Topic: Abusing behaviours by nutildah and JollyGood - page 2. (Read 794 times)

Are you sure about the availability of "new" change addy feature in all types of wallets by 2013?

Even in 2024, in most of the wallets, this feature is not getting enabled by default.

There is no such common behaviour; when "new change addy" option was not opted, then either one of the input will appear in output as well.

Only in rare cases, exchanges/casinos will able to find exact inputs for a required output+fees for a transaction. In most cases, a change addy is needed and when "new change addy" option was not enabled then one addy will appear in both input and output.

I thought we had seen the last of you using TheGreatPython account.

After all the effort you put in to get your original neutral tag removed only to have ended up with one from me, followed by one from suchmoon and the negative one from me too. What will you do next? I suspect you will focus on your undiscovered accounts and try to build them up because the tags on the TheGreatPython account will not be removed.

As for the addy excuse, that was probably the best you could do under the circumstances but you already knew it would not be taken seriously.

I swear to Satoshi the louder and more aggressive people are when making threads like this, the more scrutiny they bring on themselves--and almost inevitably, the members with shovels will dig up something nasty in the thread creator's past.  When nutildah dropped those address connections, I almost pissed my shorts.  That was a fantastic slap in the face to OP, so props to nutildah and his shovel.


*laughing with perverse glee*

Exchange, casino or other custodial service usually would consolidate Bitcoin from customer deposit address. In addition, they would include more address/UTXO to save some money on TX fee. But on TXID cf576aef0213fe1d54eb31d0810eae4d509a772fa4924aa0590f4c570aca8018, there's only 3 input and 2 output, where address 1PNQDmVYFhofPSBZKonz8RKUhxSFUFrQnN used on both input and output which deviate from the common behavior.

If he looks like a scammer, cheater and ban evader, creates stupid threads on this section like a scammer, cheater and ban evader, and when caught red handed replies like a scammer, cheater and ban evader, then I call him a scammer, cheater and ban evader.

A custodial wallet doesn't quite explain the evidence provided by nutildah. If it truly were a custodial wallet where you don't control the private keys (like those from centralized exchanges or gambling platforms), you wouldn't be able to initiate individual transactions from those addresses, as shown in the example provided by nutildah:


The transaction in question has three shared inputs and two outputs, one of which returns funds back to your wallet (change address). This suggests control over the private keys.

Now, if you're talking about a different kind of "custodial" wallet, like the one on blockchain.com where you do control the keys, then it wouldn't make sense to only have some keys and not all of them, right?

Yeah, because that was a custodial addy (from an exchange or casino, could not recall).

First of all, I don't know how many accounts actually bought/sold with all the things you mentioned. I don't remember seeing such threads. Probably these thing happened a long time ago which I don't know. But I came to know that account selling is not prohibited and people used to buy sell account back in the old days. Even it was normal to collateral BitcoinTalk account to take loans.

The 2nd thing is, if that is the case, why do we even ask for a signed message from an old address knowing the current account owner could provide a signed message from an old address? It becomes a standard to ask for a signed message from an address and this is the reason people stake their Bitcoin address. This is why I thought It would be okay if he can sign a message.

This just keeps getting better and better! This is why I love threads like this in the Reputation section. Hahahaha!

Great job @nutildah. I will review the evidence you have provided, and I think this will justify adding a bit more red to the OP account.

These must be bought accounts; its hard to imagine that they are all still controlled by one person. But what to do with these ones:


They are technically ban evading & I can prove it, although it requires connecting alts that share addresses. On the other hand, its been 9 years & they haven't scammed anybody since purchasing the accounts (pretty sure that is what happened).


What's funny is I was going to let the whole thing be. I certainly didn't coordinate anything with JollyGood and was ready to forget about it.

Ok, the whole thing makes more sense now, OP tried to discredit you preemptively with this thread, knowing that the walls are closing in.

Why do you think that account belongs to him personally if he signed the message from some old address? As far as I remember from some posts of those who sold BTT accounts, they included the full package - which means the original e-mail, and private keys for all publicly published addresses.

The only thing left as a possible proof that it is not the original owner is the comparison of IP addresses that can only be seen by the admin - and it only makes sense if the old and new owner did not use VPN or Tor.

It seems we will not see the OP again.

He was online and active a couple of hours after the detailed and informative post by nutildah but has opted to not post a reply. It is probably safe to assume he will be focusing on his other accounts that have not been discovered yet as he attempts to recover from what just happened to his TheGreatPython account.

Had he not brought all that attention to himself, he might have gone unnoticed again for several years but now he has lost any practical use of the account he was trying to get in to a campaign (and each of the associated accounts will be tagged).

Good. Another jerk who comes here to protest about being treated unfairly and leaves with a much worse reputation. I think this is going to be a contrarian indicator when someone protests we better prepare the red tags.

In this case I will wait to see what he says since this is what Nutildah, who has done the work, is going to before leaving a nice red tag in his profile.

WTF was that?
I was actually convinced once he signed a message from an old address. So, even if he is the original owner of this account, he is ban evader, scammer and cheater? It's all based on your comment because I haven't checked the cases for each user. You have mentioned dozens of accounts and addresses. Now I am curious if OP would comeback saying yes, I bought this account and the wallet and I am not associated with those accounts. In both cases, his account will be painted red. But, I am curious what will be his response.

I was saying this.

This is another topic in which the OP will seem to bury himself much deeper than he imagined - because even if only 10% of what was written in the previous post were true, then it only reveals the extent to which some are prepared to go to achieve some of their goals. I'm also interested in what the OP has to say about all this...

Well this is interesting. You share a wallet with loan scammer lemipawa.





Let's take a look at what other accounts use this wallet:

1HJAVemb5v8WvBRKVqpJrtujPLaGd3UfC8 - Beymond (inactive)
16zp7rX9xPKNGW59scY6ZrB2Wz7mehmrB2 - wayneyoyo (-3 trust)
151V2aLR9QCes65LC4RNCMXgkGhVujm7XD - Beymond/Winalunt (inactive)
1DdffAP4WJoZbrdezXq9ptHeHhgpQ2hvBB - sosulon (banned)
16Rk4mqYKDRPvPjnvdbEbJgBU3zKtWLFZ1 - Beymond/Sniar (banned)
1CtJGHpc1UpN9qTaD6ZeMSRhNM6CAxkTPA - Sniar/fr0sties (inactive)
1PkhUt1XY7LoPj3nTyTFpF1eae7uiDqn4u - chaolang (banned)/Inkvor (inactive)
14koWo7eACQAw1XV71EK3uVFdtuieJfY9M - sosulon/Kiweikoo (banned)
1CncdEpheAjaN7Ta9KDrfhPoNKDB8rHjQ7 - sosulon
1Pbx8ZwXCuGYc91m3KzE3ZaFv9cp3F6Dae - Daijess (banned)
12oe3ifQXLEvYndNQ9u3wJ1b85LRnToZx9 - Alarmoz (inactive)
1FKSepDE9nLoWKWm52R5EJEmQVuyL7UWAb - Quasis (inactive)/Reenth (inactive)
18AX93bL7gtgadzKgjPRfpkXQFMR12fFCe - chaolang/nikona (inactive)/chaosPT (banned)
1GTVdyau7QmvAgZacDn6gXbYLk9xkVvfGX - davinchi (-1 trust, alt accounts connected)
17iPvTFx3HYPS8Mp8KWQaMXWB55yTTB5W2 - lemipawa/xinzark (banned)
19WtTNeKKbjKu6NQu2YSpSxwDT6ooaU18Z - Gladdy (inactive)/darlings (-1 trust)
1CPYBnqkfpqTdzQbQphEcAECNKCVbrQyQE - Sniar/wayneyoyo
1FtVMS4KzeJWyrdoEFsjo7ogw8bRsHmHFh - arallmuus (DT2)
1GmZVjPypWyREsi6HfVoAvf2WUdmUN6mVh - Inkvor/Alarmoz (inactive)
1H9jgsUdRtQiMjih5jWgFazye1xRHBbCGk - arallmuus
1PcgQXeVXN3kSNDYhLWgXMPg1t3bxWSuKo - MCdelux (inactive)/ZendiMOREN (inactive)
115fPdcnjE9hNo5Hwun7QLr3eWpDF93RKx - lemipawa/Daijess
1ANY4AY94MyYL7z45tVyqAMmphg61zsx4i - Sniar/jeep.jeep (banned)
13sBJfsUUBsrdsfqa5BtMSfVE5Tm4ALoFw - eMoxes (inactive)
1CJioEjSNrstkqejzLEjZYbQZeWTnWz2Bp - lemipawa/ajaxmoor (+2 trust, inactive)
12Y9A5TtxiuZn9MaVGgf8ukYJu2RPHznxv - Reenth/Nombuchril (inactive)
1J8EfHyMpm3PfmvchSphDugbcnrwnD6FST - ladyfox (banned)/Dohat (inactive)
1Bcvk2TfmveW1VWxLS1eCE3yF61oTjAeuo - lemipawa/adicted (inactive)
1MyMrP98tC4v8NTYwxj4RYWUUpX5bpSE2L - Chrismon (inactive)/roreick (inactive)
1A2WYMNb6JbGqJk1oCEGpbG8iAKEPEnqKB - teddybear (active)
1HXZ6vCx5G9hPdfm9ULrr62hzBwFnEXaxz - Gladdy (inactive)
1Hewedt4WCXkHHB77mJEXHV1jwWeAXoWCZ - vennali (-5 trust, inactive)/Munouhapi (inactive)
1BzD6g9mKkHtT16XA4AFELwfhQ7ujhC3mT - DevilMayCry (inactive)/phibay (+1 trust, inactive)
17X2dNhr61pnRus3GwmiHxqA7DtKEg2U58 - wuvdoll (banned)
1AtEHKngL7Bkkx5caw56C4wmx8sdny5XCH - wayneyoyo/vennali/teddybear
13ECgup8zi58cWNSKoMHwUuP7vFQHAQ4rm - Sniar/LucasJunior (banned)/havecoch (neutral tag for bought account, inactive)/Vesther (inactive)
1xQcedxKzZ5prx3Y5HDbjAVpPtyVaHoeV - Opekill (inactive)/DoubleTrouble (inactive)
1bTTMPfxYZP18r4Na9WoBT4HgqcgEhAM5 - kurapica (inactive)
169bLUGkRzFKm2iZQuBgqp9Ue3McUxUmkN - DoubleTrouble/deuce22 (inactive -1 trust for account trading)/PantFire (inactive)
1LihEhPr2uinagaTsDhSGc75W1mvWuBsqH - vennali
1LAzbbfC3WviDgUXaVVA2HU6MEKhwKUgWy - crazyrapid (inactive)
18NXQto1ZDYU3aXgWyzkjWhAdpAfpUYtka - Ponymah (inactive)
1FKUaEo3XLPJ1zHRRfwudVrxQ3yvtowwYh - lolipop (inactive)
1PGezYkcBBRj9PTHt1KvzdJdFaTyiDbA1b - Lixer (active)
14S74rSNir3FgdpZ48ksK4tkKTKx33FioL - PantFire/millionbaby (inactive)
1EkWDe8epjXAQRrFXzCn5JgDAWRYX6AXYU - TheGreatPython (active)
1BwPWkJ5iePeY68TLNEoCgRh4cFrcrcZVt - memoryDept (banned)
1DQjoZfxp7YTdDeQEDKuhUwhtBU82n9GHp - Noisskal (inactive)
15KFMptRWbaPtZZXi6At9YpeK6tw1Zw4Dn - Umworpol (banned)
1DnX4ApQbGJBgA5WU8UvpR8WZwR6kDhYYZ - arallmuus/ZendiMOREN/Nombuchril
1EqVjb8C9P1adc5X312EKfRKoFRzP3Lwn9 - bosskilla (inactive)
1CuwC8nsrvSKddSq3QDTk2oQAoyXtZTRv4 - Laosai (-1 for being alt of scammer, inactive)
1PNQDmVYFhofPSBZKonz8RKUhxSFUFrQnN - TheGreatPython

Because you are the original account owner, as you so fastidiously claim, that means you're a campaign/contest cheater, loan scammer, hacked account seller, thief and ban evader.

Before red tagging you I'm really curious to see what kind of defense you'll put up against this.

If your second sentence is making such an assumption, there is no reason to continue reading.  If you have facts, we can review them.   Nutty and Jolly have done nothing but good for this community. 

I don't know the whole story to give you opinion about you and whatever you have done but lovesmayfamilis proved his worth in the forum. Everyone have good and bad in the past, intentionally or unintentionally we make mistakes, it's the nature of human.

An account without making mistakes is cleverly crafted and well planned account to build reputation for whatever reasons it have but an account owned by an average person with ups and downs, mistake and corrections is surely an account that is behind a real person. lovesmayfamilis is one of these member who has real character.

Try to be real, you will not need to convince anyone.

How do you expect him to answer you there when you locked your thread right after?  Smart move indeed.