Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 312. (Read 771288 times)

Thankfully drawingthefud has been outed.   I will now place him on ignore.   

That is the beautiful thing about stupid money, no matter where it comes from it will go to it's rightful place sooner or later.

I am one thing and one thing only, A concerned investor who wants to retire. I have lived a long life and this is my retirement fund.

I would like your cheap shares, and Zum, I have more faith in this company. You want to sell at 0.0025, I believe a price of 0.02 is possible. I might not be the cheerleader you are looking for, but the investor you need.

I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain the following will hold true:

- We will not ship a single miner.
- We will not be given any information to-do with chips.
- We will not have expected hashrate estimates from Ken.
- We will not be trading.
- I will not be able to retire.
- I doubt we even have a prototype.
- I will be depressed and sad.

Well I believe that if we do get chips in the next few days we have a chance at 0.02, if not we have no chance to go above 0.0001

To me it's either one or the other, 0.0001 or 0.02, I can't imagine a middle ground.

You thrive on negativity and are shouting scam even at this stage and you have the audacity to say you believe in this company?

Rubbish!

For anyone left in any doubt that this guy is a fud spreading troll, read his post once again.

I've said it all along and I'll say it again.  He's not drawingthesun, he's drawingthefud. A very clever and stealthy fudster who has a lot of people fooled.

He act's like a concerned shareholder who needs constant reassurance, simply raising doubts most of the time.  But it's at times like this when he shows his true colours that he can't resist going for the coup de grace with comments like, "We are being left in the dark due to bad news or scamming", which is a total contradiction to the sense of meaning you get from his usual prose.


Seller beware, HE WANTS YOUR SHARES!

ITT:  Active Mining casualties, driven to madness by grief, create a fantasy world where their failed investment becomes immensely valuable when if it starts trading again.

Pardon?

A 10x increase is extremely unlikely. The 0.004 on cryptostocks is already much higher than it was on bf, so I expect 0.007 or something when we get onto a stock exchange.

A 10x increase is extremely unlikely. The 0.004 on cryptostocks is already much higher than it was on bf, so I expect 0.007 or something when we get onto a stock exchange.

OK guys, the new exchange could be with us soon so lets get serious now.

I'm sure some of you have heard of a thing called P/E ratio (price-earnings ratio)?

It's a very simple formula universally used for valuing a listed company and it's shares which most often involves you dividing the share price by the annualised earnings per share.

here is a basic introduction:

http://www.allstarstocks.com/gpage2.html


So instead of guessing how much you think share price will go to using your divining rod or a set of Rune stones just use the p/e ratio.

All you need to know is the total amount of BTC that will be paid out in divs to public investors in year 1 and then you divide that by the number of shares to get your annual earnings per share figure. You then choose a share price - lets say the IPO of 0.0025 and divide that by your annual earnings per share figure to get the p/e ratio.

An acceptable p/e ratio to investors in the real world would range from anything from 10:1 to 100:1 - it's going to be based around the company prospects for growth and continued business.

OK so who want's to start? Me? OK-

I think 4justice's table gave a yearly total for public investors (taking into account the drop when Kens shares get divs) of around 40k BTC.

40,000/10,000,000=0.004
0.0025/.004=0.625

So now we need to decide what P/E ratio investors will be happy with. 0.625:1 would put the share price at 0.0025 - obviously. Now if the company has solid prospects and good accounts there is a world of investors out there who would bite your right arm off to get in at a P/E ratio of 0.625:1. It's incredibly good value - so long as the company is solid.

I would say with BTC rising so commendably that a P/E ration of 10:1 would be conservative - so that would mean a share price of 0.04 > 0.04/0.004=10

Anyone please correct my arithmetic/logic and make comments.

PS - I just checked out what the P/E ratio was on AM when it was at 4btc and paying out around 0.025 per week in divs. It was around 3:1. I think if we are a high profile, open company doing big sales and farming we can exceed 3:1 due to greater investor confidence.

PPS - 4justice's table is I think conservative.

What bubble does that pop? I'm confused.

(This is going to 0.04.)

What about january avalon clones priced at 80btc?