Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 205. (Read 629902 times)

Guys relax. What happened to combining a list of questions every week to ask Ken?

@Zum you don't need to explain anything for Ken. Ken can do this himself. We understand that people come on here with new accounts, claim they own a bajillion shares and have been watching the company and then spit insults. That's fine, delete the insults, keep the questions, let Ken answer them. You don't need to make excuses or search for explanations, it's not your job as a shareholder or a moderator of this thread. You're putting in too much work and to some it makes it seem like you have to be getting paid to have this much patience and determination in these constant back and forth comments.

Zum: The problem as I see it... Ken has used up all of the communities faith. He continues to make decisions which are questionable at best and provides no information to those of us who provided the funding for his organization.

Maybe he is making the right decisions... but he has failed at every corner to provide us with any information to aid in our understanding. Why after all of this should anyone continue to give him any benefit of doubt. The reality is while we have no option to but wait and see if Ken actually will make good on his assurances or not as he continues to hold everyone hostage.

Honestly the lack of consideration for those who trusted him is just frustrating and if it reflects this poorly on us; those who funded him... how do you think that it looks to potential customers?

+1 and PM sent, Ken. We need sales which will never happen without pictures.

Ken,

Post pictures of the HashFast Ver2 Boards you are selling in Hand so that people will actually purchase them (Even if they are overpriced).

Operate the business correctly please.

I don't think there is any point in continuing pal..i wish you the very best with your venture of supporting this thread

So out of the 4 seperate companies trying to sell hashfast chips ken is the only one with an NDA?

Honestly there needs to be a time when you stop accepting the bullshit and demand answers.

100% 

Day 3 without pictures of supposedly in stock and hashing hardware.

I see 4 possible explanations:

-Hardware doesn't exist
-Hardware is not using own chip/board
-Ken is incredibly incompetent
-Ken is trying to make his stock plummet

Based on history I would guess it is a combination of using hashfast hardware and incredible incompetence.

Ironic. The one you were calling a shill is the one with the power to delete posts. Ken doesn't delete other people's post on this thread.

So why do you not simply buy a Hash Fast One at theire website? I'am sure you could provide us with pics, ooh and about the 3000$; i'am sure you will get that back when you mine long enough

If we had our own chip, Ken would be trying to sell it to people and would post specs.  That would be because it would generate more revenue and would raise the stock price, assuming it was competitive.  It's obvious to me that it's not our own chip.  I've followed enough of these outfits online and there is no question in my mind that AMC doesn't have one.  What I am interested in is whether we even have our own boards, or if we're really just taking some packaged boards from Hash-Fast and reselling them.

Let's say we were doing that, that's not even a terrible thing if they worked ok and we got them at a good price.  All of which is unknown.  I don't suspect Ken to come on here and say he paid $1,000 for each and is selling them for $3,000 because then people would not want to buy them.  However, right now the cost of the boards is too high due to the fact that Bitcoin is hovering around $450.  If Bitcoin jumped up to $1,000 it might make sense to sell at $3,000.  It doesn't right now.  So he should probably just mine with these boards and hope the market jumps back.  As every ten days or so their ability to produce is going to shrink by around 20%.

Ken is supposed to produce the financials at the end of the month.  I don't think this is likely but I'm waiting to see if he does.  I think if he does not or does not do it adequately that shareholders should send a third party to investigate the books and the entire outfit and report back to the shareholders as to the status of the company.

I think most of the shareholder fud as ZZ likes to call it, would go away if those of us that are owners of shares could cash them out.  Having any good news is only good if you can trade shares.  I don't know why Ken seriously just doesn't do this.  So what if the share price tanks.  Once those shares are gone and replaced by people who believe in all of this, the price will bounce back and you'll have more money and less fud.  Seems simple enough.  Right now he's just creating a lot of ill will by keeping people's shares.

Photos would help, but they could be Cedar Tech style photos of shadows and light.   Then you just get people analyzing them and drawing arrows on them, etc.  Why statements can't just be made that explain what is going on leads me and others to believe that the reason for holding back such information is because you are trying to hide something.  I'd prefer to just have my shares and get out.  Frankly, I am concerned that if we did make some deal with Hashfast and we're reselling their stuff when the courts have ordered them not to, that being a partial owner of this operation I could be held to some level of liability (Or liability towards any of the questionable actions going on here.) so I make just forfeit my shares at this point.  Before this spins even more out of control.

Yeah, maybe his methods are his own; but this is OUR money Ken used for this Company and such methods are idiotic, if not injurious malpractice( assumed there is a honest business behind, which could be damaged)
The fact that there are hundreds of shareholders of ActiveMining out there and probably not one of them ordered a Fash-Hash One show that you are probably alone with your opinion.



Everybody (or at least every shareholder) wants a good outcome. But there is nothing we could do besides promoting the fast hash one, but honestly: As long there is no prove that this product actually exists, i wll not help to get somone into the jam by persuadeing them to order(and pay for ) a product that perhaps doesn't even exist.

Price has strongly rejected these levels twice before. Look at the last time we had an ATH followed by 3 rejections at 75% below the high. So the chart is saying a rapid bounce to a new high (5-10k) by end June. It is likely but not guaranteed.

Have a look at this and consider buying every BTC you can right now.

http://i.imgur.com/SCFS7ra.png?1

So in the meantime how will ken&co. pay for electricity and infrastructure and etc?

(I'm not gonna say "we" anymore because we (as investors) clearly are not part of this op.)

It's not worth mining if we sell the coins. If we hold then it becomes worthwhile in the long run. At this point with the resources we have no other option.

Also it's likely another bubble event is within several months. If we could have our own ASIC by then we would be well positioned to make bank.

Welp, I may be a Master of the Obvious here; if this pipe dream of an operation woulda been functional even as late as last December, we'd have been in good shape. But as it stands, all this hemming and hawing about product that hasn't materialized in the real world is utterly useless even if Ken is really doing what he says he is... Of which I am highly skeptical based on tract record.

Nope, you are literally the only person to have considered that.

Has anyone considered that if the price keeps dropping there won't be much point in mining?

Or am I missing something?



...man I shoulda jumped with ffs et. al.

$800 per chip up to 500 chips at which point there is some discount (though I do not know the details of the discount)

Gah, dumbasses, sounds like they are using a trade engine intended for currency, yah, you can sell 10 BTC, charge 0.1 BTC and credit that 0.1 back to your overall liquidity position, but you can't split shares and add fractions back, eejuts.