Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 56. (Read 629899 times)
June 14, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
Gold Rush is out of stock. Hopefully Ken have some more around.
June 14, 2014, 04:41:14 PM
Either way trading is still available so if anyone wants to dump their shares on CT they have that ability.
Or buy more, right?
(for someone to 'dump' someone else needs to buy)
Forgive me if I'm wrong but you seem awfully biased in you stated opinions.
June 14, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
I see no possibility that Bargraphics (who is known to Ken and presumably the MSD) would lie about speaking to the MSD on here when we know the MSD read this.
Interestingly CT is not mentioned in the MSD paperwork only BF, CS and Btc-tc. So they overlooked it likely because it is still a fairly recent development and didn't involve the IPO. I think they may have thought the shares were still offline?
If so they are sure to act on CT soon. Why wouldn't they?
Interestingly CT is not mentioned in the MSD paperwork only BF, CS and Btc-tc. So they overlooked it likely because it is still a fairly recent development and didn't involve the IPO. I think they may have thought the shares were still offline?
If so they are sure to act on CT soon. Why wouldn't they?
June 14, 2014, 03:52:40 PM
@equipoise: Snarkiness and sarcasm from you? Your "understanding," at least regarding financial and legal matters, has led you to lose 99.8 percent of your "investment."
I would suggest you stop relying on your "understanding."
And start being more polite to your betters.
*But Bargraphics could be snapping up shares in the meantime. It's an interesting gamble. If I knew Ken had money...
I would suggest you stop relying on your "understanding."
And start being more polite to your betters.
*But Bargraphics could be snapping up shares in the meantime. It's an interesting gamble. If I knew Ken had money...
June 14, 2014, 03:47:04 PM
What course of action should an investor from the UK take now? Is there anyone I should contact in regards to making a claim for compensation or should I just dump my shares for a pittance on CT and have done with it?
There were a few people from the UK that have asked this question. I highly recommend to contact the MSD and ask what your options are that way you can make an informed decision.
Unfortunately I don't see CT being available much longer as every day that Ken allows trading on there he is going against the MSD order.
I thought that it meant that he could not issue more shares? Not that they could not be traded?
Can you source the 'can't be traded' part of the official statement made by the MSD, please?
This is my understanding and interpretation of how the MSD would see this.
http://freepdfhosting.com/0d53fc3f43.pdf
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NOW THEREFORE, it is hereby ordered that Respondents, their agents, employees and
servants, and all other persons participating in or about to participate in the above-described
violations with knowledge of this Order are prohibited from violating or materially aiding in any
violation of Section 409.3-301, RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by offering or selling unregistered,
non-exempt securities; from violating or materially aiding in any violation of Section 409.4-
402(a), RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by transacting business as an unregistered agent; from
violating or materially aiding in any violation of Section 409.4-402(d), RSMo. (Cum. Supp.
2012), by employing or associating with an unregistered agent; and from violating or materially
aiding in any violation of Section 409.5-501, RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by, in connection with
the offer or sale of securities, making an untrue statement of a material fact or omitting to state a
material fact necessary in order to make the statement made, in light of the circumstances under
which it is made, not misleading or engaging in an act, practice, or course of business that
operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon another person
servants, and all other persons participating in or about to participate in the above-described
violations with knowledge of this Order are prohibited from violating or materially aiding in any
violation of Section 409.3-301, RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by offering or selling unregistered,
non-exempt securities; from violating or materially aiding in any violation of Section 409.4-
402(a), RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by transacting business as an unregistered agent; from
violating or materially aiding in any violation of Section 409.4-402(d), RSMo. (Cum. Supp.
2012), by employing or associating with an unregistered agent; and from violating or materially
aiding in any violation of Section 409.5-501, RSMo. (Cum. Supp. 2012), by, in connection with
the offer or sale of securities, making an untrue statement of a material fact or omitting to state a
material fact necessary in order to make the statement made, in light of the circumstances under
which it is made, not misleading or engaging in an act, practice, or course of business that
operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon another person
Since CT is not a decentralized exchange and Ken has control over if the shares can be sold/traded or not I believe in that regard he is not following his order from the MSD.
This is my interpretation and when I mentioned it to Shawn @ the MSD he found it interesting.
It's usually not good practice to operate in "grey areas" when you've received a cease and desist from the US Gov and are currently residing in the US.
Either way trading is still available so if anyone wants to dump their shares on CT they have that ability.
June 14, 2014, 03:42:35 PM
^Could you possibly see the difference between the two examples? Possibly not.
June 14, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
...If any officials are purposely cumbering Ken to fulfill this particular obligations on this contract they could face the law too - that's my understanding.
My dope dealer promised to install a sink for me (verbal contract). There's nothing illegal bout installing sinks. If he gets arrested and put in jail, he won't be able to fulfill said verbal contract. Therefore, no one will put him in jail 'coz that would cumber
June 14, 2014, 03:26:05 PM
^English is not my maternal language, but from what I read from the order the problem is that the shares were issued and not registered - that was the fine for. Oral contract is also a contract in face of the law. The "virtual shares" holders have a contract with Ken and basically the contract is: virtual shares holders are giving Ken bitcoins in exchange of Ken producing/buying bitcoin mining equipment and whatever is mined except all the expenses is given back to the virtual shares holders. There is nothing illegal in bitcoin mining so this is a legal contract. If any officials are purposely cumbering Ken to fulfill this particular obligations on this contract they could face the law too - that's my understanding.
June 14, 2014, 02:44:56 PM
What course of action should an investor from the UK take now? Is there anyone I should contact in regards to making a claim for compensation or should I just dump my shares for a pittance on CT and have done with it?
There were a few people from the UK that have asked this question. I highly recommend to contact the MSD and ask what your options are that way you can make an informed decision.
Unfortunately I don't see CT being available much longer as every day that Ken allows trading on there he is going against the MSD order.
I thought that it meant that he could not issue more shares? Not that they could not be traded?
Can you source the 'can't be traded' part of the official statement made by the MSD, please?
June 14, 2014, 02:34:30 PM
What course of action should an investor from the UK take now? Is there anyone I should contact in regards to making a claim for compensation or should I just dump my shares for a pittance on CT and have done with it?
There were a few people from the UK that have asked this question. I highly recommend to contact the MSD and ask what your options are that way you can make an informed decision.
Unfortunately I don't see CT being available much longer as every day that Ken allows trading on there he is going against the MSD order.
Thanks for your advice, I've just emailed the MSD so hopefully they'll be able to guide me further.
June 14, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
What course of action should an investor from the UK take now? Is there anyone I should contact in regards to making a claim for compensation or should I just dump my shares for a pittance on CT and have done with it?
There were a few people from the UK that have asked this question. I highly recommend to contact the MSD and ask what your options are that way you can make an informed decision.
Unfortunately I don't see CT being available much longer as every day that Ken allows trading on there he is going against the MSD order.
_____________________________________________________________________________
MSD Info:
Shawn Hagerty
Investigator
Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division
600 W. Main St., Box 1276
Jefferson City, MO 65102
573-526-3901
573-526-3124 (fax)
[email protected]
Wood Law Info:
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
888-237-0999
1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105
1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
June 14, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
What course of action should an investor from the UK take now? Is there anyone I should contact in regards to making a claim for compensation or should I just dump my shares for a pittance on CT and have done with it?
June 14, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
...I'm going to back off...
It worked for rpietila. Good luck.
June 14, 2014, 01:23:01 PM
zumzero your are embarrassing yourself.
Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
Only Crowley's interpretation is worth reading. But I do take your point, I'm going to back off and let you all bump the MSD contact information to your hearts content.
So long as no-one mentions 'zumzero' and has a go, I promise not to post again.
June 14, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
zumzero your are embarrassing yourself.
Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
Its like i am witnessing someone regress, day-by-day. I believe we are now currently down to an age, before ones self respect kicks in. Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
June 14, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
zumzero your are embarrassing yourself.
Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
Suck it up, read some Lao Tsu, and hush for a bit.
June 14, 2014, 12:12:37 PM
_____________________________________________________________________________
MSD Info:
Shawn Hagerty
Investigator
Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division
600 W. Main St., Box 1276
Jefferson City, MO 65102
573-526-3901
573-526-3124 (fax)
[email protected]
Wood Law Info:
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
888-237-0999
1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105
1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
MSD Info:
Shawn Hagerty
Investigator
Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division
600 W. Main St., Box 1276
Jefferson City, MO 65102
573-526-3901
573-526-3124 (fax)
[email protected]
Wood Law Info:
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
888-237-0999
1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105
1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
June 14, 2014, 12:00:05 PM
Ok Ok I've had my fun with you,
http://www.easic.com/vmc-uses-easic-to-achieve-24-756-ths-bitcoin-miner/
A Scam it is not
http://www.easic.com/vmc-uses-easic-to-achieve-24-756-ths-bitcoin-miner/
A Scam it is not
Guess I might have cheated
Even if this company is late, they are one of the only companies offering refunds. If you ordered a unit and think you will not receive it, get a refund. Otherwise sit tight because chips are incoming.
I'm not part of VMC. I already told you I could care less if they end up being a "scam". By all means they could end up defrauding their customers like HashFast and BFL or simply running away like Terrahash. Doesn't change the fact (Even though you are a complete asshole)
Quote from: #Activemining
Wow! Threats of violence. That's bad man.
. At least one of the two account holders expressed that they felt treatened when they learned this so whether or not you didn't mean to incite violence, the law still takes behaviour like this on a forum very seriously indeed.That took 5 mins and I haven't even scratchd the surface. A quick look into your shady history reveals you were a shill in the Terrahash scam. Wow, whatever next? I'm just glad this thread is monitored so your new found buddies from the US Gov can asked you about your dodgy goings on when they decide to interview you.
You liking that for mud slinging?
Now tell them who you were before you started the Bargraphics account on June 19th 2013 or do I need to do that for you?
June 14, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
Your apologies? You started it you muppet. You think you are the authority and can post your snidey manipulative quotes without being challenged? Who do you think you are?
If someone makes a post it is not for you to quote them and edit their words and post it to create a deceitful impression of that person. You are bang out of order and your actions demonstrate that the almighty Bargraphics punches below the belt. What does this say about your character in business? Well one only need guess.
If someone makes a post it is not for you to quote them and edit their words and post it to create a deceitful impression of that person. You are bang out of order and your actions demonstrate that the almighty Bargraphics punches below the belt. What does this say about your character in business? Well one only need guess.
As I figured, absolutely nothing as per usual.
_____________________________________________________________________________
MSD Info:
Shawn Hagerty
Investigator
Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division
600 W. Main St., Box 1276
Jefferson City, MO 65102
573-526-3901
573-526-3124 (fax)
[email protected]
Wood Law Info:
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
888-237-0999
1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105
1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
MSD Info:
Shawn Hagerty
Investigator
Missouri Secretary of State, Securities Division
600 W. Main St., Box 1276
Jefferson City, MO 65102
573-526-3901
573-526-3124 (fax)
[email protected]
Wood Law Info:
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
888-237-0999
1100 Main Street, Suite 1800, Kansas City, Missouri 64105
1736 E. Sunshine Street, Suite 209, Springfield, Missouri 65804
June 14, 2014, 11:47:23 AM
Your apologies? You started it you muppet. You think you are the authority and can post your snidey manipulative quotes without being challenged? Who do you think you are?
If someone makes a post it is not for you to quote them and edit their words and post it to create a deceitful impression of that person. You are bang out of order and your actions demonstrate that the almighty Bargraphics punches below the belt. What does this say about your character in business? Well one only need guess.
If someone makes a post it is not for you to quote them and edit their words and post it to create a deceitful impression of that person. You are bang out of order and your actions demonstrate that the almighty Bargraphics punches below the belt. What does this say about your character in business? Well one only need guess.
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