We moved in the italian section for discussing about this question, this is the link of the thread :
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proposta-moderatore-addizionale-sezione-italiana-980756
Thanks for the attention.
Topic: Additional moderator required in the italian board - page 2. (Read 3177 times)
I don't think we need a new moderator. If HostFat need help he will intercede directly with Theymos without this useless thread.
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We don't need a new moderator, especially if HostFat doesn't think he needs help.
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Even though i'd like to be a moderator
Why do you want to become a moderator and why should we choose you?
I'm just asking (no controversy).
Thank you
I don't think we need a new moderator. If HostFat need help he will intercede directly with Theymos without this useless thread.
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I find the Italian board fairly ok.
In my humble opinion, unless Hostfat is overwhelmed by work, there's no need for another moderator.
However, I don't get why this is a matter to be discussed in English on the international board.
Since, as we know, Italians struggle with English I don't think it's fair to discuss this topic in a foreign language.
To me it seems pretty limiting for who doesn't speak a word of English.
p.s. for the Italians: please don't write I'm agree it sounds so bad and it doesn't mean anything in English. You simply say I agree.
In my humble opinion, unless Hostfat is overwhelmed by work, there's no need for another moderator.
However, I don't get why this is a matter to be discussed in English on the international board.
Since, as we know, Italians struggle with English I don't think it's fair to discuss this topic in a foreign language.
To me it seems pretty limiting for who doesn't speak a word of English.
p.s. for the Italians: please don't write I'm agree it sounds so bad and it doesn't mean anything in English. You simply say I agree.
I'm happy with the current state of things.
So far Hostfat has guaranteed a no-intervention policy that suits me just fine.
Anyway, why are we having this discussion here and not in the Italian subsection?
So far Hostfat has guaranteed a no-intervention policy that suits me just fine.
Anyway, why are we having this discussion here and not in the Italian subsection?
Again, you are missing the point.
I'm not arguing about your moderation, and i personally think that you're replying feeling attacked for no reason, since in the OP i've written
My concern is not about your report management. Reports are well managed, but in my opinion (and not only for me) they are used too seldom by the majority of italian users. So the point is about having an extra mod that can better and more easily patrol the italian board, especially its subsections.
I hope that this is enough to prevent other copy/paste replies.
I'm not arguing about your moderation, and i personally think that you're replying feeling attacked for no reason, since in the OP i've written
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Hostfat, the current moderator, is doing a good job in the reports management,
My concern is not about your report management. Reports are well managed, but in my opinion (and not only for me) they are used too seldom by the majority of italian users. So the point is about having an extra mod that can better and more easily patrol the italian board, especially its subsections.
I hope that this is enough to prevent other copy/paste replies.
And what's the matter? I mean, if someone with the opposite opinion would have wanted to express himself, he could have done it now here. The public chat is composed of 170 users, and most of them for inactivity or other reasons aren't even interested about the usability of the italian board.
So "all the interested italian members are aware of this thread." are not so many 
I said it because at your first sentence it could be seen as "the italian community" was at this opinion.
I repeat again, another mod (that I don't feel needed now) NOT chosen by me will be the worst and not the better.
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and repeated uncostructive posts.
I'm sure that someone don't like my way of leaving some people free to express their "stupidity", but I still think that it's better if it isn't completely useless spam 
kinda funny that all this discussion is started because I asked to not spam about Ethereum on one of my discussion on the italian project sub-section 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10653568
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10653568
We are missing the point
First of all
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Although i think that Hostfat, the current moderator, is doing a good job in the reports management, i also personally think that we need an extra moderator, for two main reasons:
Second, and the main reason of why in my opinion it's needed an extra mod (also that originally stated in the OP)
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1) The report function in my experience is not used so much by italian users, requiring that someone (hopefully more than one person) sort manually and constantly the threads deleting obvius spam and repeated uncostructive posts. And this is surely a tedius job for one mod, that maybe isn't interested in all of the local board contents, so it's accustomed to patrol less some subsections.
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Just to be more precise, this doesn't mean that everyone were thinking that it was a good idea Wink (I think the opposite, but sure I'm biased Grin)
And what's the matter? I mean, if someone with the opposite opinion would have wanted to express himself, he could have done it now here. The public chat is composed of 170 users, and most of them for inactivity or other reasons aren't even interested about the usability of the italian board.
i don't know, if Hostfat can keep everything clean, 1 mod could be enough, otherwise another one is necessary, but sometime the italian section isn't that populated to justify it
There is also the Português (Portuguese) section that has 2 moderators but only | 33154 Posts 3392 Topics | I think we need a second moderator that can check the section and help HostFat.
Of course. I think that another moderator in the italian section is required (considering that the italian section is one of the most populated section of this forum). It would be a great help for our actual moderator HostFat
There is also the Português (Portuguese) section that has 2 moderators but only | 33154 Posts 3392 Topics | I think we need a second moderator that can check the section and help HostFat.
Just my opinion
From all the reports that I receive, and I consider many of them too much "aggressive" (I'm not sure about the right word)
If I'll take an action for all of them, maybe the italian section could become the "reign of terror", where user will start on censoring themselves, and maybe someone will totally give up on writing.
There are also some biased "votes" on this discussion
So I think that adding another mod isn't a good idea, actually.
(I think the opposite, but sure I'm biased 
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There are other people that I feel better to become mod (from their reports and imho their way of participate in matters) that I think that are even better then some mentioned on this discussion.
Anyway, I still think that I don't need other help actually for the report that I receive.
Maybe I'll add something (edit) so that the "Report to moderator" is more "notable". Many italians still don't know english, so maybe some of them even don't know the meaning of it
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And it's kinda funny that all this discussion is started because I asked to not spam about Ethereum on one of my discussion on the italian project sub-section
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10653568
From all the reports that I receive, and I consider many of them too much "aggressive" (I'm not sure about the right word)
If I'll take an action for all of them, maybe the italian section could become the "reign of terror", where user will start on censoring themselves, and maybe someone will totally give up on writing.
There are also some biased "votes" on this discussion
So I think that adding another mod isn't a good idea, actually.
Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.
Just to be more precise, this doesn't mean that everyone were thinking that it was a good idea (I think the opposite, but sure I'm biased )There are other people that I feel better to become mod (from their reports and imho their way of participate in matters) that I think that are even better then some mentioned on this discussion.
Anyway, I still think that I don't need other help actually for the report that I receive.
Maybe I'll add something (edit) so that the "Report to moderator" is more "notable". Many italians still don't know english, so maybe some of them even don't know the meaning of it
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And it's kinda funny that all this discussion is started because I asked to not spam about Ethereum on one of my discussion on the italian project sub-section
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10653568
I think it may be allowed or ok in this instance given the subject matter, though maybe this thread is better off being moved to the Italian section instead.
bitcoinplaza is just joking, but for the italian section i've already written this, that should clarify why I've directly posted this thread in meta section:
Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.
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io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !
Forum rules
9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.I think it may be allowed or ok in this instance given the subject matter, though maybe this thread is better off being moved to the Italian section instead.
io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !
Forum rules
9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !
@alexrossi: Would be good if you create a thread there(if you haven't). Any others are welcome too if you need to make this little faster
Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.
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Like theymos mentioned, poll isn't a good idea. People should make their vote by posting in the thread in that local board, here it is 'Italian'.
@alexrossi: Would be good if you create a thread there(if you haven't). Any others are welcome too if you need to make this little faster
-MZ
@alexrossi: Would be good if you create a thread there(if you haven't). Any others are welcome too if you need to make this little faster
-MZ
relevant:
He\they will lose if half or more of the users do not want to have any moderator; if it is profitable to have a section without moderator:You should create a topic in the Russian section to discuss whether a new moderator is necessary and, if so, who the new moderator should be. (Do not take a vote, though.) If there is consensus that one or more specific people should be made moderators, then I will (almost always) do it.
You can participate in the signatures campaign and write in Russian boards somewhere "need to write thirtieth message - write" or comment on the same thing the same way every week
Or they place referral links
Or someone have multiple accounts for gambling.
Poll in russian board showed 22 to 25 (here). 25 votes for LZ, that can be regarded as the absence of moderator. LZ last Active: February 17
Only who moderated russian board is you grue, but only in the most obvious cases. That it's better than nothing, spammers in panic.
By the way, redsn0w has a very good reputation on this forum, so I am vote for him (if i can) to make an additional moderator for Italian board.
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