you say , if members continue to do this over weeks/months/years … is banning an option ? Or should we just let these members carry on !
I’m not sure what the solution is , but as I say it sure is tedious

Unfortunately, it probably depends on who handles them at the time. If you get the same moderator handling it every single time, they'll probably ping the username in their mind, and be able to act accordingly in the future. However, if you've got multiple moderators handling the reports then things can become a little inconsistent as as moderators we can only act upon what we see, and can verify.

_BlackStar, I looked at the post history of that member and he is a classic shitposter, so I suggest you waste less time on reporting multiple posts in a row, and focus more on signature spam reports.

Since he keeps doing it even after his posts got deleted, have you ever tried to warn him/explain him that what he is doing is wrong and might end up getting temporary ban because of that?

Some people are so ignorant about the rules and won't even know that they are doing something wrong until you send them pm or warn them directly in the thread. I did that couple of times (not specifically about violating rule nr 32) and in majorify of cases it works so who knows, maybe it would work in this case as well.

Right now I don't think violating this rule can get your account banned.

Usually, people do it unknowingly and mods themselves merge those posts.

Since he keeps doing it even after his posts got deleted, have you ever tried to warn him/explain him that what he is doing is wrong and might end up getting temporary ban because of that? Some people are so ignorant about the rules and won't even know that they are doing something wrong until you send them pm or warn them directly in the thread. I did that couple of times (not specifically about violating rule nr 32) and in majorify of cases it works so who knows, maybe it would work in this case as well.

The above user violates rule number 32 quite often. Even I have reported it few post but to this day he still repeats it. I've also reported that user's profile to  moderator for review, but as a registered user in 2013 then I don't think it makes sense to be warned too often.

What surprises me is that he continues to do so almost daily for spam posts or burst posts on gambling board. So when will violations like this become so serious?

Why not make a spreadsheet and enter offenders in the sheet? It can be alphabetized and all mods can edit. This way users can be punished after x amount of offenses. Eventually permabanned for repeat offenses.

Unfortunately, it probably depends on who handles them at the time. If you get the same moderator handling it every single time, they'll probably ping the username in their mind, and be able to act accordingly in the future. However, if you've got multiple moderators handling the reports then things can become a little inconsistent as as moderators we can only act upon what we see, and can verify. Therefore, if one global handled 25%, another global with 25%, and a dedicated moderator 50%, a global isn't going to think too much of it. I know this seems to be in the Gambling section, and therefore the dedicated moderators are global, but there's three of them, so it could equally apply. The above is just an example. In other sections where there's multiple non global dedicated moderators things can start to get really murky depending on who handles it at the time.

Plus, there's the flip side where moderators handle a lot of reports, and pretty much identical reports when it comes to bumping. So, its very easily to forget when you could potentially be handling hundreds of reports every day. Obviously, with the recent decline in reports it's probably not as drastic figures, but you get my point.

I've been utilizing a user script by TryNinja recently. I had a half baked version that I made prior to it, but their version is fully fledged, and pretty much covers all basis'. So, I've started to log certain problem users, for further review down the line if there's other reports made against them. Again, this doesn't really eliminate the issue of multiple moderators handling the reports, but it does eliminate the second issue of forgetting.

Technically, moderators can somewhat verify if another moderator has taken action on the user previously, but I'm not sure if other moderators do this routinely. Especially when it's longer than the data available shows.

That would be my guess of what's happening here. It's not the fact that this wouldn't be taken further, and by taken further I don't mean bans, but could potentially be warnings via personal messages before bans, it's the fact that there's missing parts in the process. It'd be nice if we had a reporting system that highlighted how many times a user had been reported in the past x amount of days, and potentially link to a archived version, but that means storing deleted posts on the live database longer than we probably do right now.

Some personal reporting facts -
Member - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/evanluke-3502889
Reported 7 x in 14 days
Member - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dustmedia007-3504006
Reported 10x in 14 days
Member - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/scotland-3120410
Reported 12 x in 14 days

Now in the big picture it’s all irrelevant, but …. ? Surely these members would warrant an warning ?