Dear Fellow (disappointed) Share Holders,
Why do you all think Ken ignores all requests and demands to restart trading?
He is skilled at ignoring postings that might be found as offensive. We saw Ken break down just once.
Tomorrow is weekly PR day. Will there be more lies and excuses or will Ken finally come clean and be honest about the state of affairs of Active Mining?
Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 17. (Read 771523 times)
February 11, 2014, 10:18:47 AM
February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Hey did anyone else notice that eASIC have taken the wraps off their 28nm line?
February 11, 2014, 10:13:06 AM
Look everyone this is what happens when you invest what you can't afford.
I don't disagree with you... just adding for consideration. Open up trading and let people like this get out with what ever loss they feel appropriate. It's hard to judge those over extended or frustrated.
It would be in everyone's best interest for full trading to resume so those who want out can get out.
February 11, 2014, 10:00:31 AM
Ok lets get a few things straight, I put everything into this company and can be very emotional at times, Ken's blockade of our shares is completely selfish.
Also I have been working 16 hour shifts at the cafe and had some trouble at work, I am behind on rent and read some more of this thread on my break, I continued to get pissed off because Ken is actively blocking us and ruining everything. So I got emotional and posted my '20bitcoin' offer.
Do I really want to convert 500 bitcoin into 20? Of course not, but my faith in Ken shatters almost everytime he posts.
I just don't want to be left with 0 bitcoin, this is all I have, hence the shitty job.
Your selfish attitude has not only fucked it for everyone else, but compromised your own security by revealing your public address.
0.0001747869 is the price you will sell at so why would anyone now buy the remaining Ukyo shares at 0.0005, smart-arse?
That was the point, try to keep up. I am being cornered by Ken and reacting, I have no control over my ownership of the shares and am forced to try alternative ways to stop Ken from being a jerk and let us trade. (Lift the block).
Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
+1 to that. The only reason I am being pushy is because this man is actively blocking any ability for me to leave.
I want access to a trading platform and I want market rates, not fucking Ken rates.
Right, go to one stupid investment to another, NEOBEE bought out UKYO right? What a joke.
lol, take away everything else that has happened over the past six months, this post proves you have no shares and you are a Troll.
No one would say they are selling 60% below market value! You must be either clinically insane or a Troll as has been suggested a few times before. I used to think you were genuine but no large shareholder would destroy 60% of the value of their own holdings while at the same time make it less likely that trading will happen for us all.
I tried to buy shares off you last week and everytime I lowered my offer you went 'yes OK'. You didn't try to haggle for a good price - so you don't even have any shares to sell do you? Evidence please.
Miner, please keep up.
I said that market value is 60% below the current 'Ken' value. If 0.0005 is taking it's time to shift with 200,000 shares, with several million there is no way 0.0005 is market value.
I want a good deal, I keep hoping to get 100 bitcoin at least (An increase on my fiat investment) However sometimes I feel that we are mere hours away from Ken saying "Sorry guys, it's over" and I freak out. That's everything I own, that could be worth 0 if Ken declares the operation is over. And assets? I am 99% sure we have no where near 1000 bitcoin.
Also I have been working 16 hour shifts at the cafe and had some trouble at work, I am behind on rent and read some more of this thread on my break, I continued to get pissed off because Ken is actively blocking us and ruining everything. So I got emotional and posted my '20bitcoin' offer.
Do I really want to convert 500 bitcoin into 20? Of course not, but my faith in Ken shatters almost everytime he posts.
I just don't want to be left with 0 bitcoin, this is all I have, hence the shitty job.
I'm now selling 114,425 shares for 20 bitcoin, anyone interested?
Your selfish attitude has not only fucked it for everyone else, but compromised your own security by revealing your public address.
0.0001747869 is the price you will sell at so why would anyone now buy the remaining Ukyo shares at 0.0005, smart-arse?
That was the point, try to keep up. I am being cornered by Ken and reacting, I have no control over my ownership of the shares and am forced to try alternative ways to stop Ken from being a jerk and let us trade. (Lift the block).
Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
I'm now selling 114,425 shares for 20 bitcoin, anyone interested?
Ken has allowed this 108btc fiasco to become something much more than it need have been.+1 to that. The only reason I am being pushy is because this man is actively blocking any ability for me to leave.
I want access to a trading platform and I want market rates, not fucking Ken rates.
DTS - I have some direct NEOBEE shares. I will trade you 20 BTC worth of them for all of your ActM shares.
I am prepared to sign these shares over to you today if you accept my offer.
Please do not PM me on this matter as I want this done publicly. The ball is in your court.
6667 NEOBEE shares @ .003 = 20.001 btc
So we trade my 6667 NEOBEE direct shares for your 114,425 ActM shares.
I am prepared to sign these shares over to you today if you accept my offer.
Please do not PM me on this matter as I want this done publicly. The ball is in your court.
6667 NEOBEE shares @ .003 = 20.001 btc
So we trade my 6667 NEOBEE direct shares for your 114,425 ActM shares.
Right, go to one stupid investment to another, NEOBEE bought out UKYO right? What a joke.
I advise you all not to purchase any shares above 0.0002 because when we trade I will sell all of mine at 0.0002. So if you're buying these overpriced shares at 0.0005 you're an idiot.
lol, take away everything else that has happened over the past six months, this post proves you have no shares and you are a Troll.
No one would say they are selling 60% below market value! You must be either clinically insane or a Troll as has been suggested a few times before. I used to think you were genuine but no large shareholder would destroy 60% of the value of their own holdings while at the same time make it less likely that trading will happen for us all.
I tried to buy shares off you last week and everytime I lowered my offer you went 'yes OK'. You didn't try to haggle for a good price - so you don't even have any shares to sell do you? Evidence please.
Miner, please keep up.
I said that market value is 60% below the current 'Ken' value. If 0.0005 is taking it's time to shift with 200,000 shares, with several million there is no way 0.0005 is market value.
I want a good deal, I keep hoping to get 100 bitcoin at least (An increase on my fiat investment) However sometimes I feel that we are mere hours away from Ken saying "Sorry guys, it's over" and I freak out. That's everything I own, that could be worth 0 if Ken declares the operation is over. And assets? I am 99% sure we have no where near 1000 bitcoin.
Look everyone this is what happens when you invest what you can't afford. Hence why he is desperate to make ends meet. You tried the get rich quick thing and now its hurting you because you put all you had into something. How many times have you read not to invest what you can't afford to lose. That even goes with normal stocks and yet you decided to play with uncontrolled stocks. Your loss my friend. I have roughly the same amount of share as you and I have sat back and watched you destroy this thread constantly with your crying antics. As with most of the people on this thread and their investments. Yes it sucks not being able to trade but honestly if you were in it for the long haul then you would sit back and let things play out. I'm completely fine with what Ken is doing mainly because I've already considered my investment a loss and now if it eventually starts making BTC back then I'll be happy.
Majority of the true investors are the ones who rarely post and unfortunately gets stuck listening to you and the other FUDsters trying to crash the stocks as soon as it hits the exchange so they can buy more shares. I will happily invest more when yall crash the price so much that I can pick up shares for pennies on the dollar and then reap the benefits while you sit back and cry more and complaining about something else. So please do us all a favor and shut up. The shares will get to the exchange when they get there.
February 11, 2014, 09:34:22 AM
I've said this before, sell two thirds of your shares for whatever price gets you financially sorted and hold the other third long and you may still do extremely well from your investment in ActM.
No hard feelings DTS, to say this is an emotional rollercoaster is an understatement.
No hard feelings DTS, to say this is an emotional rollercoaster is an understatement.
There are a number of us sitting on potentially $500k's worth of shares at "new" btc prices - and that is far more money than many people know how to react to emotionally. That is basically the reason there is so much panic and shit in this thread.
But it was never actually worth $500k so relax dudes - relax and be happy, money stressing you out doesn't make you happy weather its having too little money, or too much.
February 11, 2014, 09:04:59 AM
Very well. I do make good coffee though. :p
I hope you have a 'I take Bitcoin tips' badge on.
February 11, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
February 11, 2014, 08:52:02 AM
Fine. I will not sell any share under 0.0008
Great. Now get back to serving them Latte's you punk.
Very well. I do make good coffee though. :p
February 11, 2014, 08:46:07 AM
Fine. I will not sell any share under 0.0008
Great. Now get back to serving them Latte's you punk.
February 11, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
I've said this before, sell two thirds of your shares for whatever price gets you financially sorted and hold the other third long and you may still do extremely well from your investment in ActM.
No hard feelings DTS, to say this is an emotional rollercoaster is an understatement.
No hard feelings DTS, to say this is an emotional rollercoaster is an understatement.
February 11, 2014, 08:39:53 AM
DTS, I have no idea why we are not trading yet and have expressed my disappointment in Ken.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
The perceived value of this fail is zero, zum. The only reason any shares are sold @.0005 is desperate "investors" trying to create an illusion of demand.
The only people claiming otherwise are tragically "invested."
February 11, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
If you do you are a very silly young man.
Agreed.
Classic case of investing what you can't afford to lose... and then self destructing through sheer panic.
Again true.
DTS, I have no idea why we are not trading yet and have expressed my disappointment in Ken.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
Fine. I will not sell any share under 0.0008
Even if it's a sunk cost fallacy.
Yeah I'm stupid. This is not news I've admitted as much on numerous occasions.
February 11, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
DTS, I have no idea why we are not trading yet and have expressed my disappointment in Ken.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
edit: Talk about pump & dump, this is the first recorded case of crash & dump.
Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.
God only knows how long this will now drag out for. Way to go DTS.
edit: Talk about pump & dump, this is the first recorded case of crash & dump.
February 11, 2014, 08:27:36 AM
Classic case of investing what you can't afford to lose... and then self destructing through sheer panic.
February 11, 2014, 08:21:26 AM
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Now ^this^ is a logic fail. Ken doesn't give half a morning crap about how low you sell your shares. Give them away if you wanna -- he got his.
If he has 17k left at 0.0005, and all the shareholders say they are going to sell at 0.0001, then people will be wary of continuing to buy Ken's shares.
Ken then is forced to either lower his price or let us trade and create a free market instead of a controlled one.
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The market is manipulated right now by "investors" who realize that unsold shares @.0005 is the fork announcing "Active Mining is done!"
As soon as if the shares go live, it will be obvious that the true value is a bit lower -- 0. 0000000x to be more precise.
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The market is manipulated right now by "investors" who realize that unsold shares @.0005 is the fork announcing "Active Mining is done!"
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TL;DR: The shares being sold (outside of the few honest but laughably stupid mistakes) are not bought why you think they are.
February 11, 2014, 08:20:13 AM
Ken then is forced to either lower his price or let us trade and create a free market instead of a controlled one.
Either way you are doing your best to get the lowest price possible for your shares? lol
Who is going to buy your shares DTS? Anyone listening to you wouldn't pay empty beer bottles for them. You are saying they are worthless. So who gonna buy them?!?!
Have you really got any? I doubt it. If you do you are a very silly young man.
February 11, 2014, 08:19:28 AM
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I just could not sell $500,000 worth of shares for $10,000, I would rather play the game "$500,000 or nothing" at that point.
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I just could not sell $500,000 worth of shares for $10,000, I would rather play the game "$500,000 or nothing" at that point.
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The sunk cost fallacy.
February 11, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Now ^this^ is a logic fail. Ken doesn't give half a morning crap about how low you sell your shares. Give them away if you wanna -- he got his.
If he has 17k left at 0.0005, and all the shareholders say they are going to sell at 0.0001, then people will be wary of continuing to buy Ken's shares.
Ken then is forced to either lower his price or let us trade and create a free market instead of a controlled one.
February 11, 2014, 08:04:57 AM
Zumzero, explain one thing for me, why is Ken withholding shares?
I also retract my offer, I got no takers at 0.00043 and none at 0.00017
I'd rather not go lower as it becomes pointless and I'd rather just gamble on the value in 6 months.
I just could not sell $500,000 worth of shares for $10,000, I would rather play the game "$500,000 or nothing" at that point.
This bullshit is unfair and I get made out to be the bad guy, when Ken is the one screwing us around.
It's simply, Ken never ever wants us to trade our shares, he wants to hold the shares and dividends until the company is making 20nm or something, we will be waiting years before we can trade. Mark my words, we will never ever trade our shares, it's in Ken's best interest to lock out all the shareholders forever.
I also retract my offer, I got no takers at 0.00043 and none at 0.00017
I'd rather not go lower as it becomes pointless and I'd rather just gamble on the value in 6 months.
I just could not sell $500,000 worth of shares for $10,000, I would rather play the game "$500,000 or nothing" at that point.
This bullshit is unfair and I get made out to be the bad guy, when Ken is the one screwing us around.
It's simply, Ken never ever wants us to trade our shares, he wants to hold the shares and dividends until the company is making 20nm or something, we will be waiting years before we can trade. Mark my words, we will never ever trade our shares, it's in Ken's best interest to lock out all the shareholders forever.
February 11, 2014, 08:03:48 AM
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Maybe if enough shareholders start offering really low prices Ken will be forced to release the blockade because he can no longer sell UKYO's shares for 0.0005.
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Now ^this^ is a logic fail. Ken doesn't give half a morning crap about how low you sell your shares. Give them away if you wanna -- he got his.
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