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People are obviously in panic or just sick of this silent treatment.
Ken, it's time to pull your head out of your ass and start talking.



Yes. Bob is all worked up so Ken should come in and soothe his panic.  Roll Eyes
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People are obviously in panic or just sick of this silent treatment.
Ken, it's time to pull your head out of your ass and start talking.



Why?  The price is dropping.  Big deal.  People screamed for an eASIC press release, and Ken and Co. delivered.  If you are ready to jump, then there is the door.  Do I want to see people abandon ship at this point in the game?  No.  That being said, I think it would be incredibly stupid for people to continue dumping.  ActM has delivered much more evidence of what they have in the pipelines compared to the other guys.  Just be patient, and wait for November, or don't.  Nobody cares.
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People are obviously in panic or just sick of this silent treatment.
Ken, it's time to pull your head out of your ass and start talking selling.

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finally people are selling.

where is ken ?
he does not have 5 minutes to write some words ?

maybe he is at Bahamas spending money ?

maybe he is kidnapped ?

his laptop is broken ?

wtf is this company lol.
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I threw $80 at Fivver.com for some various Logo Designs.

Will post them up here once I get them back, I ordered quick turnarounds for them so will likely have some to show within 24-48hours.

If one looks good I'll just hand it over to Ken for free.

You are well aware that Ken has not made any indication that he is willing to change the logo, yes?  There is a high probability that he's going to keep is retro "Terminator 2" logo.  If he does, I'm merely out of a couple hours of spare time.  You'll be out $80.  Please do not take it upon yourselves to throw your personal money at this company, unless it is in the form of investing.  Just by two bits.
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Better but the VMC is too thin and as I said before looks cheap. The current one is better than this, the merging letters just jar really badly for me and don't work. You shouldn't have to read the sub heading to figure out what the upper text is supposed to represent.

Well, I would respectively have to disagree with you.  Typically, big fat fonts are seldom used in minimalist-typographic designs, which is what I was going for.  For reference, this is what I am trying to improve upon.



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Better but the VMC is too thin and as I said before looks cheap. The current one is better than this, the merging letters just jar really badly for me and don't work. You shouldn't have to read the sub heading to figure out what the upper text is supposed to represent.
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Honestly that is so visually confusing.

The first bit looks like Roman numerals 'III', and the V is disrupted by the last I which makes the V look like part of an extended N.

Way way too complicated.

That is why in my original mock up, I included one without the "design" which is a minimalist play on hazryder's three boxes.

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Honestly that is so visually confusing.

The first bit looks like Roman numerals 'III', and the V is disrupted by the last I which makes the V look like part of an extended N.

Way way too complicated.
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Just to add a little more perspective.

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The best I've seen so far.

I figured that I would take a crack at this.



I don't think any of these are as eye catching or as plain and clear as the current logo (which is naff). Far too confusing on the eye, in situ they cause a lot of visual conflict and they look cheap.





You obviously are not a designer. LOL

As someone with quite a bit of experience with branding and identity, I'll say that I see what you were going for, but that it's not quite there. To even begin to get there, you'd need to backtrack a bit.

The larger problem here, is that this is not how the branding process should be done. It should not be in the public eye, and it should be instigated by a company that WANTS to rebrand. Within that process there is much communication about the goals and identity of the brand, which the designer then attempts to realize by using their empathy and experience to translate a brand personality into graphics.

Branding design is a problem-solving process, not an exhibition. The first problem to solve is getting the client comfortable with your ability to solve their problems, and thus form the trust required to take them to a new, and uncomfortable, place.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at that. Great effort, but I suspect you are wasting your time for a number of reasons, including the ones mentioned above.

I agree for the most part.  You cannot force good design on a company that feels as if they do not need it.  It's a sad reality that people like me deal with on a day to day basis.  To be honest, this is faaaaaar from what I would even consider a working logo.  My typical design process is through elimination.  I will design dozens of variants of someone's logo, and see which ones the client as well as focus groups respond to.  I will then go back and rework the ones that seemed to appeal to the customer and potential users, until we finally land on "the one."  It's a long and tedious process, which is why when I do a logo design, I charge and receive a premium.  In this case, because I am not working with Ken directly, nor am I anticipating getting paid, I am not going to waste a significant amount of time and man hours on a project that Ken has no stake in (we see how that worked out for Lewicky).  My hope, is that I can help keep the conversation steered towards the idea that Ken needs help from a marketing standpoint, and that he will hopefully utilize some of the services that people such as myself are volunteering.
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This is the best logo thus far:

Alright then guys, here's one of the two logo concepts I've been working on today, still based around the same idea as the first:





Also, I left my desk for 10 minutes only to come back and find VMC and Bootstrap doing the naughty:

http://pastehtml.com/view/dfmmsv4qq.html

I agree whole heartedly. The only reason I worked up the few examples I did was so we would have a few "free: options on the table.  If the only reason Ken is not going for this one, is because he doesn't want to pay lewicky for it, I'd like us to have an alternative. 
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The best I've seen so far.

I figured that I would take a crack at this.



I don't think any of these are as eye catching or as plain and clear as the current logo (which is naff). Far too confusing on the eye, in situ they cause a lot of visual conflict and they look cheap.





You obviously are not a designer. LOL

As someone with quite a bit of experience with branding and identity, I'll say that I see what you were going for, but that it's not quite there. To even begin to get there, you'd need to backtrack a bit.

The larger problem here, is that this is not how the branding process should be done. It should not be in the public eye, and it should be instigated by a company that WANTS to rebrand. Within that process there is much communication about the goals and identity of the brand, which the designer then attempts to realize by using their empathy and experience to translate a brand personality into graphics.

Branding design is a problem-solving process, not an exhibition. The first problem to solve is getting the client comfortable with your ability to solve their problems, and thus form the trust required to take them to a new, and uncomfortable, place.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at that. Great effort, but I suspect you are wasting your time for a number of reasons, including the ones mentioned above.
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This is the best logo thus far:

Alright then guys, here's one of the two logo concepts I've been working on today, still based around the same idea as the first:





Also, I left my desk for 10 minutes only to come back and find VMC and Bootstrap doing the naughty:

http://pastehtml.com/view/dfmmsv4qq.html
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Correct I'm not, and neither will be 99% of the customers who order via the website.
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The best I've seen so far.

I figured that I would take a crack at this.



I don't think any of these are as eye catching or as plain and clear as the current logo (which is naff). Far too confusing on the eye, in situ they cause a lot of visual conflict and they look cheap.





You obviously are not a designer. LOL
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The best I've seen so far.

I figured that I would take a crack at this.



I don't think any of these are as eye catching or as plain and clear as the current logo (which is naff). Far too confusing on the eye, in situ they cause a lot of visual conflict and they look cheap.



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