Take a look at their competitor. They flat out refuse to offer any refunds; they seem to be using pre order money for pretty much everything. BFL is the slightly lesser evil since they have, at the very least, honored every refund to date.
No I would rather a vendor tell me upfront you will NOT get a refund than to have a vendor like BFL put up bullshit ads that suggest they have a working product ready to ship right now.Honesty is better than bullshit, no matter how much sugar you put on a pile of shit...it still tastes like shit (can't speak from experience lol)
A) You would rather buy from a vendor that doesn't offer refunds? That's so stupid. BFL has given out every refund that has been requested.
B) Their adds never say that they have a product ready to ship. The add you screenshot on the BCT forums links to their website, which has a giant "PRE-ORDER NOW" orange button on their home page, and a bolded pre-order disclaimer on every single product description. I don't know how you want them to be more clear.
C) BFL is the liars and the sugar-coaters? How about Tom and his bASIC fiasco? Now that's a clear cut case of a liar. How about the Avalon team, not releasing tracking numbers at all, or the inaccurate power consumption numbers that were proven wrong by the first unit in a customer's hand. Who's sugar coating now?
D) You wanna talk about shit? Lets talk about that Avalon. Yay, they were the first ASIC to ship. All 4 (at my last count) of them after a solid month. Oh, you want to mine with a half dozen of them? Sorry, you're gonna need to rewire your house. You want to mind with a half dozen Singles? I got your solution right here.
Hey Dumbass,
The point is that if a vendor says they will not refund (implying they will ship and you cant cancel) at least you can definitively calculate your risk much better than with BFL. BFL could NOT refund all customers right now if all customers were to request a refund all at the same time. That is another way of saying BFL is a PONZI.
BFL on the other hand doesn't tell you when they WILL ship...oh wait...no they do tell you October, November, December, January, February...and keep lying over and over.
At least with a vendor saying they WILL NOT refund YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT>
With BFL you DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT...just more EXCUSES and BULLSHIT.
Go ahead and bow down to your BFL masters and hand them more pre-order money. Get your family to buy in as well. Sell your house, sell your car, sell everything if you trully believe BFL is legit.
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