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hero member
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May 26, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
#12
Non-intrusive would be the way to go for theymos and advertisers.
https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9281#p55156

I knew this from the beginning of ghostery. I would not touch ghostery with a ten foot poll.

Please research before you use ghostery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostery#History_and_use
hero member
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May 26, 2013, 06:28:41 PM
#11
I recommend using http://www.ghostery.com/ instead of adblock anyway.

You're confusing AdBlock with AdBlock Plus. AdBlock hasn't and isn't blocking the forum ads.

I am not. I was referring to a category of products writing “adblock” in lowercase. I recommend Ghostery over AdBlock and over AdBlock Plus and over any other adblock (that is over any software focused on blocking ads that are visible).

It blocks most of shitty 3rd party spying codes - that includes most ads but also Facebook, Twitter, Google and lot of other tracking codes from even more evil companies.

AdBlock does this as well if you add the following filter list:

Code:
http://monzta.maltekraus.de/adblock_social.txt

Blocking all the social network spam that appears on some pages is the only reason I ever installed it.

Social stuff is just one category of shitty spies. Ghostery blocks also ~300 different beacons (codes that are “quiet”, that is they don't display anything and their sole purpose is to track users: these are conversion pixels, audience segmentation pixels, etc), plus ~260 different analytics codes, etc. It also blocks ~200 social widgets (which seems to be much more than this short AdBlock social list) and ~700 advertising providers.

I don't claim that adblocks don't have their lists covering these categories. I just think that adblocks are more effective for things that are visible and Ghostery is more effective for things that are tracking you, regardless of their visual effects (or lack of them). I prefer “doesn't matter if it shines or whistles, if it's a 3rd party that is tracking anything, we block them” philosophy over “if it displays something like ads, we block it” because the former fits more into my privacy needs and I suspect the latter is focused more on things that are visible and doesn't block all these invisible data gathering trackers.

Ads like these on bitcointalk.org totally don't bother me at all, as opposed to all companies in the business of gathering, processing and selling as much data on people as they can.
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
#10
Do the advertisers pay premium for the anti-ABP code?
Actually, ABP charges money to unblock ads. You have to be considered non intrusive AND pay em.

Jeeez, I'm removing that crap from my browser then
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
May 26, 2013, 06:05:37 PM
#9
I would just logout everyone who was detected using adblock.

I recommend using http://www.ghostery.com/ instead of adblock anyway.

You're confusing AdBlock with AdBlock Plus. AdBlock hasn't and isn't blocking the forum ads.

It blocks most of shitty 3rd party spying codes - that includes most ads but also Facebook, Twitter, Google and lot of other tracking codes from even more evil companies.

AdBlock does this as well if you add the following filter list:

Code:
http://monzta.maltekraus.de/adblock_social.txt

Blocking all the social network spam that appears on some pages is the only reason I ever installed it.
hero member
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Merit: 522
May 26, 2013, 05:54:01 PM
#8
If you don't want posts censored, you need to disable ABP (or just these filters) on bitcointalk.org.

I recommend using http://www.ghostery.com/ instead of adblock anyway. It blocks most of shitty 3rd party spying codes - that includes most ads but also Facebook, Twitter, Google and lot of other tracking codes from even more evil companies. It blocks most ads that adblock blocks, but is much, much better for your privacy. It also doesn't block any in-house ads like these on bitcointalk.org.

As for the ABP issue, I second the opinion that it is a side effect of anti-ABP code. I would remove this code and let ABP do their job the easy way. I also like the idea to logout everyone who was detected using adblock. That should keep number of lost ad displays reasonably low (limited to visitors using ABP and not logged in; and huge forums are hard to use without logging in).
vip
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May 26, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
#7
Do the advertisers pay premium for the anti-ABP code?
Actually, ABP charges money to unblock ads. You have to be considered non intrusive AND pay em.
legendary
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Merit: 1018
May 26, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
#6
Do the advertisers pay premium for the anti-ABP code?
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 05:10:03 PM
#5
There's nothing I can change in the forum's HTML to stop this. This isn't a side-effect of my anti-ABP code.
Yes, it is. You're the one who started the arms race with EasyList. If you removed your anti-ABP code, easylist maintainers wouldn't have to go through such extreme measures. This whole arms race is retarded, and you're turning it into a game of "why are you hitting yourself".

I would just logout everyone who was detected using adblock.
Try to use the forum while logged out if you prefer to keep ABP on Grin

Yes lets censor everyone, I think theymos should let the ABP block the ads, and just let it be. Theymos is sitting on a lot of money for the forum I don't see the problem. Plus who cares if butterfly labs or ripples is a scam which both are not. So he lets false ads, why can't we have the power to block those?
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 11:38:22 AM
#3
There's nothing I can change in the forum's HTML to stop this. This isn't a side-effect of my anti-ABP code.
Yes, it is. You're the one who started the arms race with EasyList. If you removed your anti-ABP code, easylist maintainers wouldn't have to go through such extreme measures. This whole arms race is retarded, and you're turning it into a game of "why are you hitting yourself".

I would just logout everyone who was detected using adblock.
Try to use the forum while logged out if you prefer to keep ABP on Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1452
May 26, 2013, 11:33:58 AM
#2
There's nothing I can change in the forum's HTML to stop this. This isn't a side-effect of my anti-ABP code.
Yes, it is. You're the one who started the arms race with EasyList. If you removed your anti-ABP code, easylist maintainers wouldn't have to go through such extreme measures. This whole arms race is retarded, and you're turning it into a game of "why are you hitting yourself".
administrator
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Merit: 13032
May 26, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
#1
The Adblock Plus EasyList maintainers couldn't block the forum's ads, so they just blocked the links in the ads everywhere on the forum. So that's why you might see posts censored like this:

What website are you looking at? Clicking through the ad goes to http://butterflylabs.com/products?s1 and lets you checkout without ever mentioning the pre-order status. That's no giant "PRE-ORDER NOW" button. That's a giant ORDER NOW button.

Thanks for great feedback! In Finland we use decimal comma. OP edited.

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There's nothing I can change in the forum's HTML to stop this. This isn't a side-effect of my anti-ABP code. If you don't want posts censored, you need to disable ABP (or just these filters) on bitcointalk.org. You can complain about it here.
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