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Topic: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING - page 17. (Read 44376 times)

DrG
legendary
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September 17, 2014, 03:05:02 AM
I believe in what Gavin said on his blog. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. While iim sure that there are some legit ones, i believe by far the majority are ponzis, the top of my list is pb mining.. They dont have any pictures, dont say where they mine, they magically have unlimited amounts of hashing power. My advice is to stay away from them, most likely you wont ROI...

Several of the cloud mining companies have posted in this thread and shown some proof of incorporation and documentation that they are a legitimate company.

The problem with pictures is that I could go to any warehouse that has some nice and neat miners and take a picture and say it's mine.  When they run off with your money the pictures will serve as a souvenir to the BTC that you lost.  Unless the "company" can prove it is an actual company by showing that it is registered with it's local/state governments you can't be sure it's all just a fancy website covering up a ponzi.

For those companies like PBMining who claim to have a lot of power all they would need to do to prove they are not a ponzi is show their block generation.  You can't fake 20PH/s of hashing power on the blockchain.  You can fake pics of 20PH/s.
hero member
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September 16, 2014, 04:25:15 PM
I believe in what Gavin said on his blog. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. While iim sure that there are some legit ones, i believe by far the majority are ponzis, the top of my list is pb mining.. They dont have any pictures, dont say where they mine, they magically have unlimited amounts of hashing power. My advice is to stay away from them, most likely you wont ROI...
legendary
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September 16, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
I think cloud mining is the way forward, No electricity costs, no worry about fire in your house Cool as I used to

since we started up http:/ /www.polminers.com we have had so many users say how much they prefer cloud mining and how much better ROI they get, Just look at the payout statistics (http:/ /polminers.com/pricing.php) and this is quite affordable for us.

Cloud mining is not the way forward because it is not a sustainable business model.

From your website:
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Pricing just isn't that far from ROI, But it can be if you know how to play the markets. This is because big companies decide they want to keep all the profit, We are in fact the opposite we want BTC to buy new equipment to help you make more BTC, We see this as a WIN/WIN situation

That explanation has scam written all over it. You might want to be less vague and appear less deceptive.
legendary
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September 16, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
What about hashnest for cloudmining? Good buy?
If you don't mind paying about 38% in fees, then sure it's a good buy... /sarcasm.

Think about it like this: it's the same as paying 1.35BTC for an Antminer S2 and then paying someone $98.58 a month to host it.

LOL
sr. member
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September 16, 2014, 02:52:39 PM
Experience in mining cloud are always bad

I have not had good experiences in mining in cloud ...
newbie
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September 16, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
I think cloud mining is the way forward, No electricity costs, no worry about fire in your house Cool as I used to

since we started up http://www.polminers.com we have had so many users say how much they prefer cloud mining and how much better ROI they get, Just look at the payout statistics (http://polminers.com/pricing.php) and this is quite affordable for us.
legendary
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September 16, 2014, 08:12:02 AM
It's probably not just about when you start mining, but what you mine.
And about what profit you get in the end, still there too low bitcoin economic activity, they are not get used as regular currency. So I prefer to calculate exchange rates of pair bitcoin-USD and after - withdraw, Hope soon bitcoins go after 900 USD, hope this graphs be useful http://mining-profit.com/bitcoin

At this stage, the 900 USD looks less viable every day. By the time it reach those levels again, my "cloud mining" profits would have been absorbed in maintenance fees.

We are all hoping it reach those levels, so we can show some ROI for our efforts.  Wink
newbie
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September 15, 2014, 01:57:45 AM
It's probably not just about when you start mining, but what you mine.
And about what profit you get in the end, still there too low bitcoin economic activity, they are not get used as regular currency. So I prefer to calculate exchange rates of pair bitcoin-USD and after - withdraw, Hope soon bitcoins go after 900 USD, hope this graphs be useful http://mining-profit.com/bitcoin
newbie
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September 11, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
It's probably not just about when you start mining, but what you mine.
legendary
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September 11, 2014, 10:16:00 AM
Thanks for the infomation, i've always been a bit sus on the whole cloud mining thing.
Someone i know has offered me a rockminer rbox 32gh/s asic for 0.0960 btc, is this a good offer do u think?
Not in it for the money just interested to try it for a few weeks or so.

If you start mining now, you have a good chance of breaking even. It depends a lot on the future difficulty.
legendary
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September 11, 2014, 06:04:52 AM
I belive the rbox only uses 40w but i could be corrected on this.
What do you run yours on and can you still use the computer for basic things while mining?
If i make half my money back then i'll be happy, just don't want to loose more than i put in.
I thought about cloud mining but after a bit of research i don't really trust it.
Im really just trying to learn everything i can about all aspects of bitcoin.
member
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September 11, 2014, 05:57:04 AM
Thanks for the infomation, i've always been a bit sus on the whole cloud mining thing.
Someone i know has offered me a rockminer rbox 32gh/s asic for 0.0960 btc, is this a good offer do u think?
Not in it for the money just interested to try it for a few weeks or so.

Just remember you need to power it too.

I bought mine for $65 a few months ago, but doubt you will see any ROI on it (I know I won't).
legendary
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https://www.bitcoin.com/
September 11, 2014, 05:41:05 AM
Thanks for the infomation, i've always been a bit sus on the whole cloud mining thing.
Someone i know has offered me a rockminer rbox 32gh/s asic for 0.0960 btc, is this a good offer do u think?
Not in it for the money just interested to try it for a few weeks or so.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
September 11, 2014, 03:05:04 AM
Well CEX/Ghash is killing me with the fees.

I try to buy GHs as soon as ENOUGH btc is availlable to trade, but I go in a negative balance, for a couple of hours, constantly, when they start mining Alt coins, instead of btc. They say, Alt coin mining has no fees, but I still find, btc maintenance fees, are subtracted, after a few hours of Alt coin mining. {So it is slipped in their, anyways}

I threw in a few coins, to test profitability and to gain knowledge on the subject matter. {And to see if ROI can be possible}

The CEX/Ghash "cloud mining" fees, are huge. {Profit margin for miners, are tiny}

I will continue this experiment, in the hope, that the rise in btc price, would equal my investment. {And I guess, that is what every miner are hoping for}

My best bet, would be to sell GHs at a higher price, than what I paid for it.  Sad

Unless you just bought the hashing power that's not going to happen.  Just sell all the hash today.  You can try to time it for the best price in the next 48 hours but if you look at the price for the last 10 months it is obvious it will head to 0.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
September 11, 2014, 02:57:41 AM
Well CEX/Ghash is killing me with the fees.

I try to buy GHs as soon as ENOUGH btc is availlable to trade, but I go in a negative balance, for a couple of hours, constantly, when they start mining Alt coins, instead of btc. They say, Alt coin mining has no fees, but I still find, btc maintenance fees, are subtracted, after a few hours of Alt coin mining. {So it is slipped in their, anyways}

I threw in a few coins, to test profitability and to gain knowledge on the subject matter. {And to see if ROI can be possible}

The CEX/Ghash "cloud mining" fees, are huge. {Profit margin for miners, are tiny}

I will continue this experiment, in the hope, that the rise in btc price, would equal my investment. {And I guess, that is what every miner are hoping for}

My best bet, would be to sell GHs at a higher price, than what I paid for it.  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
September 09, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
Yes you have to be careful with all the fees in cloud mining.
legendary
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Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
September 08, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
What about hashnest for cloudmining? Good buy?
If you don't mind paying about 38% in fees, then sure it's a good buy... /sarcasm.

Think about it like this: it's the same as paying 1.35BTC for an Antminer S2 and then paying someone $98.58 a month to host it.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 08, 2014, 08:02:53 AM
What about hashnest for cloudmining? Good buy?

Nah, not worth buying it...

I think it is. At $40? Nah. But you can buy a large amount for $28+ per Mh of the Primes easily. Prices are said to be raising again as they add more to the Primes ability.

Currently 1 Prime = 40Ghs if you decide to make it SHA mine I believe too.
sr. member
Activity: 255
Merit: 250
September 08, 2014, 06:55:27 AM
What about hashnest for cloudmining? Good buy?

Nah, not worth buying it...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 07, 2014, 08:15:58 AM
What about hashnest for cloudmining? Good buy?

I would wait until they sell out entirely before buying so that you can get out (by selling the GHs) to someone else if difficulty gets too much.
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