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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 09, 2024, 02:35:44 PM

All I have is the private keys and the amount of btc for each pk so this is how I know roughly how much $$$ is involved.

You may have a list of "Transaction ID" and their respective amounts instead of an ECDSA Private key.
Because it's rare to have a backup of a private key that's not in WIF these days, unless it's from the very old wallets.
In case those are TXIDs, the list is useless as a backup; it's more of a transaction history export.

But do not test if it's TXID yet until you've confirmed that it's empty if imported as private key.

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Quote from: cbskies on January 12, 2024, 04:50:58 PM

I have an old legacy paper wallet that i would like to ideally "sweep" onto a Passport device while keeping my private keys airgapped.

Is it in Wallet Import Format? Meaning, does it start with 5, K or L? If so, do what LoyceV has suggested above. You'll have to dedicate a spared computer for this operation, which will be used to safely create and sign your transaction without exposing the private key to an Internet connected machine.

If you have any questions, we're here to help you get this done.

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Hi Guys, Im brand new to the forum so greetings and salutations from a long time BTC believer.

I have an old legacy paper wallet that i would like to ideally "sweep" onto a Passport device while keeping my private keys airgapped. Would the above advice about the WIF and such be applicable to me in my situation as well?

If anyone can confirm that or direct me toward more information as far as the most secure method of activating this old paper wallet, preferably with the Passport as I like it's airgapped features.

Thanks!

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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 09, 2024, 05:09:17 PM

I didn't purchase the private keys so I am not out of pocket

How did you get them? Normally, when I create my own private key and fund it, I know my funds are there.

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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 09, 2024, 05:09:17 PM

Can i ask where you checked to see the addresses above were all empty?

There are many block explorers that can be used for checking transactions and balance of any address you want. Note that all bitcoin transactions are public.

Here are some good block explorers.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 09, 2024, 03:09:45 PM

Quote from: Trendy555 on January 09, 2024, 02:35:44 PM

I've emailed it to hosseinimr93 so hopefully we'll get some answers soon

Here are the addresses that can be derived from your private key. They are all empty.

Uncompressed legacy: 1KLT97kA8Jw7hSzFnVQBoHEgTH7LbrFZBM
Compressed legacy: 1DGdSzSj8anhcmsGcfRaYmV63U29TwFPGH
Nested segwit: 3FVDAHLkNhFxA459tt6E8j7SXWV8mfTekK
Native segwit: bc1qs6tze9e6shjq9hxtx3ye2wqyt7hkngrd38kksh

Did you purchase the private keys? If so, you got scammed.

OK thanks for checking

Good and bad news there i guess. Good that I wasn't doing anything wrong when trying to sweep and bad that there is nothing there.

I didn't purchase the private keys so I am not out of pocket

Can i ask where you checked to see the addresses above were all empty?

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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 09, 2024, 02:35:44 PM

I've emailed it to hosseinimr93 so hopefully we'll get some answers soon

Here are the addresses that can be derived from your private key. They are all empty.

Uncompressed legacy: 1KLT97kA8Jw7hSzFnVQBoHEgTH7LbrFZBM
Compressed legacy: 1DGdSzSj8anhcmsGcfRaYmV63U29TwFPGH
Nested segwit: 3FVDAHLkNhFxA459tt6E8j7SXWV8mfTekK
Native segwit: bc1qs6tze9e6shjq9hxtx3ye2wqyt7hkngrd38kksh

Did you purchase the private keys? If so, you got scammed.

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Hi all,

Thanks again for all your help.

All I have is the private keys and the amount of btc for each pk so this is how I know roughly how much $$$ is involved.

I've emailed it to hosseinimr93 so hopefully we'll get some answers soon

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 09, 2024, 10:44:23 AM

How does he know the balance without knowing the address?

This is my question, too.

I doubt OP has created the private keys by himself.
As you said, it's not common to have a 64 character private key and I don't think there's any wallet displaying private keys in such format.

Maybe, OP has purchased some worthless private keys and someone has scammed him.

Quote from: LoyceV on January 09, 2024, 10:44:23 AM

I wouldn't worry about Bitcointalk PMs being compromised for $10.

You are right, but we don't know where OP got the $10 from.
There's chance that's a private key of an old address that received $10 worth of bitcoin in the past and now it costs more.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 09, 2024, 08:39:05 AM

He doesn't know the bitcoin address at all.
He said he has multiple hex private keys. One of them is for an address with only $10 worth of bitcoin and he asked me if I can check it.

How does he know the balance without knowing the address?

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I warned him about messages not being encrypted and the risk involved in sending a private key via pm.
He said he doesn't mind losing the $10 and insisted on sending me the hex private key.

I wouldn't worry about Bitcointalk PMs being compromised for $10.

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I received a message from OP.

He doesn't know the bitcoin address at all.
He said he has multiple hex private keys. One of them is for an address with only $10 worth of bitcoin and he asked me if I can check it.

I warned him about messages not being encrypted and the risk involved in sending a private key via pm.
He said he doesn't mind losing the $10 and insisted on sending me the hex private key.

Trendy555, I just sent you my protonmail address.
You can create a protonmail account (if you don't have) and send me the private key. In this way, your message would be more secure.

I can't guarantee the security of your fund and note that with sending your private key online, you are accepting the risk of losing your money (if there's any, of course).

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 08, 2024, 03:44:34 PM

Quote from: Trendy555 on January 08, 2024, 03:09:51 PM

Then I've used Electrum and attempted to 'Sweep' the WIF (tried both compressed and uncompressed) into a standard wallet but I keep getting a message saying 'No Inputs Found'

The error message means that there is no fund at the address derived from the private key you are sweeping.

How did you create the 64 character private key? That's not a very common format.

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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 08, 2024, 03:09:51 PM

Then I've used Electrum and attempted to 'Sweep' the WIF (tried both compressed and uncompressed) into a standard wallet but I keep getting a message saying 'No Inputs Found'

The error message means that there is no fund at the address derived from the private key you are sweeping.

Do you know your bitcoin address or all you have is the hex private key?
Maybe, that the fund is at the segwit address.

If the fund is at the native segwit address, you should add "p2wpkh:" before your (compressed) private key and if the fund as the nested segwit address, you should add "p2wpkh-p2sh:" before your (compressed) private key.

Native segwit addresses start with bc1 and nested segwit addresses start with 3.

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Ok so slight progress but no cigar yet......

I've converted the private key to WIF format

Then I've used Electrum and attempted to 'Sweep' the WIF (tried both compressed and uncompressed) into a standard wallet but I keep getting a message saying 'No Inputs Found'

Any idea what the issue could be?

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Great thanks for all the advice, I'll give it a try today

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 06, 2024, 03:56:58 AM

For low fee, use the one that starts from K or L which is compressed.

It's not that OP can use each of compressed and uncompressed private keys.
If the fund has been sent to the compressed address, OP must use the compressed private key and if the fund has been sent to the uncompressed address, OP must use the uncompressed private key.

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Once you have the WIF private key, keep it offline and sign offline. There's no need to risk exposing your private keys to an online computer.

Quote from: LoyceV on February 19, 2021, 01:35:55 PM

Online:
Install Electrum on your PC.
Import your address to create a watch-only wallet.
Preview the transaction, Copy the unsigned transaction. Put it on a USB stick.

Offline and running without hard drive storage:
Get a Linux LIVE DVD. Use Knoppix or Tails for instance, or any other distribution that comes with Electrum pre-installed.
Unplug your internet cable. Close the curtains. Reboot your computer and start up from that DVD. Don't enter any wireless connection password. Keep it offline.
Start Electrum. Import your private key.
Copy your unsigned transaction from the USB stick, load it into Electrum.
CHECK the transaction in Electrum. Check the fees, check the amount, check all destination addresses (character by character).
If all is okay, sign the transaction. Copy it back to your USB stick.
Turn off the computer. That wipes the Live LINUX from memory and all traces are gone.

Online:
Use your normal online Electrum to (check again and) broadcast the transaction.

Bonus:
After moving all your Bitcoin, and once the transaction confirmed, check if you own Forkcoins.

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hosseinimr93 is correct. 64 character private keys are in hexadecimal and you will first need to convert the private key to wallet import format (WIF).

Run it offline for the safety of your coins.

The website: https://www.bitaddress.org/

To run it offline on an airgapped device: https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org/releases

There are two WIF: the compressed and the other one that is not compressed. The compressed starts from K or L while the other one starts from 5.

For low fee, use the one that starts from K or L which is compressed.

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A 64 character private key should be in hexadecimal format and include 0-9 and A-F characters.

First you should convert your hex private key to WIF. To do so, you can use bitaddress.org.
Just Note that it's not safe to enter your private key on an online website and it's recommended to run the offline version of bitaddress on an air-gapped device.

After deriving the WIF private key, you can import your private key to a wallet and spend your fund. A good option is electrum and note that it's recommended to run electrum on an airgapped device.
click here to read the guide on how to make a transaction offline.

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Quote from: Trendy555 on January 06, 2024, 03:28:38 AM

Hi all,

I’m after some advice if I may. I have some btc stored offline but the only info I have is the 64 digit private key. What’s the easiest way to get access to this btc so I can sell it?

Thanks in advance

You already have what you need to access your Bitcoin mate. All you have to do is to choose a reputable wallet a hardware, software, or mobile.( You can use electrum or blue wallet) Import your 64 digit private key into the wallet to access your Bitcoins. use the wallet to transfer to a trustworthy exchange and sell

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