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Quote from: Chikito on March 22, 2020, 03:34:48 AM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 14, 2020, 03:05:46 PM

Yes. Don't blame the government of Malawi, they must have a strong reason to allow children in gambling. ~

I know the reason because the baby does not know the meaning of money.
See Malawi : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#Africa

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That is because the younger children (babies) do not know the meaning of money.

And Afganistan, they allowed every age who want to play online gambling, No limited.
See Afganistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#Asia

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Casinos and lottery are forbidden, BUT online gambling is legal at any age

Extreme country than Malawi I thing.

I doubt those legal age are really enforced that much in many countries. My first public gambling (prefer to call it betting) was at a very young age in a church compound (probably during something called bazaar or something) yet it was allowed back then. The games were appropriate for kids though and probably traditional.
Many of us likely bet as kids especially in our homes. I guess the problem is indulgence, which is gambling, if it doesn't benefit the kids positively. Kids spending lots of time (without spending money) on nonbeneficial games could be termed as gambling aswell.

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Quote from: robelneo on March 22, 2020, 09:58:16 AM

I could not think of any other way but KYC to verify if the one joining a gambling site is legit and of age, people want anonymity, and because the competition is very high in the online gambling sector they do away with KYC so, in reality, we'll never know if the one joining is of age and not a child who wants to gamble his allowance.

Yeah! they should also implement something like KYC to prevent some underage to play even though they did not even reach the age of puberty yet. The case here is, they might become addicted and do some crazy things with those addictions blindly. unlike those 18+ people, kids are more prone to some extreme because most of them don't know how the outside world works. most of them don't know how hard to earn those single buck they often lose in gambling.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on March 22, 2020, 09:15:48 AM

Knowing about the age restriction about gambling, and being applicable to online gambling as well. Is it really effective to limit the players? Because from my experience playing through different gambling sites, I don't see any that most of there are strict. They are just allowing you to create account and you can even fake your credentials to enter age above the limitation. There are some sites that don't really have anything to ask their players, and will allow you to directly play after your email has been verified. Yes, you have set your age in your email, but what if you exceed your age in your email as well?

That means, players of any age has really no restriction in gambling because of the weak regulation. Though, I don't like KYC to be a mandatory to every gambling sites. Maybe these sites could just improve or develop a system to detect if the players are really in legal age to play.

I could not think of any other way but KYC to verify if the one joining a gambling site is legit and of age, people want anonymity, and because the competition is very high in the online gambling sector they do away with KYC so, in reality, we'll never know if the one joining is of age and not a child who wants to gamble his allowance.

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Knowing about the age restriction about gambling, and being applicable to online gambling as well. Is it really effective to limit the players? Because from my experience playing through different gambling sites, I don't see any that most of there are strict. They are just allowing you to create account and you can even fake your credentials to enter age above the limitation. There are some sites that don't really have anything to ask their players, and will allow you to directly play after your email has been verified. Yes, you have set your age in your email, but what if you exceed your age in your email as well?

That means, players of any age has really no restriction in gambling because of the weak regulation. Though, I don't like KYC to be a mandatory to every gambling sites. Maybe these sites could just improve or develop a system to detect if the players are really in legal age to play.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 14, 2020, 03:05:46 PM

Yes. Don't blame the government of Malawi, they must have a strong reason to allow children in gambling. ~

I know the reason because the baby does not know the meaning of money.
See Malawi : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#Africa

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That is because the younger children (babies) do not know the meaning of money.

And Afganistan, they allowed every age who want to play online gambling, No limited.
See Afganistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#Asia

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Casinos and lottery are forbidden, BUT online gambling is legal at any age

Extreme country than Malawi I thing.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 11, 2020, 10:33:44 AM

each country has their own reserve about how to treat gambling so we really don't know whats their input for allowing younger age but for sure they have reason for this,

Yes. Don't blame the government of Malawi, they must have a strong reason to allow children in gambling. As long as we don't know what the reason is, never blame or judge the government of Malawi. Let's try to have a wise comment or opinion, guys.

Quote from: peter0425 on March 12, 2020, 07:17:23 AM

but i am still hoping this will change to at least 18 years old and up.

Of course, it is changeable. You are right if 18 years old seems more appropriate for the minimum age. I think Malawi's government must consider it to make a further decision.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on March 11, 2020, 03:11:33 AM

I think that age restriction should be on an average on 20 years old.
My point is that people should have a decent living and making an amount of money before they are pushed - for any reason - into gambling. This makes their hobby healthy and they risk their own money instead of borrowing for gambling.

each country has their own reserve about how to treat gambling so we really don't know whats their input for allowing younger age but for sure they have reason for this,maybe it is their ancestral whos gives them these rules?we don't really know but for us who is not comfortable on their rules can only questioned but cannot do anything to change their rules.

rules are being adapt from the elders or ancestors but as time goes by they also do modification . its normal for some country to have a strange rule or celebration and one of it could be gambling at a verry young age . on ours i think the limit here is 18 and above but i did started gambling when i was verry little . we only hide at close places because police are patrolling but they are only hunting for adult agamblers because there is also a law here that underage people should not be jailed or punished by higher authority

but i think modification to 5 years old?seems not appropriate but yeah this is their rules and we must respect also it happens that we have different countries and different rules .

but i am still hoping this will change to at least 18 years old and up.

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I didn't know that 5 year children as no restriction in gambling but it should be allowed at least 12-14 years above would be good ,in my country below 18 are not allowed to do gambling

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Quote from: Naida_BR on March 12, 2020, 03:22:12 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on March 09, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

There's a lot of ranting in this thread about the age restriction in Malawi, but have you guys thought of where a 5 year old kid can get money for gambling, in the first place? Right, nowhere, nowhere except from an adult person, a parent, most likely.

So it's not like little kids are encouraged to gamble in Malawi, rather it's their parents are allowed to bring kids to a casino starting from the age of five.

LOL, how many money can make a 5 year old kid in Malawi?
Has it have the reasonable mind to spend it wisely and get money from gambling activity? Letting a 5 yo kid gambling will create him an experience that would be very difficult to overcome in the future.

Exposing at this very young age is really entertaining those kids to start at the very early stage of their minds, it will be developed all along knowing that the parents are okay with this kind of settings.
Don't have any idea from how they treated gambling from their country and how responsible those parents who are allowing or bringing their kids inside the casino.

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Quote from: Betwrong on March 09, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

There's a lot of ranting in this thread about the age restriction in Malawi, but have you guys thought of where a 5 year old kid can get money for gambling, in the first place? Right, nowhere, nowhere except from an adult person, a parent, most likely.

So it's not like little kids are encouraged to gamble in Malawi, rather it's their parents are allowed to bring kids to a casino starting from the age of five.

LOL, how many money can make a 5 year old kid in Malawi?
Has it have the reasonable mind to spend it wisely and get money from gambling activity? Letting a 5 yo kid gambling will create him an experience that would be very difficult to overcome in the future.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 11, 2020, 03:55:58 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on March 11, 2020, 10:33:44 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on March 11, 2020, 03:11:33 AM

I think that age restriction should be on an average on 20 years old.
My point is that people should have a decent living and making an amount of money before they are pushed - for any reason - into gambling. This makes their hobby healthy and they risk their own money instead of borrowing for gambling.

each country has their own reserve about how to treat gambling so we really don't know whats their input for allowing younger age but for sure they have reason for this,maybe it is their ancestral whos gives them these rules?we don't really know but for us who is not comfortable on their rules can only questioned but cannot do anything to change their rules.

rules are being adapt from the elders or ancestors but as time goes by they also do modification . its normal for some country to have a strange rule or celebration and one of it could be gambling at a verry young age . on ours i think the limit here is 18 and above but i did started gambling when i was verry little . we only hide at close places because police are patrolling but they are only hunting for adult agamblers because there is also a law here that underage people should not be jailed or punished by higher authority

Where ever money is involved age restriction should be implemented. The legal age for gambling in most countries is 18, as by that time an individual does understand the value of money. I do not yet understand what Malawi has 5 years as the minimum age for gambling.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 11, 2020, 10:33:44 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on March 11, 2020, 03:11:33 AM

I think that age restriction should be on an average on 20 years old.
My point is that people should have a decent living and making an amount of money before they are pushed - for any reason - into gambling. This makes their hobby healthy and they risk their own money instead of borrowing for gambling.

each country has their own reserve about how to treat gambling so we really don't know whats their input for allowing younger age but for sure they have reason for this,maybe it is their ancestral whos gives them these rules?we don't really know but for us who is not comfortable on their rules can only questioned but cannot do anything to change their rules.

rules are being adapt from the elders or ancestors but as time goes by they also do modification . its normal for some country to have a strange rule or celebration and one of it could be gambling at a verry young age . on ours i think the limit here is 18 and above but i did started gambling when i was verry little . we only hide at close places because police are patrolling but they are only hunting for adult agamblers because there is also a law here that underage people should not be jailed or punished by higher authority

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Quote from: Naida_BR on March 11, 2020, 03:11:33 AM

I think that age restriction should be on an average on 20 years old.
My point is that people should have a decent living and making an amount of money before they are pushed - for any reason - into gambling. This makes their hobby healthy and they risk their own money instead of borrowing for gambling.

each country has their own reserve about how to treat gambling so we really don't know whats their input for allowing younger age but for sure they have reason for this,maybe it is their ancestral whos gives them these rules?we don't really know but for us who is not comfortable on their rules can only questioned but cannot do anything to change their rules.

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I think the idea that there is "none" means that legality is not based on age and that is understandable, it doesn't say that 18 year olds can play or 16 year olds can play or anything like that and it basically makes sure that there is no legal age thing going on and it is basic common sense. Just to give an example in my nation it is 18+ as well but when it comes down to real life I was capable of gambling, hell buying cigarattes was not allowed as well yet I started smoking at 16, so that means practice is different than reality.

So the problem between "none" and 5 is the simple fact that when you are "none" you are telling people "there is obviously an age when it is too young but we will let you decide that and return customers if they are young and let you decide that age yourself for each individual case" but when you say 5 you are basically telling them 6 years old is fine and can gamble however they want to.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 10, 2020, 10:20:05 PM

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Quote from: Betwrong on March 09, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

So it's not like little kids are encouraged to gamble in Malawi, rather it's their parents are allowed to bring kids to a casino starting from the age of five.

However, it is clearly stated in Wikipedia "Gambling age". It means a minimum age required to play gambling. What do you think about that, mate?

As you may have noticed, there's "None" in the "Minimum age" column opposite some countries, like here, for example:

which means that there's no age restriction there at all. And I don't understand why are people outraged by Malawi's law, while there are countries where kids below 5 years age are permitted in casinos.

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I think that age restriction should be on an average on 20 years old.
My point is that people should have a decent living and making an amount of money before they are pushed - for any reason - into gambling. This makes their hobby healthy and they risk their own money instead of borrowing for gambling.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on March 09, 2020, 05:02:56 AM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 04, 2020, 07:38:08 AM

Age 5: Malawi (Casino)

is this true?does a country allowed children in Casinos?

Yes, it is true. Have you checked the detail information on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#cite_note-27? Or scroll up to see previous comments about it?

Quote from: Betwrong on March 09, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

So it's not like little kids are encouraged to gamble in Malawi, rather it's their parents are allowed to bring kids to a casino starting from the age of five.

However, it is clearly stated in Wikipedia "Gambling age". It means a minimum age required to play gambling. What do you think about that, mate?

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There's a lot of ranting in this thread about the age restriction in Malawi, but have you guys thought of where a 5 year old kid can get money for gambling, in the first place? Right, nowhere, nowhere except from an adult person, a parent, most likely.

So it's not like little kids are encouraged to gamble in Malawi, rather it's their parents are allowed to bring kids to a casino starting from the age of five.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 08, 2020, 06:12:38 PM

Quote from: South Park on March 08, 2020, 10:31:27 AM

so it seems the best thing we can do is to warn them about the dangers of gambling at such an early age and hope they listen to you and do not gamble until they are old enough to understand what they are doing.

Giving them a warning is fine but that's where the kid's curiosity about what's gambling is all about starts.

If I'm a kid, a 6 or 7-year-old boy, always seeing an active gambling community around, I will ask myself, why we kids aren't allowed to play gambling by our parents or seniors even it was allowed on our Law. I saw other kids doing gambling but they aren't stopping. Gambling operators will allow these kids to gamble since it's legal and it's not their responsibility to stop these kids if they really like to play.

So I'm thinking, why not just turned this kid's gambling activity into something resourceful. Let them gamble instead and help them enhanced how to analyze things in a certain situation while doing gambling.

Its inevitable or cant really be stopped and as said just let them be if they do force out because as a parent we cant monitor our child 24/7 in our eyesight knowing that accessibility is high.
Operators wont surely care yet they do know that its out of their scope and also this is business, the more the merrier as long it is legal and allowed then its non of their business if they would
allow those young minds.Its sad to look at that some places do allow a very low age on playing on a casino which isnt really that right.We know the risk and we know on how young minds cant
handle out emotions when it comes to gambling specially on losing money and the addiction that it gives.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 04, 2020, 07:38:08 AM

Have you known that there is an age restriction in gambling? But it is varied among the countries in the world. I have just checked in wikipedia that commonly someone can play gambling starting from the age of 15/16/18/19/20/21 years. It depends on where he lives, every country may have different regulation related to the age restriction. Below I classify some countries based on the age restriction:

Age 5: Malawi (Casino)

is this true?does a country allowed children in Casinos?

Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 04, 2020, 07:38:08 AM

Age 21: Belgium, Estonia (Casino), Armenia, India, Lebanon, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines (casino), Singapore, Taiwan, Vietnam, Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, Namibia, Niger (casino), Bahamas, Saint Kitts and Nevis, US Virgin Islands (casino), USA, Macau

this is the perfect age for me to let one going on gambling legally,because i think 21 is the tender age for every people to learn His maturity and making good decision for life,because younger can be desperate and possessive to act specially in this gambling risk.

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