Topic: Account Farmers are the new Ponzis (Read 7933 times)

Well I don't know, why does anything ever get banned?  Why does my stamp collecting forum ban me from calling all philatelists cocksuckers?  Why, I'll just do it elsewhere (note: done)!  I don't buy that argument.  I hear that one quite often from people here interested in preserving the status quo and fellating their way to the top of this forum.  I'm not having it.  You allow ponzis here and they even have their own section, but people who so much as hint at recommending a ponzi get spray painted worse than that black kid in the movie Colors.  And so on and so forth.  Ban account sales because they shouldn't be allowed and doing so makes it harder to make those sales.  Or am I just being crazy?

The marketplace of accounts here will still exist being here or outside,as long there are signatures paying for post,remove it and kill this forum ,as you all know the main interest here is the potencial income,besides several deals opportunity.

This thread become just an act to attack me because i said i had 1000 accounts,something admin can proof i never had,doesnt matter anymore.
The same way people sell stuff ,the marketplace of accounts in my vision is just a boost for those who wanna make money faster,instead of waiting 8 months to become senior they can pay to be senior and roi at the signatures.
Loans here wont die or stop,accepting accounts as colateral here is being for a long time the way to prevent loosing bitcoins and most people doesnt have any other valid colateral,soo if remove them there wont be almost no loans as people dont have nothing else to offer.
There are several trusted members with their alts accounts here,they exposed them,something i never made,and i wouldnt because some idiot just give feedback because they are against the buy an sell accounts here.

I had provided a service ,buying and sellling the accounts to others people.Scammers will make always attempts with hero,legendary senior ,full member,meanin any rank here can became a scammer from one moment to another,doesnt matter if is member for 4 years or 2 days if they wanna scam they will do from any rank.
Thanks all, for share good moments here,i had learned a lot since i were member from here.

Here we got back to the endless discussion. I don't see why we should ban account sales. If it isn't done here, it will be done elsewhere. And what about people lending money for account collaterals ?

i only agree with you, those people in this "community cult" should have created their private forum and kiss each other's asses there. Can i see the member list of people active in you "community cult" ? You should start wearing badges too.

You can't buy my cat.

Allowing signature spammers and account spammers to freely 'enjoy their work' does not contribute to the ecosystem. They are receiving an adequate monthly funding, yet only a few of them have nodes (as an example).

Mprep is not even part of a signature campaign anymore, but is auctioning off his signature space.

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This is not even really relevant to the original idea that was discussed. If they really have a problem, they would open a separate thread.

And what is the swipe on Lauda and mprep?
The fact that they are part of signature campaigns?

Lol, I'm guessing this is a swipe against hillariousandco for his negative trust on secondstrade?

I am coming home...

Mods are for sale. Lauda and mprep did prove it.

My close friend Hilarious, who is btw very hilarious when you see him, did it better.
If you want money, just use your status and start neg trusting campaign managers/owners (owners).

Bitcointalk's strategy is preventing bitcoin to grow and reach it's true potential.

Bye

90% people here posting for profit with signature campaign.forum will never bann campaign. giving idea is simple but you can't go on this way.

Either you don't know English or you don't know how to read. He never said that you're stopping anything. Why would you anyways? You're practically part of the problem apparently (multiple accounts/sales).

How am I trying to stop the sales of accounts? I said that I don't see what is wrong with buying accounts. Learn to read mate.

Mate,you need to shut the fuck up and keep your signature spam outside of this thread.You have more than 5 accounts in the same campaign,moreover ,you sell your accounts enrolled in BitMixer campaign to strangers.It could not get any worse.You commenting here about stopping account sales is ironic.Don't even try to ask for proof,just admit it.

Indeed.

I'll be direct about this:
Anyone who is too ignorant to see or care is part of the problem. In other words, you're part of the problem.

There's a huge difference between those. Falsely labeling posts as spam could also be disastrous.

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I've asked theymos for a opinion about this a few days ago and have received no response in regards to it.

Well I think that people don't want to build up their accounts all the way from brand new, so they just buy them. I really don't see what's wrong with that.

hoping to contribute to this in the right way https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/changing-lending-policy-so-you-should-1472164

It's just to show you we all do it.. All of us...

@suchmoon
LOL not even close.

You are so wrong with that.. so wrong. If you only knew..

Your quoted posts aren't even close to the kind of spam that's being discussed here. So no. These users wouldn't be banned, not for those posts anyway.

You might be confusing spam with user/posts that you disagree with or don't like. That's not how it works.

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A bot that can reliably tell "useful" replies from spam/crap/bullshit posts?
Will you code me that please, as a campaign manager I'd be pretty interested in that.
(Hint: ATM, no bot can do that, none.)

I find it very amusing how people conflict against them self while trying to be a 'Hero'. Sure the bogus post are bothering but a normal person would find no problem to avoid the same old threads. This includes newbies too. And yes there are list and plugins available to skip them.

A one-liner is no guarantee of BS, nor is a ten-line post a guarantee of a contributing post. So let's all stop pretending we don't utter BS. Because damn it is a forum it should be. Remember most of the people in the world can't even write correctly... So this is exactly what you can expect from an open forum...

Till the day of today I only found 2 users who did not post ANY BS.
- Theymos, who is all business like, which is fine
- Mexxer, who posted so many but all beneficial topic, which is quite an achievement tbh.

All others and I mean ALL others (including moderators) are posting BS occasionally

Example? Well that's easy. Here is 1 quote from a usual 'spam' thread.


Nothing new right? But if you look closer you will find 2 wannabe Hero's whom replied in this thread posting.. bogus, repeating others, rephrasing others, whatever you want to call it.
-actmyname
-tommorisonwebdesign

So what we can conclude here is that EVERYONE here has some off-topic posts. but,
The ones with a higher reputation or no signature are holy and can post whatever BS they want
And the ones who are spending their time to get paid peanuts (A signature campaign will never earn you more then 10 bucks an hour) can expect a hate campaign.

A hate campaign from members who can camouflage their BS better and are in fact doing exactly the same, since they visit those 'same old threads'... There should be a bot to check how many post 1 user made in 1 thread, without making a useful contribution, so you can see we ALL do it and not just 'a few times'

Really....

Sure there is a difference between spamming and posting plain out BS, but that line is grey and yes hard action should be taken against it/them. By default it is the signature campaigns duty to make sure their employer don't pay for BS posts. Since they are the ones who are losing money. They are the managers and they should select good candidates. If they fail either them or their employers should be addressed too. It's not

What's wrong is a moderator who apparently spends a lot of time on this forum and feels he needs to be rewarded more, stars blackmailing campaign managers, Yes that's you Hillie. That's putting too much power in the hand of 1 entity.

Sending new people away because of the 'SPAM'
I beg to differ. A lot has been said about bitcointalk, and we all agree quality is not one of them;
Scams,  How can I make 1 dollar? Altcoins...

Most people will do what I did and find another thread to get information.
Take notice that without traffic and views the forum will soon be dead because even 'average' people like
-actmyname
-tommorisonwebdesign

Will be banned.
No users means no advertisers for BCT, a dead BCT means less awareness for BCT in general.

Let's all try to avoid this, because only that will kill the forum.

I appreciate it if you read it all out.

Edit. Since I don't want my Hillie friend to delete this post let me say something on topic too.

No, accounts farmers are not creating new ponzi's are no they should not be banned. The forum should implement a system where 1 account can only be used by 2 IP's. Which leaves TOR out, but VPN's can be used. This way a user can have a max. of a few accounts and selling it an account won't be possible since you need an ecrow and a person to login.

Then add a dedicated staff person who can assign 1 extra IP for 0.01 per account. This keeps the process manageable by the staff and  account farmers need to do way more work to sell their accounts.

Honest persons who want to leave BCT (adios amigo) can still sell it for just 0.01 'fee'

What i am thinking about after reading all of this is one way to deter the spamming/botposts on this forum is to restrict newbies to "Beginners 7 Help" forum and also implement a second rating system, for post quality; one for trust and another for post quality. If users receive negative feedback they cannot be paid for signature campaigns. It's time for someone to call for a complete overhaul of the sig campaign component of this site.