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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 315. (Read 771288 times)

legendary
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Lets hope all you fools sell as soon as the shares hit an exchange.
They will get gobbled up and the resistance to .01 will be much less after that
The potential of this company is enormous, anybody who wasn't expecting delays is an idiot (we dont even know if there is any forsure)

Just chill out and gobble gobble! whining changes nothing
sr. member
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Hey folks.  

What is the best way for me to sell my ActiveMining shares?  I did have 1000 in my BitFunder (transferred from  BTC-TC) account (public verification address 1J4JP5pPjTAnEZRAqsP9eBo2UukDZvdUy4, if someone official can confirm that I do own 1000 shares), which I transferred to AMC-TENDER about a month ago.  I always planned to long hold, but things have come up and I quite badly need the money.

Is it even possible to sell, since I have transferred to AMC-TENDER? What would be the going rate per share?


You can't sell at this moment. Hopefully we get good news by the 30th and are listed on a temporary exchange so that you can sell the shares. You could work out a private transaction with a member to trade shares at a later date but that would require a high level of trust between the parties.
sr. member
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For those who just want out and hope to exit with a satisfactory position, here this;

There will be a plethora of investors desperate to get a piece of the action once they all realise that ActM is about to get listed again and is already hashing with its eAsic chip and scaling up production of its Fasthash machines.

I think Ken's announcement will, amongst other things, tell us where and when trading will start again.

There is going to be a rush for securities again and we are set to benefit from this new inflow of wealth.  People who can buy many coins at over $1000 a pop will be those also inclined to invest in a company like ours.

If this announcement doesn't come by the end of the month, I'm sure it'll be just around the corner, but one thing is for sure, Ken will have a check list and he won't be making any announcement until he is absolutely satisfied that he has ticked every thing on that list.  



Thank you Bumzero for your incredible insight.  You have given Ken the perfect excuse to delay an update.  Now investors can continue to worry about their bitcoin during the worst scamming era of human history.  By the way, you have some cum dripping off your chin, looks like Ken got messy again with you, make sure you clean it up before Thanksgiving supper!  

Did you forget about the Catholic Church?
hero member
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Bitcoin for all & all for Bitcoin
Looks like it's been about a week since the last manual mining deposit...?  Wink
newbie
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Hey folks.  

What is the best way for me to sell my ActiveMining shares?  I did have 1000 in my BitFunder (transferred from  BTC-TC) account (public verification address 1J4JP5pPjTAnEZRAqsP9eBo2UukDZvdUy4, if someone official can confirm that I do own 1000 shares), which I transferred to AMC-TENDER about a month ago.  I always planned to long hold, but things have come up and I quite badly need the money.

Is it even possible to sell, since I have transferred to AMC-TENDER? What would be the going rate per share?
legendary
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We must keep reinvestment at least 50% no matter the bitcoin price.

I think reinvestment is the most crucial part here since ActM has the advantage of being able to produce miners at cost. It cant be done the same way by paying out all divs and buying your own mining hardware at endusersales. So reinvesting is the smarter way to more returns.

Saying that... ActM still has much Bitcoins that can be used to reinvest. So im not sure if its really needed to keep back bitcoins. If its needed then we should aggressively reinvest and get way more return this way.

The other thing is to focus on hardware sales. Its good to see that the prices were raised. But 50% only? The bitcoin exchange price is way higher than 50% now. Though of course we are at preorder state. We cant really maximize profits now since too high prices means to presales. Once we have miner at stock this will work way better and i hope Ken will flexibly adjust the prices. Not like KNC that lets themself buy out in short time and everyone knows they could made way more money selling these miners judging from the demand. This shouldnt happen to ActM.

Please, just let me sell my shares.  I don't want this nightmare any longer.  I realized I made a mistake when BTCT and BF shut down.  Now we are just names on a list..

My prediction for the share price if it ever gets listed:  .0001 BTC
even that seems too good to be true
I have no doubt that Ken is mining with at least 50TH/S right now.  This is what I mean by "holding our bitcoins hostage".  I am not going to say what I know from eASIC so I suggest you all do your own homework. 

Wow... its impressive how desperate you are to drop the shareprice. You want to buy in fact right? Otherwise you would make a contract and accept payments to an escrow so that you can move the shares once they are listed at an exchange. If you or the buyer dont go through... they have to bear the trustloss or worse. It should be possible.
But im pretty sure you want cheap shares instead.

By the way... Ken is running the prototype board and divs are coming too... only not yet automatically. There is no sign of 50TH somewhere. Thats something you sucked out of your fingers.

Miner prices increased by 50% (old prices from http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/)

                                    old price / new price
silver unit (1 module) 64GH/s  - 999 / 1499.40
gold unit (1 module) 128GH/s - 1559 / 2339.40
platinum unit (1 module) 256GH/s -2399/3599.40
silver unit (2 module) 384GH/s    -2559/3839.40
gold unit (6 module) 768GH/s -5719/8579.40
platinum unit (6 module) 1536GH/s - 9039   /13559.40
platinum unit (6 module+6 cases) 24576GH/s -148958/223438.20   

If prices increase, it must mean the demand exceeds the offer, right?

No... it only means that Ken finally adjusts the prices because the bitcoin worth was raised several hundred percent. If you could buy a miner for 10BTC some weeks ago you now only need maybe 2BTC though the same miner still is mining the same bitcoins. So the miners become cheaper in fact. A raise for 50% is a good sign but im not sure it thats good enough. Maybe Ken knows more to judge this.
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
Out of respect for those who have ignored crumbs, please do not quote him.  Thanks.
sr. member
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Even an opportunity where someone could increase their Bitcoin holdings by 10-25% per year is extremely attractive in most investment situations. Even if we don't achieve the high hash-rate we want, there are plenty of people who will see holding these shares as a beneficial investment.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
For those who just want out and hope to exit with a satisfactory position, here this;

There will be a plethora of investors desperate to get a piece of the action once they all realise that ActM is about to get listed again and is already hashing with its eAsic chip and scaling up production of its Fasthash machines.

I think Ken's announcement will, amongst other things, tell us where and when trading will start again.

There is going to be a rush for securities again and we are set to benefit from this new inflow of wealth.  People who can buy many coins at over $1000 a pop will be those also inclined to invest in a company like ours.

If this announcement doesn't come by the end of the month, I'm sure it'll be just around the corner, but one thing is for sure, Ken will have a check list and he won't be making any announcement until he is absolutely satisfied that he has ticked every thing on that list.  



Thank you Bumzero for your incredible insight.  You have given Ken the perfect excuse to delay an update.  Now investors can continue to worry about their bitcoin during the worst scamming era of human history.  By the way, you have some cum dripping off your chin, looks like Ken got messy again with you, make sure you clean it up before Thanksgiving supper!  
legendary
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Agreed, bitcoins will flow to where the opportunity is. Look at the volume of BTC pouring into litecoin in the last week, probably in the millions. Just need a good trading platform and some buzz. 
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
For those who just want out and hope to exit with a satisfactory position, hear this;

There will be a plethora of investors desperate to get a piece of the action once they all realise that ActM is about to get listed again and is already hashing with its eAsic chip and scaling up production of its Fasthash machines.

I think Ken's announcement will, amongst other things, tell us where and when trading will start again.

There is going to be a rush for securities again and we are set to benefit from this new inflow of wealth.  People who can buy many coins at over $1000 a pop will be those also inclined to invest in a company like ours.

If this announcement doesn't come by the end of the month, I'm sure it'll be just around the corner, but one thing is for sure, Ken will have a check list and he won't be making any announcement until he is absolutely satisfied that he has ticked every thing on that list.  

sr. member
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EDIT!:
Do you really think the shares will never hit 0.0088? That is only 21% higher than the ATH. If you don't think we can pass the ATH when we are mining in full may I ask you; why are you still invested? You don't have high hopes for ActiveMining.

Show me one BTC stock that has reached or surpassed its ATH lately. AM is down 90% from its ATH, VTX 80%. Times are bad for securities denominated in a currency that goes into full deflationary tailspin, this was not clear to me when I bought some shares of ActM, AM, Labcoin and others. In the mean time I have learned that BTC is the fiercest competition to shares. I always considered the $300 I gambled on bitcoin-stocks a high-risk game - after all, if one of several stocks explodes, it might pay for the scams and failures of the others. If none pays back the coins I put into them, some might at least pay back the $300. And if none does, it was an interesting time.

I do believe that FC and Ken are sincere, honest and hard-working. If this is enough to corner a market with high-tech that usually is developed by a whole team of engineers, sales people and managers, I don't know. Building 28nm ASICs from ground is no child's play, I expect delays and problems along the way. Unfortunately time and the exploding diff are our enemy, so we might arrive at mining rigs that work but are outdated.

At any rate, I can see no proof that we have working miners shipping to customers or orders placed at eASIC and I would not be surprised to learn that November turns into new year. We'll see.
Of course, ActM ATH share price never reflected actual mining proceeds. So, the comparison you are making is in error.

Also, if ActM is successful, Ken may start hiring a small team of engineers, etc. At the moment that may not be necessary.
member
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EDIT!:
Do you really think the shares will never hit 0.0088? That is only 21% higher than the ATH. If you don't think we can pass the ATH when we are mining in full may I ask you; why are you still invested? You don't have high hopes for ActiveMining.

Show me one BTC stock that has reached or surpassed its ATH lately. AM is down 90% from its ATH, VTX 80%. Times are bad for securities denominated in a currency that goes into full deflationary tailspin, this was not clear to me when I bought some shares of ActM, AM, Labcoin and others. In the mean time I have learned that BTC is the fiercest competition to shares. I always considered the $300 I gambled on bitcoin-stocks a high-risk game - after all, if one of several stocks explodes, it might pay for the scams and failures of the others. If none pays back the coins I put into them, some might at least pay back the $300. And if none does, it was an interesting time.

I do believe that FC and Ken are sincere, honest and hard-working. If this is enough to corner a market with high-tech that usually is developed by a whole team of engineers, sales people and managers, I don't know. Building 28nm ASICs from ground is no child's play, I expect delays and problems along the way. Unfortunately time and the exploding diff are our enemy, so we might arrive at mining rigs that work but are outdated.

At any rate, I can see no proof that we have working miners shipping to customers or orders placed at eASIC and I would not be surprised to learn that November turns into new year. We'll see.
legendary
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Though you both think you are geniuses.

Not sure where you get that idea.

I might go on a bit, I do have strong opinions about the best course of action and I could very well be wrong. But I honestly do mean well.

Admittedly I'm not taking the decline of this security very well.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Miner prices increased by 50% (old prices from http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/)

                                    old price / new price
silver unit (1 module) 64GH/s  - 999 / 1499.40
gold unit (1 module) 128GH/s - 1559 / 2339.40
platinum unit (1 module) 256GH/s -2399/3599.40
silver unit (2 module) 384GH/s    -2559/3839.40
gold unit (6 module) 768GH/s -5719/8579.40
platinum unit (6 module) 1536GH/s - 9039   /13559.40
platinum unit (6 module+6 cases) 24576GH/s -148958/223438.20   

If prices increase, it must mean the demand exceeds the offer, right?

yes, as the price of btc increases the demand for miners will increase. if there is an increased demand for miners the supply will get tighter, thus driving up the price.

this is a very bullish sign for us all on so many levels. Smiley
hero member
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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
I'm thankful for the constant flow of cheerleaders white knighting giving us many laughs,

the trolls sending them into a frenzy more easily than ever,

and the majority of level-headed "mightier" investors getting some quick laughs in at both parties expense.

Which one am I?

Depends on the day LOL
sr. member
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Neither of you bring anything productive to this thread. Though you both think you are geniuses.
legendary
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I'm thankful for the constant flow of cheerleaders white knighting giving us many laughs,

the trolls sending them into a frenzy more easily than ever,

and the majority of level-headed "mightier" investors getting some quick laughs in at both parties expense.

Which one am I?
hero member
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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
I see the slow decent into "no news" madness continues unabated.

Gobble gobble!


Hah, correct you are.

What are you thankful for this Thanksgiving?

I'm thankful for the constant flow of cheerleaders white knighting giving us many laughs,

the trolls sending them into a frenzy more easily than ever,

and the majority of level-headed "mightier" investors getting some quick laughs in at both parties expense.

All is right with the world.
sr. member
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We are discussing scenarios knybe. You don't do anyone a service by coming on and slagging everyone down and pretending you are mightier than the rest of us.

But thanks for the input.
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