@Shasan After listening to you, I understand that one can use many accounts in this forum, but not Bounty Campaign/Merit Transaction/Trust Exchange. Doing so will force the forum to tag the DT member account.
You can operate as many accounts as possible. And on the same way, there is no problem if you join on bounty campaign or signature campaign unless the campaign manager/bounty manager mention they will not accept alt account. If there is no restriction by the manager then there is nothing wrong. 
Topic: ACCOUNT CONNECTED OR NOT (Read 806 times)
I wanted to tell that we can't say they may not connected as transactions may happen with friends and local people. But the proof of their authentication it is clear that they are connected. And if they break any rules (joining on same campaign/ merit transaction/trust exchange or something like that) then they should be tagged.
If tokens are traded from the yes wallet, it does not prove that they are CONNECTED. Having more than one account in this forum is not a problem. Many DT members have single accounts in this forum.@Shasan After listening to you, I understand that one can use many accounts in this forum, but not Bounty Campaign/Merit Transaction/Trust Exchange. Doing so will force the forum to tag the DT member account.
As I mentioned before, even if you're not a DT member, you still have the ability (and should use it) to provide trust feedback, just like any other forum member. For now, your feedback will be displayed as "Untrusted feedback" on the user's profile. However, if you use your feedback the right manner, following norms and best practices, other members will take notice and may consider including you in their trust lists. This is how you can eventually earn the status of DT. On the other hand, if you choose not to provide any feedback, there's no reason for people to consider promoting you to DT, since no one can predict if you'll use your powers for the betterment of the community or not.
Thanks for the explanation. I just realized about it, and even though I'm still an untrusted member it actually has influence if you tag.
I will try to analyze this account first. Even though I don't have enough competence, I'll give it a try. If indeed this is an ban evasion, I will follow up with the moderator
But as far as I know, only tags from DT will be visible in their trust. Tags from us that are not DT are not visible. It's useless if I tag it but no one can see it
As I mentioned before, even if you're not a DT member, you still have the ability (and should use it) to provide trust feedback, just like any other forum member. For now, your feedback will be displayed as "Untrusted feedback" on the user's profile. However, if you use your feedback the right manner, following norms and best practices, other members will take notice and may consider including you in their trust lists. This is how you can eventually earn the status of DT. On the other hand, if you choose not to provide any feedback, there's no reason for people to consider promoting you to DT, since no one can predict if you'll use your powers for the betterment of the community or not.
How do I report this case of ban evasion? I don't know the staff or admin here. Can I report it with "report to moderation"?
Yes, you can make use of the "Report to moderator" option. However, when providing an explanation, you should refer to the specific post or thread that contains the evidence supporting your claim. Another option, as mentioned by lovesmayfamilis, is to use a dedicated thread that you can find in the Meta section.
So it's quite complicated to ban someone. There must be very strong evidence.
Absolutely! Mods usually need to have some really solid evidence before taking such action, and rightly so. It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.
~I cut it because it's too long~
So it's quite complicated to ban someone. There must be very strong evidence. I haven't analyzed the account above, I'm still not very familiar with ninjastic and locev tools
from what I read in the quote you attached, I never thought could do that to accuse another member of ban evasion. But it is logical and quite possible to do. It must at least be a very cunning person who would have the heart to do such a thing
But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member. Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
In order to ban someone, you must submit a proper report to the moderators. There is a special topic on the META board. I won't point my finger at it, as I see that you are a fan of these boards, and you can do a great job with the search.
Did you create a report there? No.
In addition, for an account to be banned, clear evidence is required. I did not delve into this topic, but since you are rooting for it...
If the wallet numbers match, these are only alternate accounts. To ban an alternative account, you must provide the wallet number, for example, that first used the currently banned account, and after that, this wallet was used by the account to which you are filing a complaint about a violation of the rules.
It's simple. If two or more accounts have the same information (cryptocurrency addresses, email, twitter, telegram, etc.), the banned account is checked first for matching information. If the banned account has the above information mentioned later than the non-banned accounts, then ban evasion is not considered. This is done to avoid mistakes.
Let's look at such an example. One user decided to frame another to get banned. He create a new account, take the BTC address from your post and place it in any topic. After that, he post plagiarism in any topic and his account is banned. Or he can ban account using the "security question" option. Then his write a post in this topic from his main account that you are evading the ban. And the moderator bans you. And you go to Meta and start proving that this is not my account, etc.
That's to avoid such embarrassments and need such tactics.
I hope you get the gist.
If this is not the case, the moderators will not consider the report of either the beginner or the legend.
Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
It's no one's job but everyone's privilege to tag and raise flags as part of the forum's trust feedback system. You do have the tag power and by using it, you contribute to the community and become eligible for membership in DT. If you don't make use of this power, it's unlikely that others will consider including you in their trust lists.
When it comes to banning, only the mods and admins have the power to do that. As far as I know, they don't really care whether the reports are from DT members or just regular forum users.
But as far as I know, only tags from DT will be visible in their trust. Tags from us that are not DT are not visible. It's useless if I tag it but no one can see it
How do I report this case of ban evasion? I don't know the staff or admin here. Can I report it with "report to moderation"?
Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
It's no one's job but everyone's privilege to tag and raise flags as part of the forum's trust feedback system. You do have the tag power and by using it, you contribute to the community and become eligible for membership in DT. If you don't make use of this power, it's unlikely that others will consider including you in their trust lists.
When it comes to banning, only the mods and admins have the power to do that. As far as I know, they don't really care whether the reports are from DT members or just regular forum users.
What would you like to discuss more about this? The obvious connection has already been established. You can tag the accounts if you want, report them to the moderators for ban evading and move on.
Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member.
You mean, the one who discovered the account connection is Fullcoinese (OP)? A year and a half ago...
However, it's worth noting that you were the one who brought up the fact that linked accounts could be considered ban evading as well.
Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
What would you like to discuss more about this? The obvious connection has already been established. You can tag the accounts if you want, report them to the moderators for ban evading and move on.
They must be very clearly connected to each other as authentication is posted from each account using the same wallet. I think a person uses each of these accounts and tries to quickly join each account in a bounty campaign so he forgets to use one wallet for a particular account due to which he uses one wallet for different accounts. In case of wallet transactions it is not completely proof that one account is alt of another because for any reason one friend can transfer crypto from another friend. However, since a wallet is seen being used by multiple accounts through authentication post, it is clear that each of these accounts is connected.
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member. Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
They must be very clearly connected to each other as authentication is posted from each account using the same wallet. I think a person uses each of these accounts and tries to quickly join each account in a bounty campaign so he forgets to use one wallet for a particular account due to which he uses one wallet for different accounts. In case of wallet transactions it is not completely proof that one account is alt of another because for any reason one friend can transfer crypto from another friend. However, since a wallet is seen being used by multiple accounts through authentication post, it is clear that each of these accounts is connected.
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
No doubt about it, this is definitely a case of ban evasion.
#1: yohananaomi
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: elisabetheva
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elisabetheva-1035755
Telegram Username: @elisabethevaa
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Signature
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
[archive]Forum Username: elisabetheva
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elisabetheva-1035755
Telegram Username: @elisabethevaa
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Signature
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
Quote from: yohananaomi
Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: yohananaomi
Bitcointalk profile url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lepbagong-1047634
Telegram username: @yohananaomi
Joined Campaigns : Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, LinkedIn
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
[archive]Bitcointalk username: yohananaomi
Bitcointalk profile url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lepbagong-1047634
Telegram username: @yohananaomi
Joined Campaigns : Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, LinkedIn
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
And also, the same BTC addresses: https://ninjastic.space/search?content=1CngCPexZ7w3NrRPW1LoYxvtT3qrEQMKfJ
Even though he tried to cover his tracks by removing some posts from the forum, the evidence preserved in the archives is simply overwhelming.
I am still surprised why these accounts aren't yet tag, does it mean they are above the law to be tag?
I have seen several topics within my stayed here were some accounts are connected they got tag and banned, does it mean people are afraid of tagging those account for simply abusing a bounty campaign?
A recent incident in the Russian local section tells a completely different story. A member of DT1 and his alternate accounts got downvoted for cheating 5 years ago if I'm not mistaken.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58923648
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58923648
I think your post here full summarized everything which the above mentioned account is not above the law of being tag.
I don't know why the newbies are so much interested on chasing after bounty for hunt because everyone of them needs money and think of arriving at their desired pace through the hunting after bounties, base on my experience, i believe having alts in not what the forum goes against but if the forum banned you and you creates another account then it's a call for ban evasion and am afraid if that's not what will end the situation we are discussing about since those accounts were connected all together.
I accidentally found it. I think ban evansion are forum rules. For other cases like connected accounts I don't really care because the forums allow that
I think this is a ban evansion?
1. yohananaomi Still active
2. elisabetheva BANNED
3. lepbagong Still active
4. sakti0676 BANNED
1. yohananaomi Still active
2. elisabetheva BANNED
3. lepbagong Still active
4. sakti0676 BANNED
No doubt about it, this is definitely a case of ban evasion.
#1: yohananaomi
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: elisabetheva
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elisabetheva-1035755
Telegram Username: @elisabethevaa
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Signature
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
[archive]Forum Username: elisabetheva
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elisabetheva-1035755
Telegram Username: @elisabethevaa
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Signature
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
Quote from: yohananaomi
Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: yohananaomi
Bitcointalk profile url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lepbagong-1047634
Telegram username: @yohananaomi
Joined Campaigns : Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, LinkedIn
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
[archive]Bitcointalk username: yohananaomi
Bitcointalk profile url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lepbagong-1047634
Telegram username: @yohananaomi
Joined Campaigns : Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, LinkedIn
Trc20 wallet address: TEdks1ixZo48MvJjLoN8sQrWLkqwKEGaxz
And also, the same BTC addresses: https://ninjastic.space/search?content=1CngCPexZ7w3NrRPW1LoYxvtT3qrEQMKfJ
Even though he tried to cover his tracks by removing some posts from the forum, the evidence preserved in the archives is simply overwhelming.
I don't know why the newbies are so much interested on chasing after bounty for hunt because everyone of them needs money and think of arriving at their desired pace through the hunting after bounties, base on my experience, i believe having alts in not what the forum goes against but if the forum banned you and you creates another account then it's a call for ban evasion and am afraid if that's not what will end the situation we are discussing about since those accounts were connected all together.
Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue/Active)
1. yohananaomi
2. elisabetheva
3. lepbagong
4. sakti0676
Ethereum address : 0xFf0d1746B9036B925A4D40Cc3104a5Ce04413a6d : elisabetheva
Ethereum address : 0x0794c6f120331563516Ff2C0c425eeC81Ad45038 : lepbagong
Ethereum address : 0xc03913C335e1D360566442869f4Ff58179274C45 : lepbagong
Ethereum address : 0x7bc1b970A9225E325511BdAE57722Fa6DA9Bd8fc : yohananaomi
Ethereum address : 0xE86f503e8e9cdc3d4A07eF4f738a0d77F7d61521 : yohananaomi
Ethereum address : 0x6c99fA3410e8aDe5d1214F4E02B73BA503b78F6A : sakti0676
1. yohananaomi
2. elisabetheva
3. lepbagong
4. sakti0676
Ethereum address : 0xFf0d1746B9036B925A4D40Cc3104a5Ce04413a6d : elisabetheva
Ethereum address : 0x0794c6f120331563516Ff2C0c425eeC81Ad45038 : lepbagong
Ethereum address : 0xc03913C335e1D360566442869f4Ff58179274C45 : lepbagong
Ethereum address : 0x7bc1b970A9225E325511BdAE57722Fa6DA9Bd8fc : yohananaomi
Ethereum address : 0xE86f503e8e9cdc3d4A07eF4f738a0d77F7d61521 : yohananaomi
Ethereum address : 0x6c99fA3410e8aDe5d1214F4E02B73BA503b78F6A : sakti0676
I think this is a ban evansion?
1. yohananaomi Still active
2. elisabetheva BANNED
3. lepbagong Still active
4. sakti0676 BANNED
That's not what I mean, if they break a new campaign, it's no good marking them on a one year old campaign.
A recent incident in the Russian local section tells a completely different story. A member of DT1 and his alternate accounts got downvoted for cheating 5 years ago if I'm not mistaken.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58923648
Moreover, these accounts were very active and only benefited the forum with their posts. But despite this, everyone was repainted.
Therefore, if @Stalker22 found a violation, it would be fair to flag these three as well.
In my opinion, the additional evidence presented by Stalker22 suggests that Yohananaomi and Elisabetheva abused the Campaign Rules (Youcash).
That's not what I mean, if they break a new campaign, it's no good marking them on a one year old campaign.Youcash campaign held 13/July/2020, their discovery by: @lovesmayfamilis, on 16/Nov/2020, @lovesmayfamilis won't forget that, except: they are no longer involved in the same campaign.
Most cases i published in Reputation about Alt account cheating in campaign, they are involved with Alt in campaign is running 1-2 weeks, I didn't flag them cheating 1-2 years ago, campaign finished.
If the case is like this, marking them Alt cheating in the campaign has been completed 1-2 years, honestly such a phenomenon is not 1 or 3 Alt I get, hundreds,but they are aware of being flagged, so they are more careful and not greedy.
Notes:
If, in the future you find them cheating in a campaign that runs 1-2 weeks, please update it here, maybe I will, flag it.
About the post by: @Stalker22, I've seen the first time you created a topic, however, nothing new I found, so I ignored them.
Can these 3 accounts be categorized as ban envasion?
Mod/Admin, may not approve it.As stated by: @Xal0lex, maybe if you add other stronger evidence, it could be.
Note:
Just for the three of them: @yohananaomi, @elisabetheva, @lepbagong, based on preliminary and current evidence if any.
Not with @sakti0676, proof for me, it's not enough with the transaction alone, although currently @sakti0676, already blocked.
In my opinion, the additional evidence presented by Stalker22 suggests that Yohananaomi and Elisabetheva abused the Campaign Rules (Youcash).Just for the three of them: @yohananaomi, @elisabetheva, @lepbagong, based on preliminary and current evidence if any.
Not with @sakti0676, proof for me, it's not enough with the transaction alone, although currently @sakti0676, already blocked.
But what if sakti0676 is actually proven to be connected from one of the accounts below:
1. yohananaomi
2. elisabetheva
3. lepbagong
Can these 3 accounts be categorized as ban envasion?
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