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February 06, 2023, 01:51:15 PM
The first advantage that comes to my mind is tax avoidance through bitcoin transaction. But this is necessary mostly if you do freelance jobs, side jobs or trade random stuff.

For example I can trade my old or unused clothes on facebook market. We have such stupid system, that if through your bank account trading deals exceed specific amount, the government force you to register as individual entrepreneur and pax taxes, as "you get profit from your deal". Sounds absurd. I have already paid VAT when purchased that item, and sell it used below market price.

Or you can craft something. For example you are good at knitting and create merino wool scarfs. Earnings increases specific amount - you are very welcomed at tax center. Digging holes on weekends - ok. Doing it on regular basis at free time for your neighbors, but get paid regularly - share part of your income with government.

Or you are small company. To be able to survive and compete with huge chains and brand, you set price low as possible, just few percent above net cost. Share with government and go bankrupt slowly.

Imho bitcoin usage suits perfectly if you see yourself among my examples above.

Paying taxes is the duty of every citizen, and that is how we contribute to the prosperity and development of the country. I don't think the purpose bitcoin was created for us to use it to evade taxes. You don't want to pay taxes to the government, but when you encounter theft, dispute, or scams while investing, you want the government to take care of it for you. Is that called being too greedy? When you just want the government to do everything for you without spending anything for them.

Both of you guys certainly got a point and I bet neither one of you are willing to compensate or take a loss between this argument. What @Erumo is trying to say that sometimes these taxes are getting so hefty these days even if you're just selling your used things below the average market price but still, the government wants to tax you for that because you're gaining profit over it. But let's go back to the topic because bitcoin is not created to evade taxes or something like that.
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February 06, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
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but be sure that you are aware of the risk when it comes to volatility and regulation which had always been the main issue for those people who do hate up BTC.
They would be keeping on elaborating it for it just to look bad. lol

Well, I suppose that people have a right to choose: if they already know that there is a decentralized alternative which returnes you a control over your own money, but anyway prefer old fiat system with a trust to a third party, then it is their choice and I respect that. Bitcoin is an alternative but not a must, and if some prefer to hate bitcoin... I can't support their choise, but it's still their choice.

And I think that's why even when mostly every business will accept bitcoin some people will still prefer fiat. Some prefer to trust a control over their money to a third party.
A business would accept bitcoin without the need to ask the payer for identification would be ideal, but I know that ideal things in the real world do not exist, and that everything is recorded, I don't mind if a camera records me, but if I make a transaction with bitcoin I would like it to be in total privacy without compromising anything that should be my person, and that should be taken as one of the things that they should have to protect us, everything is for the option and development of the good management that bitcoin has and one of those is to protect the client, they should have that as one of the greatest conditions of consumer protection.



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February 05, 2023, 01:22:06 PM
One of the topics I read today on this forum is titled act local think global. In my estimation any merchant who accepts Bitcoin as a payment option in their business is acting local and thinking global. That singular act alone would spark a curiosity of what bitcoin is among those who do not know and that in itself creates awareness. And what does this translate to, clients who once they understand the concept of Bitcoin may choose to invest in it and may start to pay for the services rendered or goods purchased in Bitcoin. Who knows, they might just bring their friends along to patronize you. At this time the merchant would have added a new client. Which is good for the business .
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February 05, 2023, 10:07:17 AM
We all know that El Salvador as the first positive country for Bitcoin where Bitcoin use as legal tender. Given some preconceived notions, we can say that Nigeria could be another country where Bitcoin legalization will be planned. ‍At present times Niger's government is still hostile to it. But most people in that country are now very optimistic about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. They want crypto to be legal in the future. If people are united in this issue then it will be adopted in that country. Nigeria is going to become the 2nd country for Bitcoin adaption in the coming days where Bitcoin is now used almost exclusively as a medium of exchange. Now people are waiting to get the green signal from the government.
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February 05, 2023, 09:51:16 AM
The first advantage that comes to my mind is tax avoidance through bitcoin transaction. But this is necessary mostly if you do freelance jobs, side jobs or trade random stuff.

For example I can trade my old or unused clothes on facebook market. We have such stupid system, that if through your bank account trading deals exceed specific amount, the government force you to register as individual entrepreneur and pax taxes, as "you get profit from your deal". Sounds absurd. I have already paid VAT when purchased that item, and sell it used below market price.

Or you can craft something. For example you are good at knitting and create merino wool scarfs. Earnings increases specific amount - you are very welcomed at tax center. Digging holes on weekends - ok. Doing it on regular basis at free time for your neighbors, but get paid regularly - share part of your income with government.

Or you are small company. To be able to survive and compete with huge chains and brand, you set price low as possible, just few percent above net cost. Share with government and go bankrupt slowly.

Imho bitcoin usage suits perfectly if you see yourself among my examples above.

Paying taxes is the duty of every citizen, and that is how we contribute to the prosperity and development of the country. I don't think the purpose bitcoin was created for us to use it to evade taxes. You don't want to pay taxes to the government, but when you encounter theft, dispute, or scams while investing, you want the government to take care of it for you. Is that called being too greedy? When you just want the government to do everything for you without spending anything for them.
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February 05, 2023, 09:30:02 AM
That's right, of course, when integrating bitcoin into a payment system or alternative payment in business, it requires bitcoin circulation to run smoothly and effectively. Yes, it still applies in my country where you can't use any means of payment and it's strictly prohibited to use other means of payment. It really makes me unable to make transactions with bitcoin freely in my business unless I do it secretly without anyone knowing but maybe it has the potential for me to be charged with a violation and arrested by the nearest apparatus.

What about making business in some other jurisdiction until your country will become more bitcoin friendly? Well, it is not an advice, it is just thinking out loud. Probably if we want to have more contact with crypto in business we can try to make business abroad. May be some have such an experience and can share it with others? And then when you'll have enough experience in using crypto in business you'll can be among the pioneers of it in your country when it'll open for crypto. Sounds attractive, but I have no exact clues. Grin
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February 05, 2023, 09:03:15 AM
Businesses have the advantage of accepting bitcoins but this requires the circulation of bitcoins. Also able to trade but there are many countries around the world where bitcoin is not legally recognized which may result in compensation. It wasn't before but as more people learn to use BTC, it could be a better payment method you don't have to be a technical person. Anyone can do it if the transaction system is more simple it will improve for the business.

That's right, of course, when integrating bitcoin into a payment system or alternative payment in business, it requires bitcoin circulation to run smoothly and effectively. Yes, it still applies in my country where you can't use any means of payment and it's strictly prohibited to use other means of payment. It really makes me unable to make transactions with bitcoin freely in my business unless I do it secretly without anyone knowing but maybe it has the potential for me to be charged with a violation and arrested by the nearest apparatus.
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February 04, 2023, 06:37:08 AM
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but be sure that you are aware of the risk when it comes to volatility and regulation which had always been the main issue for those people who do hate up BTC.
They would be keeping on elaborating it for it just to look bad. lol

Well, I suppose that people have a right to choose: if they already know that there is a decentralized alternative which returnes you a control over your own money, but anyway prefer old fiat system with a trust to a third party, then it is their choice and I respect that. Bitcoin is an alternative but not a must, and if some prefer to hate bitcoin... I can't support their choise, but it's still their choice.

And I think that's why even when mostly every business will accept bitcoin some people will still prefer fiat. Some prefer to trust a control over their money to a third party.
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February 02, 2023, 06:54:25 PM
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You can't be scam when you want to do transactions through bitcoin unless you fumble and it will promote your business, people will like your business base on you use bitcoin

Not sure what you're trying to say, might be a rough translation issue. But the way it's worded, it's definitely not right. Sadly, the reality is that Bitcoin, as a form of payment, can be used for scams by both parties - the scammers and their victims. In this context, the only difference from other online payment methods is that Bitcoin transactions are irreversible, making it a better option for sellers compared to buyers.

Irreversible, decentralized and anonymous on some aspects which it would really be that preferred and do look interesting into those people who are really that mindful when it comes to their privacy.

One of the features and capabilities on why it had been supported that much just because of these qualities or features.If you are ones who do consider on integrating it into your business then its up to you

but be sure that you are aware of the risk when it comes to volatility and regulation which had always been the main issue for those people who do hate up BTC.
They would be keeping on elaborating it for it just to look bad. lol
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February 02, 2023, 06:13:05 PM
#98
Bitcoin as many advantages when it come to business.
Where you'll make your transaction without any stress or thirds party..
You can't be scam when you want to do transactions through bitcoin unless you fumble and it will promote your business, people will like your business base on you use bitcoin
It would look really cool and the people who love the business are also people who already know Bitcoin in depth. Because for those who don't know how cool a business that uses Bitcoin is, maybe they will see the business as an ordinary business.

After all, by already using Bitcoin in a business, it doesn't mean that the business owner has to forget fiat for the old model of payment options. Because if the business owner wants more progress in his business, it means he must be able to provide better and easier service for every customer who comes to him.
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January 31, 2023, 08:56:43 AM
#97
You can't be scam when you want to do transactions through bitcoin unless you fumble and it will promote your business, people will like your business base on you use bitcoin

Not sure what you're trying to say, might be a rough translation issue. But the way it's worded, it's definitely not right. Sadly, the reality is that Bitcoin, as a form of payment, can be used for scams by both parties - the scammers and their victims. In this context, the only difference from other online payment methods is that Bitcoin transactions are irreversible, making it a better option for sellers compared to buyers.
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January 31, 2023, 01:58:12 AM
#96
Bitcoin as many advantages when it come to business.
Where you'll make your transaction without any stress or thirds party..
You can't be scam when you want to do transactions through bitcoin unless you fumble and it will promote your business, people will like your business base on you use bitcoin
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January 31, 2023, 08:29:56 AM
#96
It is music to my ears every time I read about businesses big or small or medium accepting bitcoin or even cryptocurrencies in general. Here in this forum, most of the time it is the Nigerians showing their bitcoin adoptions. More power to you guys and keep it coming. Maybe Nigeria is the next country to legalize the use of bitcoin as a legal tender. 

Sadly in my country, we cannot accept bitcoin without a permit from our business bureau which is a very long process. But I am not losing hope that one day I will travel around my country to see stores that accept bitcoin.   
Nigeria being the next country to legalize the use of Bitcoin as a legal tender will actually be a long way still. Political Campaigns are actually ongoing and none of the candidates has even spoken to anything remotely close to that. All the news you would see coming from the country is personal acceptance, people that have come to understand Bitcoin and wishes to accept it in their Business. Hopefully, someday there might be a government that will reverse the ban by Financial institutes like Banks from Bitcoin transactions.
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January 29, 2023, 05:27:10 PM
#95
You can also use Smart chain for Bitcoin transaction because the fee is very low.
Nah, that's not really a bitcoin but just another altcoin that's built on their smart contract. I wouldn't be interested in using that.
Altcoins were developed over smart contract. Most of the places have bitcoin acceptance, in some places they've started to accept altcoins too. When we talk of bitcoin and cryptocurrency acceptance into business, it is step taken considering the future, because in few years time almost majority of the population will come to know about cryptocurrencies. What we do might profit us by then.
Yes, many folks today accepts altcoins too but I don't think that I'll have that type of bitcoin because I've seen those things with "wrapped" on its name and there's a chance that it may be inconsistent with its pricing and may de-pegged.
I've seen it with a few before and it's not just with stable coins but also those altcoins that are said to be wrapped in bitcoin or pegged with their value on bitcoin. I wouldn't just want to have my money on it for that reason and yeah, it's not the actual thing that I own if I choose to have it. But maybe for transfers, I wouldn't still but if you think that it's good enough for you guys, that's fine.
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January 29, 2023, 04:39:24 PM
#94
You can also use Smart chain for Bitcoin transaction because the fee is very low.
Nah, that's not really a bitcoin but just another altcoin that's built on their smart contract. I wouldn't be interested in using that.
Altcoins were developed over smart contract. Most of the places have bitcoin acceptance, in some places they've started to accept altcoins too. When we talk of bitcoin and cryptocurrency acceptance into business, it is step taken considering the future, because in few years time almost majority of the population will come to know about cryptocurrencies. What we do might profit us by then.
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January 29, 2023, 04:31:03 PM
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For example, so people may accept bitcoin to show support for the technology or to do transacting business with people overseas easy or maybe because of the zero-transaction fee.
I think transaction costs are not zero but they are cheaper and faster than using fiat currency, especially when making transactions using inter-banks both domestically and abroad.
Before I've seen times where it's most likely zero transaction fee but now, it's no longer zero fees. But yes, the fees are not that expensive and they're cheaper today.
And there was a point of time during the 2017 ATH wherein the fees were too excruciating for the majority because if you won't pay for the higher fee, you'll get stuck for so long.

When the price of btc increases, its fee also increases and that is if we use it's blockchain. There's something what we called lightning network where it use as the solution for the high fee problem and it also solve the scalability problem.
We have to use bitcoin's blockchain automatically if we're going to use, there's no other network on it unlike the altcoins that we have now. They've got massive support for other chains like you can have it on erc20, bsc and the others.

You can also use Smart chain for Bitcoin transaction because the fee is very low.
Nah, that's not really a bitcoin but just another altcoin that's built on their smart contract. I wouldn't be interested in using that.
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January 28, 2023, 10:44:11 PM
#92
For example, so people may accept bitcoin to show support for the technology or to do transacting business with people overseas easy or maybe because of the zero-transaction fee.
I think transaction costs are not zero but they are cheaper and faster than using fiat currency, especially when making transactions using inter-banks both domestically and abroad.
Before I've seen times where it's most likely zero transaction fee but now, it's no longer zero fees. But yes, the fees are not that expensive and they're cheaper today.
And there was a point of time during the 2017 ATH wherein the fees were too excruciating for the majority because if you won't pay for the higher fee, you'll get stuck for so long.
Agreed, the transaction fee have got connection with the increase in the price of bitcoin. Over time the transaction fee have decreased and it have become common payment gateway. People felt the difference of transaction cost between the traditional ones and the bitcoin transaction. With bitcoin transaction people experienced the good of sending without limits whereas with banking it requires more process to be fulfilled.

It takes time for people to get used to bitcoin payment. For now limited locations have got bitcoin acceptance amidst the legality of the country. Slowly looking upon different stores and services offered for bitcoin acceptance we can experience all levels of people using bitcoin with ease.
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January 27, 2023, 05:27:42 PM
#91
For example, so people may accept bitcoin to show support for the technology or to do transacting business with people overseas easy or maybe because of the zero-transaction fee.
I think transaction costs are not zero but they are cheaper and faster than using fiat currency, especially when making transactions using inter-banks both domestically and abroad.
Before I've seen times where it's most likely zero transaction fee but now, it's no longer zero fees. But yes, the fees are not that expensive and they're cheaper today.
And there was a point of time during the 2017 ATH wherein the fees were too excruciating for the majority because if you won't pay for the higher fee, you'll get stuck for so long.

When the price of btc increases, its fee also increases and that is if we use it's blockchain. There's something what we called lightning network where it use as the solution for the high fee problem and it also solve the scalability problem. You can also use Smart chain for Bitcoin transaction because the fee is very low.
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January 27, 2023, 04:29:21 PM
#90
I have to say that bitcoin and business is a bit of a difficult place based on the business and not the payment method. There are some business models where it makes sense to use crypto because it allows you to get a lot more customers. For example in the gambling world, we had online gambling before crypto was invented, so we know there are companies that accept bitcoin payment.

However, we also know that crypto improved that world and biggest online casinos in the world are accepting crypto and that's a good thing. I mean we are dealing with something that is very very important and I believe that we shouldn't be doing it for business' that are outside of this scope, like a car mechanic accepting bitcoin won't change much.
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January 27, 2023, 11:00:59 AM
#89
For example, so people may accept bitcoin to show support for the technology or to do transacting business with people overseas easy or maybe because of the zero-transaction fee.
I think transaction costs are not zero but they are cheaper and faster than using fiat currency, especially when making transactions using inter-banks both domestically and abroad.
Before I've seen times where it's most likely zero transaction fee but now, it's no longer zero fees. But yes, the fees are not that expensive and they're cheaper today.
And there was a point of time during the 2017 ATH wherein the fees were too excruciating for the majority because if you won't pay for the higher fee, you'll get stuck for so long.
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