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havecoch2

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Quote from: gogxmagog on April 17, 2015, 05:29:36 AM

how much do these guys pay for an account? Its something like 0.01 BTC for a full member isnt it? It would take months to earn that back won a sig campaign, and ...yeah... bans...

   It's ridiculous to me. Sig campaigns don't bother me (obviously) and neither does buying accounts, but I cant see why anyone would spend money to make so little in return, and probably just get banned on the way.

   sig campaigns should just be gravy for the bitcointalk junkies like me who are on here a lot and might as well get a little reward, but its so little TBH that it is certainly no income I am relying on.

   Shouldnt this simple logic discourage the whole practice of buying accounts and sig-farming? Am I missing something, or is it like faucets? some people cannot not believe they will make bank wasting all their time collecting pennies?

That is not related with my case . I still haven't got access to my account.

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how much do these guys pay for an account? Its something like 0.01 BTC for a full member isnt it? It would take months to earn that back won a sig campaign, and ...yeah... bans...

   It's ridiculous to me. Sig campaigns don't bother me (obviously) and neither does buying accounts, but I cant see why anyone would spend money to make so little in return, and probably just get banned on the way.

   sig campaigns should just be gravy for the bitcointalk junkies like me who are on here a lot and might as well get a little reward, but its so little TBH that it is certainly no income I am relying on.

   Shouldnt this simple logic discourage the whole practice of buying accounts and sig-farming? Am I missing something, or is it like faucets? some people cannot not believe they will make bank wasting all their time collecting pennies?

havecoch2

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Bump

havecoch2

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Quote from: hilariousandco on April 10, 2015, 10:58:11 AM

They're usually busy with other stuff so details regarding bannings are of least importance but maybe BadBear will offer some input in here shortly. Best you can do is keep bumping the thread every once in a while.

Alright , thanks.

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They're usually busy with other stuff so details regarding bannings are of least importance but maybe BadBear will offer some input in here shortly. Best you can do is keep bumping the thread every once in a while.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on April 02, 2015, 12:02:30 PM

The only staff that can help you get your account back are the admins. And the previous owner could by lying or it may have changed hands several times.

I did contact them but still haven't heard back. Bumping this.

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The only staff that can help you get your account back are the admins. And the previous owner could by lying or it may have changed hands several times.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on April 01, 2015, 05:27:10 PM

Quote from: maku on April 01, 2015, 05:12:17 PM

Quote from: BadBear on March 19, 2015, 07:39:25 AM

Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

What is this rule? Could someone explain it to me. I never heard about something like that. Are you trying to tell me that posts of older long-inactive accounts are being deleted?

No. Either a mod or the previous owner likely would have deleted them for whatever reason.

I see you are staff. Can you comment on how to get it back ? The owner(previous) confirmed that it has never been banned before.

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Quote from: maku on April 01, 2015, 05:12:17 PM

Quote from: BadBear on March 19, 2015, 07:39:25 AM

Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

What is this rule? Could someone explain it to me. I never heard about something like that. Are you trying to tell me that posts of older long-inactive accounts are being deleted?

No I deleted posts, as the signature hadn't applied properly, and even now shows invalid signature.

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Quote from: maku on April 01, 2015, 05:12:17 PM

Quote from: BadBear on March 19, 2015, 07:39:25 AM

Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

What is this rule? Could someone explain it to me. I never heard about something like that. Are you trying to tell me that posts of older long-inactive accounts are being deleted?

No. Either a mod or the previous owner likely would have deleted them for whatever reason.

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Quote from: BadBear on March 19, 2015, 07:39:25 AM

Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

What is this rule? Could someone explain it to me. I never heard about something like that. Are you trying to tell me that posts of older long-inactive accounts are being deleted?

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Quote from: havecoch2 on April 01, 2015, 12:47:07 PM

It has been 2 weeks since it was banned. I sent email and message to admins but haven't got any reply yet. Can someone tell me why the ban is permanent ?

I read that account with signatures bans will be able to use their accounts without signature. Can that be done ?

Yeah, your account was permanently banned as there is no message like "14 days ban or 60 days ban" as you have mentioned in the first post. the person who has sold you this account must have been banned twice earlier and unfortunately you were banned once and it was the third time for the account. You can appeal again by contacting the admin after 2 weeks and giving proof that you bought this account.

The rules say:

Q: Why was my account banned?
A: You probably have broken one of the rules. Try emailing a message to the specified appeal email shown in your ban message.

Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

@bold: That's not yet a part of the rule stated in the above thread.

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It has been 2 weeks since it was banned. I sent email and message to admins but haven't got any reply yet. Can someone tell me why the ban is permanent ?

I read that account with signatures bans will be able to use their accounts without signature. Can that be done ?

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Quote from: BadBear on March 19, 2015, 07:39:25 AM

Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

As I guessed. This is another good reason you shouldn't buy accounts.

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Quote from: havecoch2 on March 17, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

but I have been not spamming the forum

You bought the account? Are you aware of the deleted posts?

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Quote from: havecoch2 on March 19, 2015, 06:04:54 AM

Quote from: peligro on March 19, 2015, 03:54:57 AM

If the seller's other account got banned so will be yours. You took that risk when you bought it.

I checked, his account hasn't been banned.

Not only his account, but any of his accounts which he is selling, or he has sold and was banned. All connected accounts will face the ban.

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Quote from: havecoch2 on March 19, 2015, 06:04:54 AM

Ok, if that is it, which it isn't. Then the admin is supposed to let me know about it.
I have sent messages to the admins but haven't got a reply yet.

And its easy to say a post is spam, if you consider it after being banned. But they aren't. And it was permanently banned which makes it seem the spamming wasn't the reason.

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Quote from: SaltySpitoon on March 17, 2015, 02:34:24 AM

If the ban appeal is denied, just try appealing again in 30 days. While permanent bans are permanent, sometimes Admins will reconsider if you haven't caused any issue and wait 30 days, sometimes longer.

so a permanent banned account still have chance to be unbanned if they wait 30 days then post appeal here?

There is a chance however it is not a guarantee that your appeal will be granted. A ban that has a specific timeframe will automatically expire, assuming that you do not later evade your ban. A perm ban however will not automatically expire.

If you try to evade your ban by posting outside of meta then you will likely quickly get your other accounts banned which will result in you waisting your money from either buying accounts that get banned or your "proxy tax" aka what you pay for registering an account with units of evil going to waste.

Quote from: redsn0w on March 19, 2015, 06:21:06 AM

Maybe the reason is another one, and not only the sig ad that you are wearing. I think the signature campaign "will be" banned in the next few month (because it is impossible to stop the spammer and who make insubstantial posts ).

Chances are high but it would be more appropriate to enforce *signature campaign rules*.

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Quote from: havecoch2 on March 19, 2015, 06:04:54 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 19, 2015, 05:56:32 AM

I don't know if you are actually participating in a discussion or trying to increase post count and thus, payment. This is same with admins. They can't know either. So you should put more effort in posting. Honestly, your posts looks spammy to me.

Ok, if that is it, which it isn't. Then the admin is supposed to let me know about it.
I have sent messages to the admins but haven't got a reply yet.

And its easy to say a post is spam, if you consider it after being banned. But they aren't. And it was permanently banned which makes it seem the spamming wasn't the reason.

Quote from: peligro on March 19, 2015, 03:54:57 AM

If the seller's other account got banned so will be yours. You took that risk when you bought it.

I checked, his account hasn't been banned.

Maybe the reason is another one, and not only the sig ad that you are wearing. I think the signature campaign "will be" banned in the next few month (because it is impossible to stop the spammer and who make insubstantial posts ).

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 19, 2015, 05:56:32 AM

I don't know if you are actually participating in a discussion or trying to increase post count and thus, payment. This is same with admins. They can't know either. So you should put more effort in posting. Honestly, your posts looks spammy to me.

Ok, if that is it, which it isn't. Then the admin is supposed to let me know about it.
I have sent messages to the admins but haven't got a reply yet.

And its easy to say a post is spam, if you consider it after being banned. But they aren't. And it was permanently banned which makes it seem the spamming wasn't the reason.

Quote from: peligro on March 19, 2015, 03:54:57 AM

If the seller's other account got banned so will be yours. You took that risk when you bought it.

I checked, his account hasn't been banned.

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I don't know if you are actually participating in a discussion or trying to increase post count and thus, payment. This is same with admins. They can't know either. So you should put more effort in posting. Honestly, your posts looks spammy to me.

Quote from: pawel7777 on March 05, 2015, 07:41:37 AM

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on March 05, 2015, 03:32:08 AM

Everything is subjective, sometimes 100 meh quality posts spammed in a 1 day time frame catches a moderator/admin's attention more than 10 poor quality posts. There aren't post limits, however it goes without saying that at a certain point its hard to maintain post quality. People aren't banned on a whim, time is spent investigating especially in these situations where it isn't copy and paste/quote/smiley face/ +1 spam. Sometimes people spam meh - ok quality posts, but when you read the threads they are posting in, their posts aren't completely related or they are just reiterating prior posts to get the post count up or they are posting in threads that have already drawn a conclusion, and they are just reiterating points. People that post very frequently especially those with paid advertising signatures catch more attention sometimes than small spammers. Trust has no impact on bans or ban duration, while admittedly account age/status does minimally if I'm being honest. No one has a free ticket to spam, but a newbie with 5 of 10 of their post count being low quality are more likely to get a severe ban, than a member who has been active and posting high quality posts for a while, and slips up and spams a bit.

As I said, there are no rules on post count, you can post every 10 seconds if you wish, but the chances of your posts being quality decrease when you impose quotas.

I highlighted part which is the most common issue imo

Quote from: BadBear on March 14, 2015, 07:33:01 AM

Quote from: Bralex on March 14, 2015, 06:50:13 AM

will i get a perm banned next time?

I tend to consider sig spam bans a class of their own, as in I don't generally lengthen the duration due to previous bans, unless you are truly a bad poster or there are some other special considerations.

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Second what is sig spam? Is there a sticky that has a in depth answer like less than 10 words, posts within 5mins, 100 posts a day, 300 a week etc

A tendency to make posts in order to boost your post count, and you have an ad in your signature, particularly one that pays you per post. There is no secret invisible line that you shouldn't cross in terms of numbers, it's mostly subjective.

There are people who just don't post very well in general, post "too much", or don't really have anything to say, they just like to participate in the community and post. This itself is fine. But when you add an ad to these kinds of posters, it's difficult or impossible to tell if they just aren't quality posters or if they are attempting to boost their post count. I used to err on the side of caution here because I do not want to ban the former, just the latter, but too many of the latter are slipping through the cracks because it's very difficult to gauge someone's intentions. This is the main thing that has changed lately.

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