Topic: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Season 16 Prediction and Info Thread (Read 570 times)

Actually watching his previous fights and the results of his previous games, most of them were a comeback from Soulkey and I surely noticed it but my Speculation was combined or the piece of the puzzle was solved when you explained it here so thanks for it, it was really late to make a sudden bet on him because I was new to the scene for the starcraft tournament and I don't have any idea about most of the players

But when you explained to me what kind of players most of them are and watched their matches I sure got an idea after this event I am now excited for the next event to happen, and for sure looking forward to Soulkey again,

Well I have played the beginning of the Starcraft campaign but I haven't finished it yet, as I was really busy with something but will eventually return to the saved files sure to finish my game and there are cut scenes so I think I am good and thank you for this and looking forward for the afreecatv starcraft league season 17 for sure,

^  Ah...  So you already know the results.  I could tell you my thougnt process now on why Soulkey was actually the way better pick than Mini and I should've seen it after watching the quarter finals and the semi finals.

I realized that when faced with adversity, Soulkey tends to rise on the occassion and overcome the challenges of going against a tough opponent.  He was 3 - 2 vs JyJ in a tough out and 4 - 3 vs Rush in another really touch turn out but won both.  We know what kind of player he is and he showed his desire to win.

With Mini we don't really know his mindset coming into the finals.  He breezed through Sharp at the quarters with 3 - 1 and went 4 - 0 in a very easy match vs Effort.  So coming into the finals we have no idea how he'll react when faced with adversity...  But unfortunately I found out when he was down 0 - 3. 

Anyway congrats on the win.  Til next time...  ASL 17 will be in a couple of months.

Thanks to this I will now know the story of each race and for sure this will be quick, I have managed to find the cheats and how to activate them inside the game it was a quick Google search as you have mentioned thanks to that,

Actually, I still haven't watched the latest game yet waiting for the English so I can understand, if you have a link it will be easy for me but I have bet on this game and it was really Soulkey winning this game for sure he was really dominant in this game Soulkey winning 3 games then Mini on the 4th game retaliates but Soulkey managed to notice what Mini was plotting somehow and winning in the final game, well I haven't watched the game yet, but see the game results but surely I likely want to see the game for sure as Soulkey was really dominant,

Here is my winning bet

^  Lol.  Yup there are cheat codes but just for single player mode...  It's easy find them online.    So yeah, it makes it easier to play through the campaign if all you wanna do is watch the cut scenes and know the back story.

Anyway did you watch the final match?  It was today around 2:00pm KST.  I won't spoil the details but there isn't really anything to spoil.    I won't tell you the winner tho unless you want me to.

I'll give my thoughts when you're done watching it.

There are cheat codes for this game? For real I didn't know about it my friends were playing this and for sure they didn't use cheats or they never told me about these things but if I had known about these things maybe I would been playing it for sure just because I love cheats,

I have searched for the cheat codes but how can I use them, I am searching the settings and I can not see some cheats in it, sorry I surely don't know about these things for sure as I have said this is the 1st time for me playing Starcraft well officially playing it, just watching my friends played this, for sure I want to try this cheats on the game,

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So here is my bet for the last match for the AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 and my bet is for Soulkey I have seen him get back from a 2-win streak against his opponent for sure this is the last game for this tournament and for sure it is my 1st time seeing the bookies on stake,

^  You could use cheat codes for single player mode and the campaigns.    You'll just be playing it for the cut scenes anyway and to know the back story.  They're pretty good...  Learning to the strats and learning how to play well will only be acheived by playing lots of hours in multi player mode. 

But yeah..  And for the final match of ASL 16, it's a coin flip.  Mini is lined at 1.90 and Soulkey is at 1.80.  I lean mini but seeing how Soulkey played on through and got the win vs Rush from behind, dunno...  :/

It surely has Cut Scenes so it is very OK Actually, the Campaigns are pretty much hard for me but I am slowly keeping up with it it was really hard to play for sure reading all unit skills is great and it is really complex because it is also hard to defend on air units for sure but even though I keep on losing the game I am still enjoying it, well then I like about the Unique units of the Zerg was the Queen it was really a superior in the Air and unique ability of infestation where the Queen injects parasites to organic enemies and take control of opponents Command Center that is why I really like this one,

For sure we still have 2 days to witness the Starcraft tournament the game between Soulkey against Mini for sure will definitely be one epic match and just like the other game I really want to see it, I am really curious about what they are doing in the beginning of the game, so for sure I really want to watch all of it with a good announcer,

SC2?  I'd say nope if you have played a lot of SC/BW.  Dunno man but SC2 just doesn't compare with the original in terms of game play, game mechanics, meta and the psychological aspect of going 1v1 with somebody.  And a lot of the game mechanics stuff that SC/BW has was dumbed down in SC2.  Any n00b could play SC2.  SC/BW needs a decent degree of skill to play properly.  That's just imho.


Does your copy include the cut scenes for the campaigns?  Play the campaigns!  Blizzard did a really good job with those cut scenes.

I surely think that I have downloaded the Broodwars Expansion and it is good for sure but yeah playing the game for almost a week now if I am not mistaken, I lost many Computer fights versus Terran, and actually, I am still training with the Zerg Colony and still Learning some things actually I think I got the portable installation of the game here are the Screen Shots of the Starcraft game that I have downloaded,



Actually, I am really challenged with this game, and more than what I know in Battle Realms this is unique and has a lot of different learning for sure because I thought just because I have played Battle Realms before I would eventually master this game but there was a very difficult factor that wasn't on the Battle Realms game


Welcome darkangel11, actually, I was also shocked like you that the old Starcraft game was still alive and getting a tournament of its own it was really a great game if it is still alive and has a community like this that still Supports it even though there are now a Starcraft 2 available for them to be played but the Starcraft 1 is still  this alive and right now I think the Final game for the Tournament AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 will be October 15, 2023 - 14:00 PHT Soulkey VS Mini,

I'd say there is - SC2.

I haven't followed the SC1 scene since I finished high school. Back in the day we'd play on LAN with friends and my first ever PvP experience was playing on a 2 PC LAN setup with a friend.
We had to move the computer from one house to the other and then another friend saw us playing and wanted to join, so we had to carry another computer. It wasn't easy since we all had CRT monitors and these things were bulky.

I didn't know the scene was still active. Last time I heard about it the news said Korean TV is no longer going to transmit it and Artosis came back to the US because RTS popularity was declining fast and being taken over by MOBA.

SC is probably the most difficult online game to play on a competitive level. You have to be a total no life with very fast hands to be good in this game.  

^  I'm not sure if the patches are updated in the original version of SC/BW but I'm sure that there are no differences between the original and remastered except for the graphics.  And if ever the patches in the original are not up to date, there are only minor differences.  I don't even think they changed anything much like spell damage, attack damage and the like.  That's usually what the devs change to make the game more balanced.

As for installing the game in the original, always install the expansion aka Broodwar.  No one plays vanilla Starcraft since the expansion came out.  It's always with Broodwar on.  Do the same with remastered.

For sure that would be a great game if I could compete with other players online, but for now, I am still familiarizing myself with the unit ability and what to build with the Zerg to make the offense faster and the defense smoother for sure, but I am surely going there, and by the way I have downloaded Broodwars version what is the difference with the Expansion and the remastered version is there a additional map or units with those patches? or they don't have any difference with the Broodwars version, because I will likely just go on with the Broodwars version any suggestions about this?

Sure If there were another rematch between Rush and Soulkey I really think that Rush really needs time to develop a plan to defeat Soulkey for sure but if there likely another game for the two may be a conclusion but the match was pretty close, but for sure I am now excited for the Mini VS Soulkey,

^  Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online.  There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.  I tried some games after SC back in the day and I couldn't say that they gave me the same rush as SC did.

And yup, not really sure what happened with Rush except that when he was rushed early by Soulkey, he wasn't able to hold the game enough to give him time to make enough units vs Soulkey's next wave of attacks.  Would've loved a TvP final with Rush and Mini. 

You also brought me to try out the game as I was only watching my friends back then after school going in and renting a PC from the shop then just watching them play Starcraft of Warcraft back then I pretty much just had the idea of the game but the feel into playing it this is really my 1st time playing this, so Thank you I just didn't get the urge in playing the game because it was really old, but for sure Old games are gold, as the saying goes, for sure I was really wrong for not trying it out sooner and I am surely learning new Strategies while watching this videos you provided so thanks to that

While in the Tournament I was shocked to see Soulkey defeat Rush I almost thick that Rush could win against him because he got it 2 times in a row 1st but Soulkey in his later games is not really pressured at all but keeps on getting into it more confident and more stronger for sure, and so we will be seeing a finals for Mini VS Soulkey

^  Watch this one with Artosis and Tasteless in the commentary booth.  They're the original commentators of the show and they give the best English commentary in the ASL bar none.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match1 Rush vs SoulKey (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIALkFIzjHw

And here's the other semi final with Mini vs Effort.  Nothing to spoil as it wasn't too exciting.  Lol.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match2 Mini vs effOrt (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608lhcWH52I

And sure man...  I like getting stuff up I'm interested in and make bets at here in BCT.  It's fun trying to get people into StarCraft betting or just get people to watch the matches.  It's a really good game which the SC tourney scene should be bigger than how it is now tbh.

Early lines for the finals on October 15 are up at Stake.  Mini at 1.80 and Soulkey at 1.90.  Leaning Mini but after seeing what Soulkey did to Rush I don't know...

Nope, I haven't watched it yet, and Yup! I am waiting for the Commentaries so I can watch it in English, Thanks your providing the link for me for sure I am learning so much when it comes to StarCraft for sure and really enjoying it at the same time, actually it was great if you were working at something and really enjoying it at the same time that is pretty much awesome for sure

It is the latest video of Rush VS Soulkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2n5vRey49w

Sure Soulkey is a beast on that map he was really well aware of the Maps, but surely Rush has closed the game it was not enough for Rush and it is great that many have predicted that the game will be a 3 - 4 win for soul key and it was really an accurate prediction for sure as the game ended in 3 - 4 win for Soulkey for sure, and the Maps has a large effect on the game as Rush is picking the 1st map then Soulkey's next and up to Set 7 picks it really was a great exchange but Soulkey manage to defeated the Terran of Rush with his Zerg for sure,

^  Did you watch the semi final match vs Rush vs Soulkey?  I'm not gonna spoil it to you if you haven't.  But man!  What a greeaaat match up between these two.  Not one was giving up and had to do what they needed to do to win a match and get to the next match.  It was really good.

And if I were you, I'd wait for the commnentaries by Artosis and Tasteless.  It's really worth to wait for a couple of days.  I will post it here once it's up...  Man what a good match.

I hope the next match up with Mini and Effort tomorrow is just as good.  I got Mini.

WOW! Thanks for telling me about the game replays for sure it will be helpful indeed, and nice one, I was really enjoying using the Zerg more but eventually switching to Terran at times but mostly using the Zerg I like how I aggressively attack the mines of other players with the Zerglings it was a fast pace fight but surely I want using Hydralis more with the Zerg for sure that is the most powerful unit in this race well because Hydralis can destroy both air and land unit and a swarm of Hydralis means you eventually won the game

And I totally missed the games for the Sharp vs Mini, and the EffOrt vs Action as well for sure Mini with the Protoss race has won against the Sharp's Terran race units, and with the EffOrt's Zerg race with Action's Zerg race sure EffOrt's using Zerg was quite unique and winning the game with a 3 - 0 score for sure I want to watch the Zerg VS Zerg fight if the video is available,

Semi-Finals are starting and it is between Rush vs Soulkey and Mini vs EffOrt for the date of October 4, and 5 the Semi-Finals will be a great watch for sure if I could guess who's going to face in the finals I think it will be Rush and the EffOrt just a wild guess on who's going to face in the finals on this season for sure this is just a guess but for sure I need to see their strategies for the games,

The lines for Mini vs Effort is up at Stake with Effort as the slight favorite which is surprising imho.  Mini is a tad better SC player.

Oh and as for Rush vs Soulkey, just a little tip.  If you're betting on Rush there's a slightly better line at Rollbit.    Small difference with Stake so I don't think it could be considered a stale line.  Small bet should be safe from getting cancelled.

Here are the rest of the vids in the quarter finals...

ASL S16 RO.8 Match2 SoulKey vs JyJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkwJ_OHJBzU

ASL S16 RO.8 Match3 Sharp vs Mini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szEuJuwWCAw

ASL S15 RO.8 Match4 effOrt vs Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nqOJlWGXpI

^  Another way to learn a lot faster is to download saved game replays.  Not sure where to download these days but they shouldn't be too hard to find.  You guys are lucky there's replay feature.  Before people had to scour the internet to find strategy guides, VOD's and find other people to talk about SC/BW.  Now it's a lot easier.

Anyway here's the updated bracket with all of the quarter finals over and done with.  I think Rush and Mini go through..  Eerrr or hopefully go through. I want a Mini vs Rush final.  Lol.  



And the market for Rush vs Soulkey is up at Stake with both at dead evens.  :/

https://stake.com/sports/starcraft-1/international-14/asl-season-16

I wonder how Mini and Effort's lines will look.  I think they'll prolly give it around 1.50 - 1.60 for Mini.