Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 3. (Read 629889 times)
December 11, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
Someone should alert the SEC
December 11, 2015, 09:46:46 PM
any news here? i dont want to bother shawn haggerty any more than i need to but ken has missed his date to pay fines (i assume) and i wonder what is next?
November 12, 2015, 05:59:03 PM
It is well past the date when the fines ken owes are due. Now men is wanted by the federales and will be put in jail. I'm pretty sure he hasnt bothered to pay any fines. Shawn Haggerty told me its up to the FBI to track down people who refuse to pay. If anyone knows where he's at give the gmen a heads up.
November 12, 2015, 12:41:36 PM
Is the guy behind this scam already in jail?
How's the case going?
How's the case going?
November 12, 2015, 07:26:44 AM
What a scam! I don't know what is the state right now?
I lost all my investment in this scam ActiveMining.
October 26, 2015, 12:16:45 AM
chirp chirp.
October 06, 2015, 11:57:36 PM
isnt the deadline for kenny to pay his fines coming up? i seem to remember he had until the end of october to cough up or the FBI comes looking
July 19, 2015, 01:12:38 AM
I'm pretty sure I have about 10,000 shares of ActM that never transferred out of Bitfunder.
Heh
Heh
July 06, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
ok, this info about fraudulent dealings with hashfast trending in other sections.... namely here; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/psa-cypherdoc-is-a-paid-shill-liar-and-probably-epic-scammer-hashfast-affair-1105722
since kenny was in bed with hashfast I feel this info is of GREAT interest to the users here who got burnt by this whole sham.
seeing as how the "hashfast deal" that ken may or may not have done, obfuscated with grandiose claims of NDA and ultimately blamed for the ultimate downfall of the already doomed and failed ACTIVEmining... it makes me wonder what exactly Ken's real relationship with hashfast was? what kind of back-room chicanery was really going on? just how deep does this fraud run? as far as kenny is running from the law right now?
also makes me wonder confirms my suspicions about zumzero's role in this whole fiasco, his incessant shilling and constant denial (dont bother commenting zum, ive had you on ignore for months)
anyways... the plot thickens....
since kenny was in bed with hashfast I feel this info is of GREAT interest to the users here who got burnt by this whole sham.
Sooooo, 'someone' got a matter that deserves wide interest and general discussion promptly moved to "Scam Accusations" side topic.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/psa-cypherdoc-is-a-paid-shill-liar-and-probably-epic-scammer-hashfast-affair-1105722 even though 5 legendary high-trust members felt fit to comment upon it. It is time to begin a meta discussion about how we deal with known bad actors from inside bitcointalk. Especially now we have clear knowledge of paid disinformation agents covertly running pay-per-topic-pumping schemes on these forum boards.
We cannot tolerate knowingly harboring nascent scammers and paid shills in our midst. Would the moderator who moved the above topic like to explain who contacted him/her and if he was paid to move the topic by cypherdoc to do so?
Here was the original legal document if anyone can't be bothered linking to the revelation. Judge for yourself if this scandal is worthy of general discussion?
http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2k5w2nwul/california-northern-bankruptcy-court/hashfast-technologies-llc-adversary-proceeding/
Looks like cypherdoc siphoned 3000BTC off Hashfast while customers were pre-paying for undelivered mining equipment. The payments were made in return for his 'shilling' on bitcointalk.org in the HashFastEndorsement thread. So probably some kind of pass-thru, tunnel or quid pro quo arrangement to ultimately bilk HashFast customers, I mean $2,274 per post, wtf?!
Edit: okay, I got a reply from the mod who moved the original post and it seems like he legitimately thought it was a scam accusation, although I didn't intend it like that. I think it is because the court documents show defense claims of $2,274 per bitcointalk.org post seem so outrageous on the face of it that the original post may indeed look like a scam accusation, which it isn't per se.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/psa-cypherdoc-is-a-paid-shill-liar-and-probably-epic-scammer-hashfast-affair-1105722 even though 5 legendary high-trust members felt fit to comment upon it. It is time to begin a meta discussion about how we deal with known bad actors from inside bitcointalk. Especially now we have clear knowledge of paid disinformation agents covertly running pay-per-topic-pumping schemes on these forum boards.
We cannot tolerate knowingly harboring nascent scammers and paid shills in our midst. Would the moderator who moved the above topic like to explain who contacted him/her and if he was paid to move the topic by cypherdoc to do so?
Here was the original legal document if anyone can't be bothered linking to the revelation. Judge for yourself if this scandal is worthy of general discussion?
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gov.uscourts.canb.532683.1.0.pdf
Inside that document the title will be:
California Northern Bankruptcy Court Case No. 15-03011 Hashfast Technologies LLC- Adversary Proceeding Document 1
Examine p1, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the times of the Transfers, the BTC transferred to the Defendant were worth $363,861.43. Based on the value of the BTC at the time of the transfers, the Defendant received approximately $11,370 per day or $2,274 per post on the “HashFast Endorsement” thread on Bitcointalk.org. By contrast, the highest salary paid to any principal or employee of HFT and/or HF was $144,000 for the entire calendar year of 2013."
Examine p3, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the time of the Transfers, the Debtors owed substantial sums of money and/or equipment to numerous customers and/or vendors. Many of these obligations remain unpaid and constitute general unsecured claims against the Estate. As of September 30, 2013, the Debtors’ balance sheet had a negative equity balance of about $5 million."
Inside that document the title will be:
California Northern Bankruptcy Court Case No. 15-03011 Hashfast Technologies LLC- Adversary Proceeding Document 1
Examine p1, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the times of the Transfers, the BTC transferred to the Defendant were worth $363,861.43. Based on the value of the BTC at the time of the transfers, the Defendant received approximately $11,370 per day or $2,274 per post on the “HashFast Endorsement” thread on Bitcointalk.org. By contrast, the highest salary paid to any principal or employee of HFT and/or HF was $144,000 for the entire calendar year of 2013."
Examine p3, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the time of the Transfers, the Debtors owed substantial sums of money and/or equipment to numerous customers and/or vendors. Many of these obligations remain unpaid and constitute general unsecured claims against the Estate. As of September 30, 2013, the Debtors’ balance sheet had a negative equity balance of about $5 million."
http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2k5w2nwul/california-northern-bankruptcy-court/hashfast-technologies-llc-adversary-proceeding/
Looks like cypherdoc siphoned 3000BTC off Hashfast while customers were pre-paying for undelivered mining equipment. The payments were made in return for his 'shilling' on bitcointalk.org in the HashFastEndorsement thread. So probably some kind of pass-thru, tunnel or quid pro quo arrangement to ultimately bilk HashFast customers, I mean $2,274 per post, wtf?!
Edit: okay, I got a reply from the mod who moved the original post and it seems like he legitimately thought it was a scam accusation, although I didn't intend it like that. I think it is because the court documents show defense claims of $2,274 per bitcointalk.org post seem so outrageous on the face of it that the original post may indeed look like a scam accusation, which it isn't per se.
seeing as how the "hashfast deal" that ken may or may not have done, obfuscated with grandiose claims of NDA and ultimately blamed for the ultimate downfall of the already doomed and failed ACTIVEmining... it makes me wonder what exactly Ken's real relationship with hashfast was? what kind of back-room chicanery was really going on? just how deep does this fraud run? as far as kenny is running from the law right now?
also makes me wonder confirms my suspicions about zumzero's role in this whole fiasco, his incessant shilling and constant denial (dont bother commenting zum, ive had you on ignore for months)
anyways... the plot thickens....
June 14, 2015, 07:00:42 PM
Oh well it was real guys. Anyway check out some of the projects I'm involved in now.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltb103-seek-and-find/
Let's all start eating at the same table.
June 14, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Oh well it was real guys. Anyway check out some of the projects I'm involved in now.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
An investment with so losely described plans?
An exchange that spends their time with, it seems, getting models to wear ads for them, making fun on their facebook page and then want to be seen legit, used and get into profit zone?
And a voting system? Where to earn money at all from it?
Maybe i misunderstood and your investment is more a donation than an investment. But so far i dont have any hope that you could get your money back. I might be wrong of course.
June 12, 2015, 09:37:44 AM
Oh well it was real guys. Anyway check out some of the projects I'm involved in now.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
wow, looks like another poor choice to put money on - they have a $7M IPO and only sold $14k in the last 12 days
thats 0.2% of the IPO sold.
People have been burned so much with these so called "securities" nobody even pays attention to them anymore...
June 12, 2015, 09:26:20 AM
Oh well it was real guys. Anyway check out some of the projects I'm involved in now.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
wow, looks like another poor choice to put money on - they have a $7M IPO and only sold $14k in the last 12 days
thats 0.2% of the IPO sold.
June 12, 2015, 08:31:34 AM
Oh well it was real guys. Anyway check out some of the projects I'm involved in now.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BTR
https://www.facebook.com/barterocf
www.bitcongress.org
June 12, 2015, 08:28:34 AM
Where's Ken? It's been a while.
June 09, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
June 09, 2015, 08:41:09 PM
Jesus Christ, I need to stop getting pissed and posting in this thread!
The kslaughter pm is legit. Either his account has been hacked or someone he knows is having a laugh. Either way it's almost certain that those words are not Ken's.
The kslaughter pm is legit. Either his account has been hacked or someone he knows is having a laugh. Either way it's almost certain that those words are not Ken's.
You need to go full retard and shove a cup in your a$$.
Underwhelmed
June 03, 2015, 04:58:36 PM
hahaha just because
June 02, 2015, 06:58:11 AM
Yeah... i tried to reach Chap Sheppard, Shawn Hagerty and Scott Johnson since some time too. And 10 minutes ago i got an email from Shawn stating:
Thanks for calling too gogxmagog!
So next question would be if, at the end, there is any reasonable amount of money to be spread. I mean we dont speak only about the IPO-Coins, we speak about the preorder money and so on.
I realized that i dont have any trading data on activemining anymore. Which really isnt good in case i would want to claim my losses.
Though first thing would be to find out the damage in total and what, if at all, can be spread to the victims. What happened to the eASIC-Money that ken claimed should be paid back. If that would still exist then it would be a nice portion.
If someone gets any info then let me know. So that i know if its worth climbing behind trading data and all.
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Thank you for the information.
I will see that it gets shared with the Missouri Attorney General's Office, who does our collections.
Shawn
I will see that it gets shared with the Missouri Attorney General's Office, who does our collections.
Shawn
Thanks for calling too gogxmagog!
So next question would be if, at the end, there is any reasonable amount of money to be spread. I mean we dont speak only about the IPO-Coins, we speak about the preorder money and so on.
I realized that i dont have any trading data on activemining anymore. Which really isnt good in case i would want to claim my losses.
Though first thing would be to find out the damage in total and what, if at all, can be spread to the victims. What happened to the eASIC-Money that ken claimed should be paid back. If that would still exist then it would be a nice portion.
If someone gets any info then let me know. So that i know if its worth climbing behind trading data and all.
I had first contacted Shawn Hagerty before Crypto::Trade shit the bed, so I had saved my API and screen capped my trading info. I had similar info from Bitfunder and BTC-TC so I was able to tally it all up and give him my total shares purchased, the price I paid, and where/when I got them. He had requested me to provide this info and YES it is OK if you are not a USA citizen. Anyway, I'm surprized you didnt already do this, but if you can "back-trace" the info, do it. He needs it if you are to see any of what might get distributed.
I have my info from btct.co, since they offered to download it. There wasnt a way for bitfunder, as far as i remember, and most probably i had the impression all is lost anyway. Which might still be the case. Guess it will be hard to get that data then. *sigh*
Anyway... the 29th is gone. Hopefully claiming went well. I wonder if we could get info about if there were coins on mtgox at all. Though when you think about it... ken logged into shortly after we started speaking about the gox coins. This might mean there are coins.
Though they would be way too few anyway if there arent other funds too. Taking preorders and IPO investments together. Maybe even losses from trading, though that might only be valid for a proven outright scam.
June 01, 2015, 04:03:16 AM
Jesus Christ, I need to stop getting pissed and posting in this thread!
The kslaughter pm is legit. Either his account has been hacked or someone he knows is having a laugh. Either way it's almost certain that those words are not Ken's.
The kslaughter pm is legit. Either his account has been hacked or someone he knows is having a laugh. Either way it's almost certain that those words are not Ken's.
You need to go full retard and shove a cup in your a$$.
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